HoM11

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Yeah the post didn't seem to be clear, so let me repost my reply to someone here, hopefully it'll make more sense:

So having to deal with VAT is one thing I'd like to avoid, yes.
But the real issue for me is overshooting the magic barrier for my type of s.p.
Right now, I'm taxed 4% on all my revenue, no matter the actual expenses (I have near-none apart from paying animators and electricity). But that flat rate is limited to a max revenue. If I would to go over that max revenue in the past year/past two years of the business, I'd no longer be allowed to be this type business, I'd have to enter the normal progressive tax scheme, and by calculations, would have to pay nearly 3x as much in taxes.

Example. I make 60k€ this year, 80% of that is deducted as expenses (even if it sits in my bank account), 20% of the remaining 12k€ is my tax for the year, meaning I have to pay 2.4k€ as tax. That's awesomely low, is it not?
Now, going over that 60k, to say, 61k earned, that forces me into a progressive tax scheme:



With those, I then have to pay 18k€ tax for earning just 1k more.
That's an effective tax rate of nearly 30% (vs the 4% I'm in at the moment).
So in my mind... I earn 60k, get to keep 57.5k~ But if I earn 61k, I get to keep 42k~
By my calc, I would have to earn closer to like 90k€ to keep the same amount as I do now in the current setup.
Granted I could whittle that down a bit by inventing expenses, but I'd never get it down to 4%.

This is a bit simplified as I did not include monthly payments that I have to make as a business here in slovenia, which are currently at about 600€/mo for me, and would have to be made in any case (so the actual effective rate tax is a bit higher for both versions). Concerning VAT, even though I noticed that Patreon is automatically deducting VAT from my gross, I don't actually have to add VAT to prices here until I go over 55k€ yearly revenue.
This is all Slovenia based information.
I don't know about other countries. I hope I made my predicament clear, I'm pretty new to this business stuff and lingo so I'm trying my best here.
Curse you, BananaCreamGames, for making me google and learn about Slovenian tax system for sole proprietors with normalized expenses!
 

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Yeah the post didn't seem to be clear, so let me repost my reply to someone here, hopefully it'll make more sense:

So having to deal with VAT is one thing I'd like to avoid, yes.
But the real issue for me is overshooting the magic barrier for my type of s.p.
Right now, I'm taxed 4% on all my revenue, no matter the actual expenses (I have near-none apart from paying animators and electricity). But that flat rate is limited to a max revenue. If I would to go over that max revenue in the past year/past two years of the business, I'd no longer be allowed to be this type business, I'd have to enter the normal progressive tax scheme, and by calculations, would have to pay nearly 3x as much in taxes.

Example. I make 60k€ this year, 80% of that is deducted as expenses (even if it sits in my bank account), 20% of the remaining 12k€ is my tax for the year, meaning I have to pay 2.4k€ as tax. That's awesomely low, is it not?
Now, going over that 60k, to say, 61k earned, that forces me into a progressive tax scheme:



With those, I then have to pay 18k€ tax for earning just 1k more.
That's an effective tax rate of nearly 30% (vs the 4% I'm in at the moment).
So in my mind... I earn 60k, get to keep 57.5k~ But if I earn 61k, I get to keep 42k~
By my calc, I would have to earn closer to like 90k€ to keep the same amount as I do now in the current setup.
Granted I could whittle that down a bit by inventing expenses, but I'd never get it down to 4%.

This is a bit simplified as I did not include monthly payments that I have to make as a business here in slovenia, which are currently at about 600€/mo for me, and would have to be made in any case (so the actual effective rate tax is a bit higher for both versions). Concerning VAT, even though I noticed that Patreon is automatically deducting VAT from my gross, I don't actually have to add VAT to prices here until I go over 55k€ yearly revenue.
This is all Slovenia based information.
I don't know about other countries. I hope I made my predicament clear, I'm pretty new to this business stuff and lingo so I'm trying my best here.
A tax system that truly encourages you to NOT succeed. I hope that you will be able to find a good balance with things. Though I would imagine that the Patreon income is far from stable with paid members increasing during a new release month and then falling off some.
 

HoM11

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That's honestly mind boggling.
A tax system that truly encourages you to NOT succeed.
After googling it, it's actually not that wild. We have a similar system in Russia for "self-employed" people (which I use myself — I translate videogames, haven't done porn ones though... yet) with 4-6% income tax, compared to 13% for most natural persons and 20% for companies. It was done to encourage people to come out of the "shadow" economy and start paying taxes properly, since a lot of such people get paid in cash, which is easy to hide from taxation.
The goal of this Slovenian scheme seems to be similar: to encourage small businesses. They did seem to have a smoother curve and a higher threshold prior to 2025 (100k: makes sense —it's higher than the brackets BCG posted).
Anyway, just earn more than 74k, BananaCreamGames, and pay corpo tax instead! :4Head::Kappa:
Also, ginger tax girl cameo in the game, please?
 
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I don't know about other countries. I hope I made my predicament clear, I'm pretty new to this business stuff and lingo so I'm trying my best here.
We can Cee that. Also: who here can say they live in a country where taxes are just and fair for everyone? A lot of people do love to whine about taxes though like it's a national sport while they ignore what they get back in return. Unless, of course, the government is full on corrupt. In such a case whining might be justified. A country where the citizens are proud to pay their share and invest in their communities sounds like Utopia nowadays, sadly. Just like Moonripple Lake.
 

