Morality of the MC (specifically male, but females too)

NdinguSuya

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I don't know if I'm the only one who things like this but when I play a game I really don't care about the morality of the main character as long as he ain't getting cucked. He could do some of the most questionable things or be the most wholesome dude. As long as the story and/or art is good I'm playing. I'm not shaming anyone but I don't get the appeal of playing from the POV of the guy getting cheated on. What do y'all think
 
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tanstaafl

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I don't know if I'm the only one who things like this but when I play a game I really don't care about the morality of the main character as long as he ain't getting cucked. He could do some of the most questionable things or be the most wholesome dude. As long as the story and/or art is good I'm playing. I'm not shaming anyone but I don't get the appeal of playing from the POV of the guy getting cheated on. What do y'all think
Oddly enough, morality of the MC is either very important or completely unimportant, depending on what the story is and who the MC is. I harp on this enough, but a moral, upstanding, likable young popular kid that face fucks his mother while she's asleep is called inconsistent writing.
 

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At first I thought this would be something like making choices in games, or some Bioware type morality system or having to play as a bad guy... but maybe it's a disguised anti-NTR post? I don't know!

But I don't mind being the one being cheated on in games. This may be due to the fact that like 99% of them are the guys who are getting cheated on by the girl getting it on with other guys, or you play as the girl getting it on with other guys, and I'm down for that. I don't mind women taking control of some situations, plus there is usually no given reason in these things and maybe the MC is dumb as rocks or there is just this "well looks like it's 8 o'clock- that's cheatin' time!" and they just go about doing it and there is rare consequences of matter.

Maybe it doesn't bother me due to gender, and I understand that. If I were a guy and I was playing a male main I would want to have that perfect happy life where the girl loves me. Of course there are lots and lots of games/stories that do exactly that- so it's not like it's a concept or theme that is somehow lacking in any way. So perhaps because the MC is mostly a guy in these cases, I don't care as much.

Also there is rarely any good thought or internal emotional struggle depicted so it's not like I can get insight from a male perspective. It's usually just a long line of "oh shit I think she's cheating, I'm so mad!" and that usually devolves into "well guess I'll just take advantage of it and be a voyeur or creep on them while I secretly enjoy this bad thing happening to me." which I'm sure is not the male insight in these situations, but it is the video game one!
 

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I'm going to ignore the sniping at NTR fans.

As a fan of trainer and other male PoV corruption games. I always find it very strange when the narrative makes moves to set the MC up as a "good guy".

Nah, I am playing out a fantasy where the character does bad things, just let them be bad.
 
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Caring a lot about the result (getting cheated on) while being totally disinterested in the cause (a total lack of care for how his own behavior affects others) is the issue clawing its way through.

Also there is rarely any good thought or internal emotional struggle depicted so it's not like I can get insight from a male perspective. It's usually just a long line of "oh shit I think she's cheating, I'm so mad!" and that usually devolves into "well guess I'll just take advantage of it and be a voyeur or creep on them while I secretly enjoy this bad thing happening to me." which I'm sure is not the male insight in these situations, but it is the video game one!
Oh it definitely is. In their mind even a girl cheating on them is for them. She never cheats on him with a guy who treats her better, either, it's just a guy who has a bigger dick and more muscles. In their mind that's what they did wrong.

That's why NTR is usually really boring.
 

NdinguSuya

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another anti-ntr thread. it's a ritual to hate on ntr now :cautious:
Yeah it was off topic but I just couldn't hold myself....like I said shaming wasn't my intent but the problem is that when someone tells me they LIKE something, I always like to see what exactly it is they like about said thing but NTR is different. And the more I try to understand why it's liked the more I don't like it which kinda fries. But it's video games and we all tryna chase the nut....we just take different approaches
 
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NdinguSuya

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At first I thought this would be something like making choices in games, or some Bioware type morality system or having to play as a bad guy... but maybe it's a disguised anti-NTR post? I don't know!

But I don't mind being the one being cheated on in games. This may be due to the fact that like 99% of them are the guys who are getting cheated on by the girl getting it on with other guys, or you play as the girl getting it on with other guys, and I'm down for that. I don't mind women taking control of some situations, plus there is usually no given reason in these things and maybe the MC is dumb as rocks or there is just this "well looks like it's 8 o'clock- that's cheatin' time!" and they just go about doing it and there is rare consequences of matter.

Maybe it doesn't bother me due to gender, and I understand that. If I were a guy and I was playing a male main I would want to have that perfect happy life where the girl loves me. Of course there are lots and lots of games/stories that do exactly that- so it's not like it's a concept or theme that is somehow lacking in any way. So perhaps because the MC is mostly a guy in these cases, I don't care as much.

Also there is rarely any good thought or internal emotional struggle depicted so it's not like I can get insight from a male perspective. It's usually just a long line of "oh shit I think she's cheating, I'm so mad!" and that usually devolves into "well guess I'll just take advantage of it and be a voyeur or creep on them while I secretly enjoy this bad thing happening to me." which I'm sure is not the male insight in these situations, but it is the video game one!
Yeah I think it's coz both MC and the LI are just not that intelligent. I know I'm biased but I got no problems with female pov NTR. But I just don't like playing as the dude getting cucked coz the dialogue just doesn't turn my gears yk coz it's just the bull and his gf shaming bro.

