RPGM Completed Monster Girl Quest: Paradox [Part 3 v3.01] [Torotoro Resistance]

[Goi]

To a degree yes power creep happens even on Ilias, Hild is a rare case due to starting with very good race setup to be very good long term

Ilias is one of the weaker angels as a character, she gets a bit better after lv 85 with a new skill added, honestly all remain useable but later characters are generally better even more so part 3 characters from after the great decision they are generally just the strongest members right away.

Alice and Luka are way better in different ways luka‘s unique sword letting him easily hit weakness and being basically a recruit bot, Alice has just so many races she can be built in basically any way

like it is possible in Alice Route to cheese the super boss using either Alicetroemeria(chapter 2) or Rovissa(colab) by haste black magic and making sure that the super boss is always asleep and so doesn’t get a turn.

Like not always the case but generally later characters have much better traits and so become stronger like Alicetroemeria who you get chapter 2 alice route or at great decision siding with alice. Since her trait lets her just use two Black magic or spells(with only extra 50% cost for double cast in one turn)

Deal +30% Dark damage.

Can always use Black Magic, Time Magic and Dark skills.

Black Magic and Time Magic act twice with 150% MP cost.

Which due to her races can get two of the additional actions per turn for some cost skill, so can basically cast Black magic or Time skills 6 times per turn if she need to massively amp her damage even more(also has a 50% magic up skill she gets access to), add in gets a unique fire spell with a better damage formula than even the one from the advanced class Inferno mage

TLR so like it depends on the character by a lot because depends on traits and what race they are like genuine some part 3 characters are straight up worse than part 1 characters and some are way better

 

[Yoloswagking]

Aloha Forum,

i have a question. How far is the translation with Part 3 at Bob Mtl 4.0 at the Chaos Route? Is it translated?

It's done. We are waiting for the epilogue the famous "what if" route where you can recruit special monster from the chaos route but until this point it's fully translated.

 

[Yoloswagking]

How relevant do early characters stay? Both lore important ones and generic encounters?

More specifically so I currently have Luka, Ilias, Sonya, Promestein, and Hild (Just got her). I noticed that Hild seems stronger than my other units so I am curious, will new units continue to powercreep my existing ones (Perhaps aside from Luka and maybe Ilias since they seem to be the Main characters?) Of my current cast who stays relevant powerwise versus later joining characters in Part 2 / 3? or will Part 2/3 chars be way stronger than part 1 chars (aside from a select few like I assume Ilias Luka and I suppose Alice if I selected her) ?

Like in most game with a large roster new monster have advantages, but mostly the "boss" that you fight and recruit later are the one with stronger passive. (like 10 sentence of passive for some of them when the slime girl get 1 sentence)
At the end of the day Luka passive is still the best passive of the game and you can OS most fight until the end of chaos route with a good build Luka. The other member are more a support cast if you use Luka correctly.
Don't forget that you can use the drain orb on luka in order for him to have 1hp and get massive dmg boost on his hero skills + critical condition ability that let you have double action and +50% stat when under 20% hp

 

[Nyan61192]

To a degree yes power creep happens even on Ilias, Hild is a rare case due to starting with very good race setup to be very good long term

Ilias is one of the weaker angels as a character, she gets a bit better after lv 85 with a new skill added, honestly all remain useable but later characters are generally better even more so part 3 characters from after the great decision they are generally just the strongest members right away.

Alice and Luka are way better in different ways luka‘s unique sword letting him easily hit weakness and being basically a recruit bot, Alice has just so many races she can be built in basically any way

like it is possible in Alice Route to cheese the super boss using either Alicetroemeria(chapter 2) or Rovissa(colab) by haste black magic and making sure that the super boss is always asleep and so doesn’t get a turn.

