RPGM Completed Monster Girl Quest: Paradox [Part 3 v3.01] [Torotoro Resistance]

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Experimantal

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I'm confused, is the demo download including part 1 and 2 ? (As in one single big game) or is it just the demo with CG gallery unlocked ?

I currently got version 2.41 on my PC (the one before the demo release), should I simply wait for part 3 translation before redownloading ? It feels surreal that part 3 is out
 

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These types of game that have overinflated numbers on them tends to have no proper balance especially when you reach mid to end game. Oftentimes those games demand your team to rely more on stats number that promote damage per screenshot rather than team and skill synergy where the fun of discovering diverse type of meta and niche gameplay are at.

The first few to mid stages are the most fun since they don't require too much grinding and there's a certain degree of strategies required to pass those stages, like in Disgaea games. But once you reach that stage where every ennemies' stats goes into the billions and you're now required to grind your life to hell, that's where the fun begins to wither.

I remember that the time I stopped playing this game was always when I had to grind for hours because some bosses requires more stats, or cheese strat than actual substantial strategy. I'm hoping that the cheat will at least alleviate the need to grind.

The endgame actually doesn't require any grinding at all. Most of your strength is coming from gems and equipment, which you can get "good enough" without really needing any grinding.

Bring 2 characters. On 1 character, put your strongest damage boosting gems, and give them skills for buffing their stats while at low health, and ignore their defensive stats (only use skills that entirely negate damage). On the other character (preferably a character with the giant class), give them every +HP boosting gem and entirely ignore damage, and get them the early game medicine skill that resurrects someone with 20% HP (and also pick up the giant skill that gives them +100% health and +50% defense at the cost of always moving last), and give them immunity to status effects/instant KOs. The damage dealer should have a skill that always moves first, and then you can just attack with them and resurrect them at 20% health with your invulnerable character every turn (the 20% resurrect keeps them with their crisis buffs as long as their max HP isn't a multiple of 5).

With those 2 characters you can beat basically everything in the game and you don't need anything particularly grindy to pull it off - you don't really even need your other characters to contribute (although it's nice bringing Lucifina for daystar and the ability that has a 20% chance of triggering daystar whenever attacked). There are a small handful of fights that are bothersome for this strategy when the enemy has attacks with priority or they have an ability that removes status invulnerabilities, but those fights can generally either be won in 1 turn as long as your DPS has strong enough equipment or they can't actually kill your tank and you can just try over and over again until your skills block all of their attacks and you get some hits in.

There are a ton of things that can be done to optimize this.. but honestly, even with the minimalist version you can get through the game on paradox difficulty. Bear in mind that every single gem stacks multiplicatively - if you bring 12 different gems that each buff someone's health by 40% for instance (which is *not* maxed out for the record), then you are multiplying their health by ~56.7x, and likewise for damage gems
 
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How in the world can you beat Beelzebub in the Chaos Third route?
I was heading to Central Tatarus... Beelzebub appears and one shots me every time, even with 245.000 HP... idk what to do.
The central tartarus in the 3rd route is the final dungeon. You are really not meant to be going there if you think that 245000 is a lot of health - you should have basically everything finished by the time you're going there, and by then you'll have fought things way stronger than the beelzebub.
 
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no actual human translation but an Mtool translation that give you and "ok" translation until the end of the game. Some people use different machine translation with better working but most of them are better because you need to have the paid version.
What programs do they use that are better than mtool? If you can help me...
 
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Do anyone know how to deal with enemy that can bypass psycho armor my main DPS always death on first turn.
 

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Could someone give me a rough estimate of how much of the part 3 game is in the demo?

Like is the demo half the game, is it 10% of the game, ect.
 

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I heard that you can buy the games on dlsite with dlpoints. it´s a method for those who don´t live in japan.

First .. you need a dlsite account

then if you created an account, go to your profile

Buy the points then from "For Books" and there you only need a "shop pay" account and then you can buy it with visa or something like that.

I hope this helps.
got to love hoop jumping that credit card companies make us go through. Get points from a book site that is connected to a different site just to pay for stuff we want just because they don't want to be associated with stuff that may make them look bad.
 