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Yeah the post didn't seem to be clear, so let me repost my reply to someone here, hopefully it'll make more sense:

So having to deal with VAT is one thing I'd like to avoid, yes.
But the real issue for me is overshooting the magic barrier for my type of s.p.
Right now, I'm taxed 4% on all my revenue, no matter the actual expenses (I have near-none apart from paying animators and electricity). But that flat rate is limited to a max revenue. If I would to go over that max revenue in the past year/past two years of the business, I'd no longer be allowed to be this type business, I'd have to enter the normal progressive tax scheme, and by calculations, would have to pay nearly 3x as much in taxes.

Example. I make 60k€ this year, 80% of that is deducted as expenses (even if it sits in my bank account), 20% of the remaining 12k€ is my tax for the year, meaning I have to pay 2.4k€ as tax. That's awesomely low, is it not?
Now, going over that 60k, to say, 61k earned, that forces me into a progressive tax scheme:



With those, I then have to pay 18k€ tax for earning just 1k more.
That's an effective tax rate of nearly 30% (vs the 4% I'm in at the moment).
So in my mind... I earn 60k, get to keep 57.5k~ But if I earn 61k, I get to keep 42k~
By my calc, I would have to earn closer to like 90k€ to keep the same amount as I do now in the current setup.
Granted I could whittle that down a bit by inventing expenses, but I'd never get it down to 4%.

This is a bit simplified as I did not include monthly payments that I have to make as a business here in slovenia, which are currently at about 600€/mo for me, and would have to be made in any case (so the actual effective rate tax is a bit higher for both versions). Concerning VAT, even though I noticed that Patreon is automatically deducting VAT from my gross, I don't actually have to add VAT to prices here until I go over 55k€ yearly revenue.
This is all Slovenia based information.
I don't know about other countries. I hope I made my predicament clear, I'm pretty new to this business stuff and lingo so I'm trying my best here.
You should talk to an accountant, they'll save you a lot of headache and money. I hope the best for you
 
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Machete

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Question: What do people use to make ai-porn like this? Looks so high quality.
All of the above but consider that, at least for this title, the author uses a mixed technique. He seeds AI to generate several images, then he cut, stretch and elaborare pieces of several images to obtain exactly the schene he pictured in his mind with some old style photoshopping.

There was a video around the topic with the making of.
 

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Is there a way to play these games on ipad …. The .app is not working my ipad it seems only working on mac not iOs …

can anyone suggest something or wayaround pls ?
 

Machete

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Is there a way to play these games on ipad …. The .app is not working my ipad it seems only working on mac not iOs …

can anyone suggest something or wayaround pls ?
You just pointed the reason why i never buy apple products :D.

The short answer is 'no, you can't'.

Being more elaborate, the APKs of this games are made with some software that converts .exe format in .apk format. I don't know how it works exactly. But APK is the android format.

For your ipad you should see if there is a similar softwate for .exe to iOS fortmat but i would very much think there isn't and even if there was one iOS wouldn't let the converted app run due to certificates i would speculate.

Remember that Apple, basically, doesn't want you to use third party software. You don't pay them for it.

The alternative would be to see if there is a android emulator for ipad. Something that read and run the apk formant. I wouldn't think there is one but i recommend to look around.
 

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Is there a way to play these games on ipad …. The .app is not working my ipad it seems only working on mac not iOs …

can anyone suggest something or wayaround pls ?
Idk about anything else but if you want to play windows games on MAC, you can use 9to5Mac's video on uing Windows in Mac using VMWareFusion. It works well.
 

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Can someone suggest similar games to this with similar art style and where we share our wife/gf but she doesn't cheat herself and become some sad ntr humiliation story as I'm not into that
 
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Can someone suggest similar games to this with similar art style and where we share our wife/gf but she doesn't cheat herself and become some sad ntr humiliation story as I'm not into that
this game is top, you won't find any better. But if you are okay with lowering your expectations a bit, just search for 'swinging' + 'ai cg' in the "LATEST UPDATES" and sort it by "weighted rating", like here

there are plenty of games like that already

P.S. I haven't played a lot of them tho, so my evaluation of this game being the best may be incorrect, but I have a gut feeling that it is the best and it has the highest rating too
 
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Can someone suggest similar games to this with similar art style and where we share our wife/gf but she doesn't cheat herself and become some sad ntr humiliation story as I'm not into that
Preferences will vary, but I believe all of the VNs below are worth checking out if you like Moonripple Lake.

In no particular order:

1. Vulgar Reverie

2. Blurring The Walls

3. Netorase Phone

4. Nyatorase

5. My Girlfriend's Streaming Career

6. Sexting My GF

7. My New Girlfriend

8. Mila AI

9: My Girlfriend's New Kink

10: Secret Care Cafe
 

EternumiteForLife

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this game is top, you won't find any better. But if you are okay with lowering your expectations a bit, just search for 'swinging' + 'ai cg' in the "LATEST UPDATES" and sort it by "weighted rating", like here

there are plenty of games like that already

P.S. I haven't played a lot of them tho, so my evaluation of this game being the best may be incorrect, but I have a gut feeling that it is the best and it has the highest rating too
thanks man
 
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