Like not always the case but generally later characters have much better traits and so become stronger like Alicetroemeria who you get chapter 2 alice route or at great decision siding with alice. Since her trait lets her just use two Black magic or spells(with only extra 50% cost for double cast in one turn)


Which due to her races can get two of the additional actions per turn for some cost skill, so can basically cast Black magic or Time skills 6 times per turn if she need to massively amp her damage even more(also has a 50% magic up skill she gets access to), add in gets a unique fire spell with a better damage formula than even the one from the advanced class Inferno mage

TLR so like it depends on the character by a lot because depends on traits and what race they are like genuine some part 3 characters are straight up worse than part 1 characters and some are way better

Ah i see. So aside from Hild and Luka who else from part 1 scales well into Part 3? I can sort of guess that I will be gettiing Chrome and Lily soon? How about Sonya and Prom btw do they scale well into late game?

 

[Nyan61192]

Like in most game with a large roster new monster have advantages, but mostly the "boss" that you fight and recruit later are the one with stronger passive. (like 10 sentence of passive for some of them when the slime girl get 1 sentence)
At the end of the day Luka passive is still the best passive of the game and you can OS most fight until the end of chaos route with a good build Luka. The other member are more a support cast if you use Luka correctly.
Don't forget that you can use the drain orb on luka in order for him to have 1hp and get massive dmg boost on his hero skills + critical condition ability that let you have double action and +50% stat when under 20% hp

ah i see. How do i stop him from dying if hes at 1 hp?

 

[Yoloswagking]

ah i see. How do i stop him from dying if hes at 1 hp?

AOE (full team) hero skills can kill every monster easily with Luka at 1hp. Just be sure you give him ability to increase his speed (agility) and later on chaos route the new ability that add massive speed boost for category of skills like hero skills, in order to act first. (hero haste)
Of course this strat is mostly for boss, if you don't use the mod in order to auto recruit the monster you fight, you are going to need to speak to them multiple time before killing them. In my opinion this gameplay is pretty boring and can x2 or x3 the time you need to play this game for pretty much nothing more than the need to fight the same monster again and again. Just use the mod, OS monster with Luka and enjoy the story. (the mod is already in my version 3.05, it's the mod named recruit.rb)
Optimisation is the death of fun in this game. I can say this because I build a team of 4 with every job and race maxed. I just killed my enjoyment and I didn't even played the labyrinth.

 

[Goi]

Prom is slightly worse for long term use that Luka but still is one of the better angels from both part 1 and 2, Second best counting Alice route but only 5th best.

Sonya scales decently as well if not the best

mitsuko aka the honey pot has a hilarious build option due to having access to Slime and Scylla so has insane tentacle skill or normal attack due to EX tentacle up granting Mitsuko 8 additional basic attacks and 3 additional Tentacle skills per cast and being able to get access to multiple of the multiple actions per turn like just the slime 1 is 2 more actions per turn.

so that alone is 27 basic attacks in one turn it gets silly fast and that isn’t even the max form of said build, like a good may to make it go insane is stuff hild with food she likes to get to 6000 affection to get the supreme attack scroll or 900% more normal attack damage there are a lot of other ways is well but basically once decently build she basically start doing easily a million per attack during like end of part 2 with that(this is without either the extra nirmal attacks or extra actions being active), which is like one shots black alice level of power who is a part 2 super boss

Barbun aka rabbit girl is also good due to having a trait that is super good with bows

For Luka
two ways either pick up auto defence from Psycho job line you unlock for Luka or with him is just one shot most encounters like he can do silly damage later of you want like heroism haste To insure he goes first

but in part 3 getting haste on skill so they go first is kind of needed

 

[Nyan61192]

ok thx for all advice

 

[Goi]

Honestly you can play with whoever you want basically what matters for long term power in comparison is race access and traits, better either is the better they can scale in comparison to everyone else

like slime auto scale better than most because have access eventually to divine division aka +2 actions per turn so is basically 3 turns per gameplay turn so is like just more flexible even if basically first turn gets locked to use said skill

In part 2 they were stronger because could stack normal division and Divine version, so they lost an action from peak action stacking which was 5 actions per turn now only can have 4 per turn which is basically a party by themselves, once they buff themselves up.