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Ximzo

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What programs do they use that are better than mtool? If you can help me...
Yes, i would like to know too
Mtool is always crashing for me with theses errors :

"Exception : TypeError
nil can't be coerced into Fixnum"

or

"Exception : ArgumentError
comparison of Fixnum with nil failed"
 

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For those wondering how viable it is to just go through part 3 with MTool machine translating for you, my honest advice is just don't.

For those who are coming at this from wanting to experience Part 3's gameplay, this will be a sisyphean trial of endless frustration as Part 3 not only hyper inflates enemy stats, but also makes changes in combat that you'll have to adjust to as well. Throw in MTool on top of that, and you'll run into crashes more often than a newly released Bethesda game, fucking you over in battles and resetting your progress constantly. By the time you've rage quit Part 3 from that experience, you'll be wishing the game had a Quicksave hotkey for all the time spent constantly saving your progress to lose as little time between crashes as possible. It's a RPGMaker game, not exactly the cutting edge of innovative gameplay. The only thing keeping me sane between attempts at further progressing in Part 3 is brief visits to Factorio and Starsector to bleed away the frustrating limitations of RPGMaker turn-based combat.

If you want to experience Part 3 for the story through MTool, my advice would be to just ask in spoiler tags on here for any story elements you're curious about. Multiple people here have already bum-rushed through Part 3, either through sheer perseverance through the crashes or sheer luck from not getting as many as I have. If you absolutely have to play the game yourself and experience the gist of the story that way, my advice is thus: Cheat. Set the difficulty as low as possible, and cheat like you're playing Russian Roulette with all the chambers loaded. And know that even while doing so, playing through this will still feel like a kick in the dick, because you will get stuck, get lost, lose progress, lose time and lose sanity.
Bro, literally unless you bought it original, you most likely got the game from this page and obviously since the thread hasn't been updated on the latest page, since even the mods don't know whether to update it or not because it's not "really" translated, you had to be on the lookout and reading at least the most recent pages, so if you have problems with Mtool to be able to play, simply use ITH + Translation aggregator (I use that combo and I've had 0 problems and I'm already on the third route) or any of the other methods or options that have been shared.

And bro, I share your feeling that this game got more bloated than Naruto filler in part 3, but also as a response to this, Torotoro put in the secret stones, which you have to use and even make any character you have, regardless of whether you ever made Labyrinth or not, a monster with stats from hell and if you still don't want to have to farm stones or their materials to create them, simply use cheese, in the translations part, open the weapons, armor and notepad files simply write in Japanese in the search option the names of the characters you use (if they are main characters) and hit search, it will take you directly to the name and ID of the most broken weapons before Labyrinth that you can have in the game and with that, even if you put bad stones in the 3 slots, you don't suffer as much even in paradox difficulty.

Or, if you don't want so much trouble, simply if you have touched the third route already, then you´ll have obtained large medallions, with having 3 of them the doors of the world will open, since if you go to the castle of medals, with the king (I don't know what the queen gives or if she gives items, I haven't discovered where she is yet) you get a universal set for any character that is the third best in the base game without items in the labyrinth, but of course that set each piece is worth many medals, what you would simply have to do is download cheat engine, open it, link the game, type without touching anything in the options 3 * 2 + 1, hit search, exchange a candy that is worth 1 medal, change 3 * 2 + 1 for 2 * 2 + 1 and hit next scan, do the above again until you are in 1 * 2 + 1, then in the search list there will only be one result, double click or drag it down in the white box that is there, then left click and in the options that come out, click on change to hexadecimal and finally, from the sequence of numbers that it changes to, leave the last 2 numbers on the right untouched and after these, right-click on them and an editing box will appear, delete the 2 zeros that are before the last 2 and write AA and click on ok, finally just check the box for the process that is there and that's it, you can buy anything from this store, which apart from the set I would recommend that you buy the MP and SP reduction stones, so that you can make chains easier.