Maybe it doesn't bother me due to gender, and I understand that. If I were a guy and I was playing a male main I would want to have that perfect happy life where the girl loves me.
It doesn't have to be vanilla where they love each tho. Like I said morality don't matter that much to me
 

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Moral female: Good start for MC-corruption
Immoral female: Good for NPC corruption with / without sexualizing MC
Immoral male: Good for NPC corruption with a masculine edge, but in this case I prefer more elemental MC-types. Demon lord, champion of corruption, orc warlord etc. Not a complex character whose feelings / past get a lot of attention.
Moral male: Only good as collateral damage
 

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Let me start by saying that I've done many things in video games that I would never ever do in real life. But even in these situations where I'm playing a character of low morals, I can try to make my own morality come through. Because the main character is me, after all.

I would never capture girls for sex slavery, but if I were that type of person, I certainly wouldn't be a jerk about it!
(I ignore anyone with children, or who's married or engaged)
 

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Let me start by saying that I've done many things in video games that I would never ever do in real life. But even in these situations where I'm playing a character of low morals, I can try to make my own morality come through. Because the main character is me, after all.

I would never capture girls for sex slavery, but if I were that type of person, I certainly wouldn't be a jerk about it!
(I ignore anyone with children, or who's married or engaged)
I find it funny that somehow you had to indicate that you would never enslave women as sex toys. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that random fact that it had to come up... but thank you for your honor and all the women you have not enslaved in your life as you pass them on the streets. :ROFLMAO:

Exactly!


However in most games about this the MC and LI are both dumb as rocks. The guy tends to be super weak willed and has heavy voyeur tendencies, and the woman just turns into a slut after some breast gropes and uoon seeing a big dick.

I always find that amusing because it's like this showcasing of a dick, and maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, but just seeing a dick does not exactly fill me with horny power. In fact I'm usually turned off and could be upset about it. I have to be in the mood, and I genuinely like the rest of the package too. Like if a dude was just wearing boxers or something with their thumb in the hem tugging it down enough that I can just see the top of the penis- super fucking hot. But if you just whip it out it's a lot less hot.

Anyhow thanks for my Ted talk on why it's dumb for women to just go turbo slut be an obnoxious stranger flashed their junk to her.
 

MissCougar

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Oh it definitely is. In their mind even a girl cheating on them is for them. She never cheats on him with a guy who treats her better, either, it's just a guy who has a bigger dick and more muscles. In their mind that's what they did wrong.

That's why NTR is usually really boring.
Totally agree here too. I've said this a bunch also.

These stories can only be as good as the author is and how much experience they have in life. That's why you always see certain tropes, like the rich guy is always bad, the boss of whichever character is always bad, people in authority are always abusive, and the size of a dick is the onky characteristic that makes a woman throw everything away at the drop of a hat.

I totally understand that there is just a life experience issue at play, but it makes 95% of these themes very... well worn.

Once you see the best friend who is sporting sunglasses, or is an ugly bastard, or has a bad attitude or is heavily misogynistic and seems like the kind of guy women would avoid- you instantly know that is going to be the guy who steals the woman inexplicably.

It almost never makes sense, but it's written by a person who may not understand women like personality, confidence, presence and intelligence. These may be things they themselves have not fully experienced, or had past woman issues, and it can't be them or their possibly bad attitude- it must be some physical limitation that women just need to have elsewhere!
 

tanstaafl

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Once you see the best friend who is sporting sunglasses, or is an ugly bastard, or has a bad attitude or is heavily misogynistic and seems like the kind of guy women would avoid- you instantly know that is going to be the guy who steals the woman inexplicably.
You missed the most dangerous archetype of all, the MCs own father. There's a reason that more than half of all harem game MCs are orphans, have amnesia, or their dad dies to kick off the story.
 
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seifukulover

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I only brought that game up because it's the most recent example of a game I've played with a depraved MC. My point is that I do think about the morality of the MC when playing these games, so I'll usually try to make them as palatable as possible.
 

tanstaafl

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I only brought that game up because it's the most recent example of a game I've played with a depraved MC. My point is that I do think about the morality of the MC when playing these games, so I'll usually try to make them as palatable as possible.
To expand on my point that it entirely depends on the MC, the story, and how he or she is written...would you watch Deadpool and worry about his morality? Or would you expect or ignore the holy shit fucked up things he says and does?
 
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I'll prefer if he gets cucked instead where he kidnaps his LI, contains her in prison, starves her so he can train her, tortures her, rapes her, impregnates her and sells the babies to slave house, and after she is fully tamed he lets her get out on a leash and have strangers have their way with her(optionally)

Yes, this is a game.

Yes, there might be something like this on third-person perspective on NTR games, it irks me regardless, but probably less so, as I can clearly see them as the antagonist. But also depends on execution, if I have to give example I don't think Something Unlimited is that emotionally impactful, even though it can be considered on similar levels.
 
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