Mainly because you can get a side quest that lest slimes become beasts and the beasts become elves which gives access to 2 other +1 action per turn skills

 

[Nyan61192]

Honestly you can play with whoever you want basically what matters for long term power in comparison is race access and traits, better either is the better they can scale in comparison to everyone else

like slime auto scale better than most because have access eventually to divine division aka +2 actions per turn so is basically 3 turns per gameplay turn so is like just more flexible even if basically first turn gets locked to use said skill

In part 2 they were stronger because could stack normal division and Divine version, so they lost an action from peak action stacking which was 5 actions per turn now only can have 4 per turn which is basically a party by themselves, once they buff themselves up.

Mainly because you can get a side quest that lest slimes become beasts and the beasts become elves which gives access to 2 other +1 action per turn skills

hmm I see is the game balanced around that (assuming I am on normal as I was unsure on difficulty so chose normal) ? As in if I dont do it does the game become hard or conversely if I do that does the game become too easy?

AOE (full team) hero skills can kill every monster easily with Luka at 1hp. Just be sure you give him ability to increase his speed (agility) and later on chaos route the new ability that add massive speed boost for category of skills like hero skills, in order to act first. (hero haste)
Of course this strat is mostly for boss, if you don't use the mod in order to auto recruit the monster you fight, you are going to need to speak to them multiple time before killing them. In my opinion this gameplay is pretty boring and can x2 or x3 the time you need to play this game for pretty much nothing more than the need to fight the same monster again and again. Just use the mod, OS monster with Luka and enjoy the story. (the mod is already in my version 3.05, it's the mod named recruit.rb)
Optimisation is the death of fun in this game. I can say this because I build a team of 4 with every job and race maxed. I just killed my enjoyment and I didn't even played the labyrinth.

Ah ya thx for this am using that mod. Although I do have a question regarding your version. when I open the Part 2 version (since I am still in part 2) it opens in full screen and I dont know how to change it. The part 3 version opens in windowed which I much preffer but since I am in part 1 i preffer playing with part 2 ver cus better translation. Any idea how to turn Part 2 to window mode?

 

[Yoloswagking]

hmm I see is the game balanced around that (assuming I am on normal as I was unsure on difficulty so chose normal) ? As in if I dont do it does the game become hard or conversely if I do that does the game become too easy?




Ah ya thx for this am using that mod. Although I do have a question regarding your version. when I open the Part 2 version (since I am still in part 2) it opens in full screen and I dont know how to change it. The part 3 version opens in windowed which I much preffer but since I am in part 1 i preffer playing with part 2 ver cus better translation. Any idea how to turn Part 2 to window mode?

try f5 or alt+enter

 

[Goi]

hmm I see is the game balanced around that (assuming I am on normal as I was unsure on difficulty so chose normal) ? As in if I dont do it does the game become hard or conversely if I do that does the game become too easy?

didn’t find too much issue person either time I played and think I played on normal but haven’t personally went through all of part 3 yet but what I hear and seen is stats get a lot bigger.

like I know last playthrough was doing a lot of one to 2 turns fights admittedly for a lot of it was using Barbun because really liked the easy access to double damage she has thanks to her trait and how bows works(trait give 30% bind and dex down to bow skills, Bows do 100% more damage when enemy is debuffed) also Luka having good damage.

did not feel super imbalance for just playing normally

 

[El_Psycho]

hi, sorry for the boring question, I supposedly fulfilled all the conditions that are on the screenshot, but I still can't start the collab scenario. I have a save after the end of the second part, where the white rabbit is standing at the entrance to the pocket castle, but now after a long time I'm going to destroy the papeter tower, I would like to start the collab but the rabbit is nowhere to be found. help...

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Ah i see. So aside from Hild and Luka who else from part 1 scales well into Part 3? I can sort of guess that I will be gettiing Chrome and Lily soon? How about Sonya and Prom btw do they scale well into late game?

