RPGM Completed Monster Girl Quest: Paradox [Part 3 v3.01] [Torotoro Resistance]

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Nyan61192

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The difficulty spike is logical, because you must have played through the entire game two times to even unlock the chaos route.
The bigger question here is - how the fuck are you still not strong enough after two full playthroughs?
Hmm I am getting confused so id like to clarify a few things then. For context I just finished part 2 (hard) and collab gonna do timeloop now

Based on what was said earlier

There is an around 80+ hr grind somewhere (Based on what ppl said its right b4 chaos route) if you dont want to cheat. So World Breaker and Judgememt difficulty curve us fine ? Its just the Chaos Route which as said is NG+2 content which needs cheat or long grind?
 

Yoloswagking

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Hmm I am getting confused so id like to clarify a few things then. For context I just finished part 2 (hard) and collab gonna do timeloop now

Based on what was said earlier

There is an around 80+ hr grind somewhere (Based on what ppl said its right b4 chaos route) if you dont want to cheat. So World Breaker and Judgememt difficulty curve us fine ? Its just the Chaos Route which as said is NG+2 content which needs cheat or long grind?
Well the grind is more after the start because you get pretty powerfull helper at the start and they are probably your best bet for clearing the content. And yeah the difficulty spike is more on the side of the mimic during the route and the non linear progression, because you can explore the whole map with garuda and the last boss needing a very powerfull team to clear.
 

Nyan61192

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Ive been thinking about the route split since I am about to finish Part 2 . If I choose Dark Goddess side on the Ilias route who leaves my party aside from Illias? I assume Eden and the Micaela and Lucifina ? What about Heinrich? Cus currently my Main party is them and I just sort of realized if they leave when i do Dark goddess route I wont have them for NG+1. So aside from Illias and Alice who is exclusive to each path from part 2 prior? NGL after seeing the collab characters I am tempted to use them when I didnt originally plan to but it does feel annoying needing to grind them up at least their job lvls after I grinded up Eden/Micaela/Lucifina to form that team.

Also do party slots increase beyond 12 in part 3?

Re Collab. Just finished it overall the collab also felt kind of unbalanced in the sense that Kazuya and Hakunen got a lot of the best and funniest story beats on the Hero side while the other 4 felt less developed.
 

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All the route exclusive characters leave so yes Heinrich, Eden, Micalea, Luifina,

however Alice, Alicetroemeria and Moragain join and are higher level than their join point

add in Alicetroemeria is insanely strong with her double cast Black and Time magic

also because you have so many party slots can have a backup party ready when you switch and yes at least to 14 when you recruit the divine bird not sure if another one happens personally
 

Yoloswagking

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Ive been thinking about the route split since I am about to finish Part 2 . If I choose Dark Goddess side on the Ilias route who leaves my party aside from Illias? I assume Eden and the Micaela and Lucifina ? What about Heinrich? Cus currently my Main party is them and I just sort of realized if they leave when i do Dark goddess route I wont have them for NG+1. So aside from Illias and Alice who is exclusive to each path from part 2 prior? NGL after seeing the collab characters I am tempted to use them when I didnt originally plan to but it does feel annoying needing to grind them up at least their job lvls after I grinded up Eden/Micaela/Lucifina to form that team.

Also do party slots increase beyond 12 in part 3?

Re Collab. Just finished it overall the collab also felt kind of unbalanced in the sense that Kazuya and Hakunen got a lot of the best and funniest story beats on the Hero side while the other 4 felt less developed.
Best advice for part 3 is build Luka. He is forced on your team and his passive is one of the easiest way to one shot most content of the game until the last boss. You can use the drain orb in the key item to have him at 1 hp and use aoe hero skill. Build him good and he is going to carry you.
And if you want to do the post true end content, he got some mega evolution with his passives and the ability to stop time.
 

