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RPGM Completed Monster Girl Quest: Paradox [Part 3 v3.01] [Torotoro Resistance]

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asdf1524

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Without spoiling me and stuff are the archangels and ancestors recruitable in the 3rd route? And so is Black alice? Kagetsumugi? And the monster lord dolls? I just need to know so i know what i can be hype for
Archangels/ancestors is a bit complicated. They join your party intermittently for a while for about the first half of the 3rd route (they join you temporarily for their quests, but you can't change their equipment, and once you finish the quests associated with them then they leave). About half way into the route, you get to a point where you can use 1 archangel and 1 ancestor, but only 1 of each (you can switch which one you're using at any time), but still can't change their equipment. Near the end of the game you can change their equipment but can still only use 1 of each. In the postgame you finally properly recruit them and can use any/all of them freely.

As of the current version Black Alice (if you mean the god version) isn't recruitable, though you obviously have all of the other versions of her that were already available. Kagetsumugi is recruitable. The dolls.. are "sort of" recruitable, but I'm not sure I can elaborate without spoilers.
 

knight8

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Really curious to see that the update shows you are going to replay the Monster route. For those that don't know, the image shown in the blog is about a catgirl in the monster lord castle. She and the oni girl you see on the background get devoured by Hiruko eventually, so this is one fate you're going to avoid I guess.



Pretty much all of the Six Ancestors except Hiruko, the Four Heavenly Knights, Alice's mother, some new recruitable human girl they suddenly introduced in Part 3 Chaos Route called Constantine (pretty much falls really hard for him), the Remina Queen who's also a BF (she's recruitable in 3.02 only), Sonya, Alice, Ilias, Brynhildr, the Lilith Sisters (or at least only Lilith so far) and then a few of the monsters we already knew like the Elf Princess and the Spider Princess. Lucifina wants to create a tournament in a month to decide who marries him. And yeah, apart from Ilias, none of the angels are really interested on him.
And nuruko does she get a better trait?
 
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tecnologias14

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Nuruko's ability when grown up is Spirit of Chaos. This is what it does:

- Maximizes the power of Eternal and End attribute attacks.
- Deals special damage against Apoptosis.
- Can use Holy, Dark, Tentacle and Chaos skills at all times, regardless of race or job.
- Maximizes the power of Holy, Dark, Tentacle and Chaos skills.
- Holy, Dark and Chaos skills depend on dexterity only for damage calculations.
- Can chain Tentacle -> Holy -> Dark -> Chaos, only in this order.
- Counters time stop effects used by the opponent.
- Ignores time stop effects.
 

battlebrother

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I think my game might be bugged, I've done everything there was to be done on the Third Route, yet when I defeat the Final boss, I get a bad ending and the rabbit tells me I went in too early. Is there a way to fix that?
There is a Magical Girl quest for Granberia that is completely unmarked (amira tells you nothing about it). Talk to some adventurer in the Magistrate (one with tentacle girls) village, left side of town next to a tree. He tells you about a bed in Lima ruins where you can sleep and have a lewd dream, kicks off a questline similar to other 16 calamities. I could get the good ending after clearing that.
 

knight8

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Nuruko's ability when grown up is Spirit of Chaos. This is what it does:

- Maximizes the power of Eternal and End attribute attacks.
- Deals special damage against Apoptosis.
- Can use Holy, Dark, Tentacle and Chaos skills at all times, regardless of race or job.
- Maximizes the power of Holy, Dark, Tentacle and Chaos skills.
- Holy, Dark and Chaos skills depend on dexterity only for damage calculations.
- Can chain Tentacle -> Holy -> Dark -> Chaos, only in this order.
- Counters time stop effects used by the opponent.
- Ignores time stop effects.
It's pretty sad how weak Luka trait is conpared to to the others main characters
 
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Dharkie29

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There is a Magical Girl quest for Granberia that is completely unmarked (amira tells you nothing about it). Talk to some adventurer in the Magistrate (one with tentacle girls) village, left side of town next to a tree. He tells you about a bed in Lima ruins where you can sleep and have a lewd dream, kicks off a questline similar to other 16 calamities. I could get the good ending after clearing that.
Does it only activate if granberia is in the party? if so how to recruit granberia?
 