The powercreep is not that bad actually. You just have to do more grind for the jobs and race levels for the older members.
Lime is the best example of that. You can take her all the way to Chaos route, and she is still good, if you bother to grind her up.

Anyways. Is there a way to save Cockroach Queen if I'm on Ilias route?

 

[Nyan61192]

didn’t find too much issue person either time I played and think I played on normal but haven’t personally went through all of part 3 yet but what I hear and seen is stats get a lot bigger.

like I know last playthrough was doing a lot of one to 2 turns fights admittedly for a lot of it was using Barbun because really liked the easy access to double damage she has thanks to her trait and how bows works(trait give 30% bind and dex down to bow skills, Bows do 100% more damage when enemy is debuffed) also Luka having good damage.

did not feel super imbalance for just playing normally

ah thx. Ya I liked her design and also noticed how good her passive was 30% dmg and 30% dex. She seems to do insane damage. benched Illias for Hild so now running with Luka Sonya Hild and Barbun into Sabasa.

 

[ronincrusader]

Hey has new game plus come out yet?

 

[HeallyAce]

Well, I guess I can upload my own version of 3.05 to gofile for ease to use for the people who want the option.

You must be registered to see the links

It's the same version that Uchihafabio gave us earlier with the addition of chaos guide inside, the tool folder if you want to use mtool cheat engine, the mod for auto recruit monster girl at the end of every fight without the need to speak with them, the limite increase for each stack of item to 999, and my save folder where save 16 is before the big choice where you choose what faction you are going to join (with a very powerful team and gems stack for easy cruise on the story until chaos route)
You can delete the patch folder if you don't like the mods.

Credit to
Uchihafabio
for the reupload of version 3.05
Saki-Chan Sparkle☆
for the bob mtl modification

The gofile also include a link to version 2.41 if you want to play from the beginning in full english and experience the collab scenario without the need to finish the content of part 3
And the excel file with the location of every new monter that you can recruit

You're a lifesaver dude. Quick question, how do I delete all the pre-existing saves and data (including achievements and what-not)?

Edit: I just found out how to do it, lol.
At first I got stumped cause I only deleted the save files from your game not realizing that I have to delete all the saves.

 

[Yoloswagking]

You're a lifesaver dude. Quick question, how do I delete all the pre-existing saves and data (including achievements and what-not)?

Edit: I just found out how to do it, lol.
At first I got stumped cause I only deleted the save files from your game not realizing that I have to delete all the saves.

Sadly, some triggers are stocked inside the data of the game and you can't really find them easily. Thing like the scene recollection being fully unlocked and stuff like the library I think. Hope this doesn't impact too heavily on your enjoyment.

 

[Relinted]

hi, sorry for the boring question, I supposedly fulfilled all the conditions that are on the screenshot, but I still can't start the collab scenario. I have a save after the end of the second part, where the white rabbit is standing at the entrance to the pocket castle, but now after a long time I'm going to destroy the papeter tower, I would like to start the collab but the rabbit is nowhere to be found. help...

Do I get it right that you are on MR route of third part now (aka post Great Decision)? If yes then there is no way now, Collab is the exact thing game warns you about when you fly to Hellgondo (Something about "Make sure you finished everything you wanted, situation may change drastically", something like that). Now you have to finish the route you chose, then you will be able to either start next try from the beginning of adventure, or from Great Decision, you have to start from the beginning, then finish first two parts and you once again will be able to start Collab

 

[mandmihate]

ah thx. Ya I liked her design and also noticed how good her passive was 30% dmg and 30% dex. She seems to do insane damage. benched Illias for Hild so now running with Luka Sonya Hild and Barbun into Sabasa.

I felt like Illias was doing more for me than sonya. She gets holy damage, lightning damage, and pleasure damage from the angel races and I have her level up a white mage job as soon as it's available, so she's got that covered too.