Nyan61192

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All the route exclusive characters leave so yes Heinrich, Eden, Micalea, Luifina,

however Alice, Alicetroemeria and Moragain join and are higher level than their join point

add in Alicetroemeria is insanely strong with her double cast Black and Time magic

also because you have so many party slots can have a backup party ready when you switch and yes at least to 14 when you recruit the divine bird not sure if another one happens personally

out of curiosity does that also apply to exclusive characters on the route? Say I go Judgement first and presumably i get chars exclusive to that route and presumably some even very late into the route. Will i be able to use those ppl in NG+ Worldbreaker or will they be removed?
 

YouShallNotLol

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All the route exclusive characters leave so yes Heinrich, Eden, Micalea, Luifina,

however Alice, Alicetroemeria and Moragain join and are higher level than their join point

add in Alicetroemeria is insanely strong with her double cast Black and Time magic

also because you have so many party slots can have a backup party ready when you switch and yes at least to 14 when you recruit the divine bird not sure if another one happens personally
out of curiosity does that also apply to exclusive characters on the route? Say I go Judgement first and presumably i get chars exclusive to that route and presumably some even very late into the route. Will i be able to use those ppl in NG+ Worldbreaker or will they be removed?
I strongly advise you to just stick to one route. Because you'll keep the route-exclusive characters in NG+ (Except Ilias/Alice). Unlike if you were to switch mid-route, and lose all of them.

Not to mention, you'll have to go back and finish both routes properly anyway, to unlock Chaos route.
 

atomicp

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out of curiosity does that also apply to exclusive characters on the route? Say I go Judgement first and presumably i get chars exclusive to that route and presumably some even very late into the route. Will i be able to use those ppl in NG+ Worldbreaker or will they be removed?
All characters that join you for story reasons during the decision routes are removed from the party, but not any recruited monster girls - and there's a fuckton of strong party members.

So, for example, Zion joins you at AD / Judgement, but will not be in your party after that route ends and you're back at the great decision. However, after the start of Chaos route, people who aren't needed for events on that route WILL join you again after you are able to access the Pocket Castle after a few events.

Also if you don't have one yet, I strongly advise you to train characters from the Minstrel / Dancer joblines.

And recruit as many monster girls from each route as possible; some of them are pretty handy with jobs and skills above what you would might expect, such as MR's Sabriel and Angel Ghoul, or AD's Tao Scorpion and Giga Dryad.
 

Crudze

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Hi, i won't have time for a proper playthrough yet sadly but i was wondering if this game has some kind sex endings similar to the original game and how to trigger them, i've got a full save that i plan to use to check things out so if there's some specific location or npc you need to talk to i would very much like to know
 

Nyan61192

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All characters that join you for story reasons during the decision routes are removed from the party, but not any recruited monster girls - and there's a fuckton of strong party members.

So, for example, Zion joins you at AD / Judgement, but will not be in your party after that route ends and you're back at the great decision. However, after the start of Chaos route, people who aren't needed for events on that route WILL join you again after you are able to access the Pocket Castle after a few events.

Also if you don't have one yet, I strongly advise you to train characters from the Minstrel / Dancer joblines.

And recruit as many monster girls from each route as possible; some of them are pretty handy with jobs and skills above what you would might expect, such as MR's Sabriel and Angel Ghoul, or AD's Tao Scorpion and Giga Dryad.
Thx for advice my current team (currently still stuck in timeloop) atm is

Main Party Eden / Ilias / Micaela / Lucifina - Illias - is a Magic Type build the rest are their Standard dps builds

Backup Party is

El (Mermaid Princess) - Songstress ( for priority song)

Stephanie (name ??) (Green Box Girl) - Maid (for 2x service)

Luka - Standard dps build

Alraune Priestess - White Magic nd dps build sorta tbh i like her but unsure what to do with her

Lucia - Summoner dps

Barbun - Bow dps

Hild - Gun Dps

All have a lot of job experience and mastered a lot of basic nd intermediate jobs as well as some advanced ones.

12 slot is blank cus i like being able. I used the tier list sorta to see who was worth using although I didnt strictly go for SS tiers like the Honeypot.