And that process you can use for anything in the game, even if you only have a single object of a type, although for that process it is a little different, for this you simply apply the fundamentals of the above, but in the maid of the pocket castle, depending on what you want to increase, when you give it the option to store objects, choose the type and in the list that comes out of objects that you have find the object that you want to increase, to this only object you pass it to save and without leaving the menu and with the cheat engine you write 1 * 2 + 1 and you press search, then you return your object to your possession and without leaving the menu ever, in cheat engine you change to 0 * 2 + 1 and you press next, you do again the same thing as before passing the object and write 1 * 2 + 1 and you repeat everything until finally you have a single result and important, the only object that you have of that type was stored with the maid, when that is the case do the same thing as before to lower it to the white box, see it with hexadecimal and edit it with AA and that's it, when you want to move the maid's items to your inventory you'll see that she has an infinite number of them and you can simply take as many as you want, and another option is to use the original process I mentioned, apply it with the seeds to the characters you want, use an auto-keyboard and let it increase the stats as much as you want.

Anyway, I hope I've been able to help a little all those who arrive and only see walls in this current final part (since who knows what they'll do if they really do the fourth route in a DLC) and are using either the Raw 3.01 game (recommended, since using the version with translation drives automatic translators a little crazy) or don't want to touch anything in the version with translation for fear of ruining something.

How in the world can you beat Beelzebub in the Chaos Third route?
I was heading to Central Tatarus... Beelzebub appears and one shots me every time, even with 245.000 HP... idk what to do.
Bro, if you didn't read the intro of the third route well, from there they make it clear that Torotoro was inspired by the most recent Zeldas and you can go wherever you want, even to the final boss from minute 1 but of course, being unable to do so and in fact, if you do, getting one of the 2 endings that are in the third route, which is the canonical bad one, with the destruction of the world (I think, since from what I understand, if you don't do events before going against X or Y boss, then Luka has to use the deus ex machine of the power of chaos and every time he uses it he gets closer to himself causing the end of the world) given that, they put the worst patch for "what if I fight with only a knife against a destroyer of worlds and still win?" instead of putting an invisible wall of "X talking to Luka: Luka don't be a lunatic, first we need to recruit more people to be able to face a destroyer, let's prepare first".

What's more, now that I think about it, what a missed opportunity to make reference to Elder Scrolls with the mission of killing a powerful creature with a fork, although by reference this game would even make captain america come back from the dead and give him a pat on the back.
 
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Update from translate team


> Restored missing request scenes + BF interactions and missing lines in them.
> +Removed commands that would make the game attempt load nonexistent Miyabihime CGs (which caused crashes in her Seduction event and the Scene Recollection).
> +Adjusted the respawn coordinate one tile down when saving in the angel world's Sabsasa so that the player no longer respawns stuck inside an object with warping being the only way out.
> +Added a few extra checks to the Transfer Process script to give you race change options related to post-Collab Scenario sidequests if you've completed them back in 2.41, which should save some players the trouble of needing to restart the entire scenario all over again.
> +Fixed tags in Kazuya's actor data so that his sword/gun skills properly apply bleeding.
> +A few typo/text corrections.
 

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Bro, literally unless you bought it original, you most likely got the game from this page and obviously since the thread hasn't been updated on the latest page, since even the mods don't know whether to update it or not because it's not "really" translated, you had to be on the lookout and reading at least the most recent pages, so if you have problems with Mtool to be able to play, simply use ITH + Translation aggregator (I use that combo and I've had 0 problems and I'm already on the third route) or any of the other methods or options that have been shared.
Can you post the link for "ITH" please ? I would like to try your method because i'm having too much crashes with Mtool,
and i'm owning the original raw version of the game (bought on Dlsite)

Problem is not from the english patched translation but from Mtool, i hope the dev will fix theses issues..

I don't have any mods or english patch on it but just the original game + Mtool but nope the game is still crashing
I bought the game because like you i thought crashes came from the english translation + Mtool mixed together but nope, then
i tried the cracked version + Mtool without any english translation or mods on it, game is still crashing
Then i bought the game on Dlsite and tried Mtool on it and it's still randomly crashing

That's why i will probably do your method because Mtool is not optimised for MGQ paradox
 
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Steel105

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I wish there's a way for me to download the game file. Not as a zip file, but as a folder. Because if I try to extract it, my phone would just run out of storage. 12.90 GB free.
 

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Bro, literally unless you bought it original, you most likely got the game from this page and obviously since the thread hasn't been updated on the latest page, since even the mods don't know whether to update it or not because it's not "really" translated, you had to be on the lookout and reading at least the most recent pages, so if you have problems with Mtool to be able to play, simply use ITH + Translation aggregator (I use that combo and I've had 0 problems and I'm already on the third route) or any of the other methods or options that have been shared.

