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I'm an NTS guy, but my main complaint is when NTS games take a sudden hard right into full NTR.

We're already lacking in NTS games, don't give us hope then rip it away.


I don’t really see this game as taking a turn into NTR at all — for now it’s actually one of the clearest examples of anti-NTR design.


Suzy is consistently portrayed as being deeply in love with Anon, emotionally and narratively. All the “sharing” scenes so far are still entirely centered on him, initiated around him, and framed as something that happens with him, not away from him or in replacement of him.


If you’re referring to the latest scene specifically, Suzy was not acting out of free will there — she was clearly hypnotized / controlled. That’s not a character choosing to betray a relationship, that’s a loss of agency, and the story even makes it explicit that Anon can wake her up.


So at this point I see it as an NTS-friendly story with optional elements layered on top, not as a sudden shift into full NTR. And beyond that, the core of the game is still very clearly a developing love story between Suzy and Anon.
 
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I don’t really see this game as taking a turn into NTR at all — for now it’s actually one of the clearest examples of anti-NTR / NTS design.


Suzy is consistently portrayed as being deeply in love with Anon, emotionally and narratively. All the “sharing” scenes so far are still entirely centered on him, initiated around him, and framed as something that happens with him, not away from him or in replacement of him.


If you’re referring to the latest scene specifically, Suzy was not acting out of free will there — she was clearly hypnotized / controlled. That’s not a character choosing to betray a relationship, that’s a loss of agency, and the story even makes it explicit that Anon can wake her up.


So at this point I see it as an NTS-friendly story with optional elements layered on top, not as a sudden shift into full NTR. And beyond that, the core of the game is still very clearly a developing love story between Suzy and Anon.
Dude, you've already described everything. Suzie wasn't in control, and for me it was a very provocative and fun scene.
There was no penetration, and in my opinion, that part would fit very well into a possible DLC.

BCG has a gold mine here.
Many possibilities :D
 
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That doesn't matter, if anything that makes it worse. That shit shouldn't be possible other than on an NTR path imo.
Dude, it's a story. There are happy moments, sad moments , serious moments , scary moments a variety of things makes stories more rich and interesting

Take one of your favourite story games and do a straight 10 full playthrou on that single game and tell me how will the same story over and over feel like for you, my guess is it will be boring because nothing new outside of the same box will happen
 

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Dude, you've already described everything. Suzie wasn't in control, and for me it was a very provocative and fun scene.
There was no penetration, and in my opinion, that part would fit very well into a possible DLC.

BCG has a gold mine here.
Many possibilities :D
I'm repeating myself on this one but I will say it once more
I do think that this work holds huge potential and it makes me sad he will keep it on short side :cry:
Well, maybe not short but it could be longer for sure ;)
 
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I'm repeating myself on this one but I will say it once more
I do think that this work holds huge potential and it makes me sad he will keep it on short side :cry:
Well, maybe not short but it could be longer for sure ;)
It's a shame it's so short, man.
Who knows, maybe we can dream. Even if the developer doesn't want to prolong things too much, they could at least make some DLC.
 

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That doesn't matter, if anything that makes it worse. That shit shouldn't be possible other than on an NTR path imo.

I think this is exactly where we disagree conceptually.


In narrative terms, intention and agency are not a detail — they are the defining line between categories. NTR is about a character choosing someone else, emotionally or sexually, in a way that replaces or undermines the primary relationship.


A character being externally controlled, hypnotized, drugged, or otherwise stripped of agency is a completely different narrative mechanism. It can be disturbing, uncomfortable, or unwanted — but it is not the same thing as betrayal, replacement, or infidelity, because there is no will behind it.


You can absolutely say “I don’t want to see loss-of-agency content at all”, and that’s a fair preference. But calling it NTR collapses two very different narrative logics into one label.


And just to be clear — I don’t like NTR myself, and I even avoid the NTS options in this game as long as they stay optional. So I’m not defending this from a fetish angle, but from a narrative one.


So yes — it does matter, because intention is what defines whether a story is about a character turning away from someone, or about something being done to them against their will.
 
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So then let's add 'Rape' (or sexual assault is more accurate if that's even a tag) as a tag then, because that's what it is.
 
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