ZDK666

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finally found gnosis and nuruko which unlocked the other two events i was missing and the true ending lol
 

Ximzo

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here the 3.02 part 3 untranslated folder (it's the first time i'm sharing files so tell me if something is wrong)
 

asdf1524

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It's pretty sad how weak Luka trait is conpared to to the others main characters
Honestly, Luka's trait isn't even that bad. There are a lot of characters that are better than his, but I still consider his to be above average.. One of the things that needs to be realized is that the optimal strategy in the 3rd route is for characters to either be pure damage dealers or pure tanks (or maybe a few utility edge cases like having pure agility support to deal with enemy priority attacks). Mixed builds just do so little damage compared to a pure damage dealer that if you aren't a pure damage dealer there's no point even attacking at all and you may as well ignore damage altogether. If you're a pure damage dealer, then you expect to always die in 1 hit, so there's nothing wrong with always being at 20% or lower health, in which case Luka is getting a pretty huge buff to his heroism skills, which unlike part 2, actually have good damaging abilities (20% because afaik that's the lowest % you can have after being resurrected). You expect your damage dealers to die almost every turn (unless the enemy has nothing to counter daystar in which case you can just spam daystar and win), so you just have your tank resurrect them at the end of every turn. Being at 20% or lower health also allows you to make use of all of the crisis buffs (with the gem you get from the reaper battle challenge, you can get to 4 actions per turn fairly easily, and you can get priority on your actions from the new skills, and you get +100% to all stats from another skill for being at below 20% health).


Also, most of the stuff you see on the traits are actually fluff in the long term. Nearly everything can be gained from skills if you need them. Chains are only relevant if they: 1) can't be gained from a race or class and 2) either use the same skill multiple times or are being used for something that isn't dealing damage. Because of the way gems work, you're incentivized to focus all of your gems on 1 attack type, so your other attack types will do pretty miserable damage by comparison, so you can only expect 1 of your attacks to actually do good damage usually (of course, chains that give some kind of buff or utility other than damage can be useful). Changing the stat scaling of attack types is ultimately also not that meaningful because of that, because since you only expect 1 of your attacks to do real damage, there's no reason you couldn't just focus on whichever stat that particular attack uses (and there are also skills that remove the need for weapon compatibility too).
 

whitecode

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It's pretty sad how weak Luka trait is conpared to to the others main characters
Then you are probably playing Luka wrong, he is literally the most broken character in terms of raw damage output. If you build Luka correctly he can OTKO the true final boss in a single turn, with overflowing damage surplus
 
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Then you are probably playing Luka wrong, he is literally the most broken character in terms of raw damage output. If you build Luka correctly he can OTKO the true final boss in a single turn, with overflowing damage surplus
What's the best build for Luka? Not good in doing that so I have no idea how to bring out shota's max potential
 

asdf1524

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What's the best build for Luka? Not good in doing that so I have no idea how to bring out shota's max potential
Basically, ignore everything other than attack, and put the accessory that sets his HP to 20% at the start of a fight and gives him +50% to all stats (technically you can set his health low without that accessory with the orb of lifedrain, but it's pretty tedious needing to do that so I recommend using that accessory). Give him the crisis extra action skill, the skill that gives him +100% to all stats when below 20% health, and a bunch of other stuff that increases damage, plus one of the haste skills that lets him attack first (either heroism haste or whatever attack chains into heroism haste). Use gems that buff heroism damage and attack in all of the slots of his equipment (plus the crisis 3x action gem you can get from the reaper battle challenge, which brings him up to 4 actions), and pick every ability you can find that buffs his damage, and use your strongest heroism attack.

I'm not sure if it exists or not since I haven't unlocked everything yet, but if there is one, then special haste would also be really good because it would let him use the special skills that give huge stat boosts for a turn (when you have 4 actions per turn there's no reason you wouldn't use them).

Also, if you can't kill an enemy in 1 turn, then just have your tankiest character use the medicine skill that resurrects someone with 20% health and you can do it every turn (as long as Luka doesn't have HP that's a multiple of 5 you'll keep the crisis buffs with that medicine skill).

.. I should note however, that you could use this build on basically any character and you'd probably be able to one shot the final boss with basically anyone doing this if you had strong enough equipment and unlocked enough jobs. Luka's ability is nice and all and it does make it a little bit stronger, but.. honestly, tripling the damage output of heroism skills isn't even that big of a buff in the grand scheme of things when you consider that you're multiplying his damage by something like 800 from just having the right gems, maybe even more than 800 if it's fully optimized.
 
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knight8

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Then you are probably playing Luka wrong, he is literally the most broken character in terms of raw damage output. If you build Luka correctly he can OTKO the true final boss in a single turn, with overflowing damage surplus
I only played to part 2
 
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