Do these characters hold up in part 3 or will they get powercrept hard?
 

Noxstella

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NG+ after doing alice route first is kind of a pain. for the first time players i highly suggest to do ilias first.....mainly because i genuinely dislike her personality so fuckin' bad.....but it makes it worse because you can't get all the jobs on alice route and ilias does have some specific skills she can teach......but damn she is a cunt. she is what i personally would put into my "Trifling bitches" folder. toss them to the curb and if they make a fuss just curb stomp their ass and leave.
 

YouShallNotLol

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NG+ after doing alice route first is kind of a pain. for the first time players i highly suggest to do ilias first.....mainly because i genuinely dislike her personality so fuckin' bad.....but it makes it worse because you can't get all the jobs on alice route and ilias does have some specific skills she can teach......but damn she is a cunt. she is what i personally would put into my "Trifling bitches" folder. toss them to the curb and if they make a fuss just curb stomp their ass and leave.
You're just mad that Ilias route is objectively superior.
Ilias Superiority.png
 

Janarab

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Hmm I am getting confused so id like to clarify a few things then. For context I just finished part 2 (hard) and collab gonna do timeloop now

Based on what was said earlier

There is an around 80+ hr grind somewhere (Based on what ppl said its right b4 chaos route) if you dont want to cheat. So World Breaker and Judgememt difficulty curve us fine ? Its just the Chaos Route which as said is NG+2 content which needs cheat or long grind?
I didn't do any grinding between world breaker/judgement and chaos route and i did fine.

As other people will point out, a well built Luka will continue to 1 shot. Stack as much attack as you possible can, keep him at 1hp at all times, and use sword -> heroism chain attack to combo a priority move into a powerful heroism attack.

Singers are you best friend, having a priority stat increasing move. Yatagerasu shield gives auto haste letting whoever you put in on move first guaranteed.

If you go in thinking you can just use the highest number attack on all 4 characters and win, you will be stat checked. If you actually build a combo, you will find out that stacking multiplicative stat buffs does in fact let you deal exponentially scaling damage.
 

Nyan61192

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I didn't do any grinding between world breaker/judgement and chaos route and i did fine.

As other people will point out, a well built Luka will continue to 1 shot. Stack as much attack as you possible can, keep him at 1hp at all times, and use sword -> heroism chain attack to combo a priority move into a powerful heroism attack.

Singers are you best friend, having a priority stat increasing move. Yatagerasu shield gives auto haste letting whoever you put in on move first guaranteed.

If you go in thinking you can just use the highest number attack on all 4 characters and win, you will be stat checked. If you actually build a combo, you will find out that stacking multiplicative stat buffs does in fact let you deal exponentially scaling damage.
i see so aside from singers which I habe what other buffers do i want? or is 1 buffer which is a singer enough?
 

Janarab

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i see so aside from singers which I habe what other buffers do i want? or is 1 buffer which is a singer enough?
You shouldn't need anything else most of the time.

My usual team is
Luka (main dps)
Singer (i used alma elma mostly but i wouldn't recommend that as she leaves the party for story reasons often)
Talker (to to passively get some recruits while i go through an area)
4th slot is whoever i want to level

Singer also has a bonus xp/job xp skill, once again with priority, so when you don't need the stat boost you can level your 4 main party members twice as fast.

Alchemist has some crazy abilities but are rarely more useful than just trying to kill the enemy turn 1
Medicine skills i found some use for as well

Characters that get a ton of defensive stats from their race/class can be a nice backup, usually surviving multiple turns where the rest die in 1. teach them some revive and support skills to get your team back in the fight.
 

Yoloswagking

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You're just mad that Ilias route is objectively superior.
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In my opinion Ilias as better character devlopment than Alice who's pretty much the same as the one on the first trilogy.
Alice is waifu but a pretty neutral one with the big mommy complex.
Ilias is a bitch at the beginning but she evolve way better during the story. Becoming open to others.
The dev managed to make me feel bad for her and want to help her at the end, that pretty good work with how it's started.
 
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