And bro, I share your feeling that this game got more bloated than Naruto filler in part 3, but also as a response to this, Torotoro put in the secret stones, which you have to use and even make any character you have, regardless of whether you ever made Labyrinth or not, a monster with stats from hell and if you still don't want to have to farm stones or their materials to create them, simply use cheese, in the translations part, open the weapons, armor and notepad files simply write in Japanese in the search option the names of the characters you use (if they are main characters) and hit search, it will take you directly to the name and ID of the most broken weapons before Labyrinth that you can have in the game and with that, even if you put bad stones in the 3 slots, you don't suffer as much even in paradox difficulty.

Or, if you don't want so much trouble, simply if you have touched the third route already, then you´ll have obtained large medallions, with having 3 of them the doors of the world will open, since if you go to the castle of medals, with the king (I don't know what the queen gives or if she gives items, I haven't discovered where she is yet) you get a universal set for any character that is the third best in the base game without items in the labyrinth, but of course that set each piece is worth many medals, what you would simply have to do is download cheat engine, open it, link the game, type without touching anything in the options 3 * 2 + 1, hit search, exchange a candy that is worth 1 medal, change 3 * 2 + 1 for 2 * 2 + 1 and hit next scan, do the above again until you are in 1 * 2 + 1, then in the search list there will only be one result, double click or drag it down in the white box that is there, then left click and in the options that come out, click on change to hexadecimal and finally, from the sequence of numbers that it changes to, leave the last 2 numbers on the right untouched and after these, right-click on them and an editing box will appear, delete the 2 zeros that are before the last 2 and write AA and click on ok, finally just check the box for the process that is there and that's it, you can buy anything from this store, which apart from the set I would recommend that you buy the MP and SP reduction stones, so that you can make chains easier.

And that process you can use for anything in the game, even if you only have a single object of a type, although for that process it is a little different, for this you simply apply the fundamentals of the above, but in the maid of the pocket castle, depending on what you want to increase, when you give it the option to store objects, choose the type and in the list that comes out of objects that you have find the object that you want to increase, to this only object you pass it to save and without leaving the menu and with the cheat engine you write 1 * 2 + 1 and you press search, then you return your object to your possession and without leaving the menu ever, in cheat engine you change to 0 * 2 + 1 and you press next, you do again the same thing as before passing the object and write 1 * 2 + 1 and you repeat everything until finally you have a single result and important, the only object that you have of that type was stored with the maid, when that is the case do the same thing as before to lower it to the white box, see it with hexadecimal and edit it with AA and that's it, when you want to move the maid's items to your inventory you'll see that she has an infinite number of them and you can simply take as many as you want, and another option is to use the original process I mentioned, apply it with the seeds to the characters you want, use an auto-keyboard and let it increase the stats as much as you want.

Anyway, I hope I've been able to help a little all those who arrive and only see walls in this current final part (since who knows what they'll do if they really do the fourth route in a DLC) and are using either the Raw 3.01 game (recommended, since using the version with translation drives automatic translators a little crazy) or don't want to touch anything in the version with translation for fear of ruining something.


Bro, if you didn't read the intro of the third route well, from there they make it clear that Torotoro was inspired by the most recent Zeldas and you can go wherever you want, even to the final boss from minute 1 but of course, being unable to do so and in fact, if you do, getting one of the 2 endings that are in the third route, which is the canonical bad one, with the destruction of the world (I think, since from what I understand, if you don't do events before going against X or Y boss, then Luka has to use the deus ex machine of the power of chaos and every time he uses it he gets closer to himself causing the end of the world) given that, they put the worst patch for "what if I fight with only a knife against a destroyer of worlds and still win?" instead of putting an invisible wall of "X talking to Luka: Luka don't be a lunatic, first we need to recruit more people to be able to face a destroyer, let's prepare first".

What's more, now that I think about it, what a missed opportunity to make reference to Elder Scrolls with the mission of killing a powerful creature with a fork, although by reference this game would even make captain america come back from the dead and give him a pat on the back.
Appreciate the advice on how to cheat harder, however I'm mainly interested in what ITH + Translation Aggregator is and if you have any links for that, since the primary roadblock for progressing is the constant crashes caused by MTool instability.
 
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