VN Others Completed Muv-Luv Photonmelodies♮ [Final] [5pb. Games]

[Ombra]

Fools, sex is part of story it is a required element to bond with others. Censoring it because of country or platform rules only limits its potential. I'll patiently wait for the patch or start improving my japanese.

 

[sunkenfleet]

People are fucking strange here... Saying some shit like "H-scenes weren't important at all in the original"
Original? You mean the game where the only headache for the mc is to choose one of the girls, start dating her and eventually fuck her at the end. Are we all talking about the same game?
Yeah, I perfectly understand that Alternative changed tone of the game, it's not just a dating sim anymore. But still, H-scenes there quite important. What about the development of relationships between the characters, is it not important anymore? I think that this is a natural development of the relationship between two people and at the same time a logical culmination.
All I wanted was for them to release 18+ version of Altered Fable, especially after that sadistic mind-fucking game like Alternative.

This is a really ancient argument but I feel like most people would argue that a game like Muv Luv is not focused around sex at all and that the h-scenes really aren't important. Like sure, the 'reward' you get once you reach the ostensible 'goal' of completing one of the heroines' routes is a sex scene or two. But, can you really call a scene that take 10 minutes to read at the tail end of a 10 hour route 'important' to the route? A scene that you could easily cut with a fade to black and not alter the story in any way?

Just take a look at any of the games on the front page of this site. Those are the kinds of games where the 'h-scenes are quite important', okay? Like if such an obvious contrast didn't exsist people wouldn't say anything but there is a clear difference between a 40 hour VN that happens to have one or two h-scenes at the end, and, you know, actual overt porn games where the h-scenes are the only content. In a VN the h-scenes are kind of not the point at all and most VNs wouldn't suffer without them.

 

[GamingSavant]

Altered Fable without the sex is kinda weird, because it even put in the beach setting with all the heroines in swimsuits, and included Meiya's sister Yuuhi as a heroine too. Oh well, wait for the adult patch I guess lol

 

[AnonFromInnerSpace]

But, can you really call a scene that take 10 minutes to read at the tail end of a 10 hour route 'important' to the route?

Yes, the person you just quoted provided you an argument you didn't answer to. Those "10 minutes" is the culmination of your relationship with the heroine you've chosen. Sex is pretty much the most important thing in a relationship, that's pretty much why 99% of humanity entertains the idea of a romantic relationship.

Which is why he's right that everyone here talking about how "sex isn't important in muv luv" is just weird. All games had the hentai part. It's fine to like it without, that doesn't mean it's somehow "right" for there to not be any, like it's the "true way".

 

[Hitaragi]

This is a really ancient argument but I feel like most people would argue that a game like Muv Luv is not focused around sex at all and that the h-scenes really aren't important. Like sure, the 'reward' you get once you reach the ostensible 'goal' of completing one of the heroines' routes is a sex scene or two. But, can you really call a scene that take 10 minutes to read at the tail end of a 10 hour route 'important' to the route? A scene that you could easily cut with a fade to black and not alter the story in any way?

Just take a look at any of the games on the front page of this site. Those are the kinds of games where the 'h-scenes are quite important', okay? Like if such an obvious contrast didn't exsist people wouldn't say anything but there is a clear difference between a 40 hour VN that happens to have one or two h-scenes at the end, and, you know, actual overt porn games where the h-scenes are the only content. In a VN the h-scenes are kind of not the point at all and most VNs wouldn't suffer without them.

Oh look at this highbrow individual who thinks that part of a story and character development are not important cus in this scene, they have boobies in it.
Did you ever play Deardrops(30h), If My Heart Had Wings(50h), Kara no Shoujo(30h) or it least Dies Irae(50h) ?
It is a lot of games out there that don't concentrate on h-scenes but they are still important as a part of the story.
And by the way, are you trying to cosplay doctor Pavlov or some shit? Talking about some staff like 'reward', not everything revolves around jerking off, its not the point of these scenes. It is quite immature to think that way.
But what that I know right? I am not some high intellectual person who is a true fan of the game, am I right?
PS: If someone tries to tell me that the plot is very important in Altered Fable and the whole point of the game is not about datesiming girls and having hentai fanservice, you're either stupid or mentally ill.

 

[MrNTR]

A sequel to Muv Luv Alternative? You mean it'll just go back to the generic harem setting? No thanks. Although I actually did enjoy the original Muv Luv, the characters were pretty amusing.

 

[geenius3ab]

Will this give me the feels because I don't want feel them feels again By feels I mean people dying horribly

Not too sure about other stories, but altered fable is meant to be a therapy to what happened. So it should be OK at least on that front.

 

[eventualdream36]

I still dont really understand what's going on in this series.

Cute game to PSTD game.

 

[Dlord219]

Now i have to play both Altered Fable and Photonmelodies at the same time for h-scene or wait for some nice translate team for a full translated Altered Fable !

 

[sunkenfleet]

Oh look at this highbrow individual who thinks that part of a story and character development are not important cus in this scene, they have boobies in it.
Did you ever play Deardrops(30h), If My Heart Had Wings(50h), Kara no Shoujo(30h) or it least Dies Irae(50h) ?
It is a lot of games out there that don't concentrate on h-scenes but they are still important as a part of the story.
And by the way, are you trying to cosplay doctor Pavlov or some shit? Talking about some staff like 'reward', not everything revolves around jerking off, its not the point of these scenes. It is quite immature to think that way.
But what that I know right? I am not some high intellectual person who is a true fan of the game, am I right?
PS: If someone tries to tell me that the plot is very important in Altered Fable and the whole point of the game is not about datesiming girls and having hentai fanservice, you're either stupid or mentally ill.

lol you are making my point, not yours. All of those 30, 40, 50 hour+ games could have the sex scenes entirely cut out, or slightly retooled so that any important 'character moments' in those scenes still happen just in a different context, or just turned into a fade to black - with zero loss in the overall structural integrity of the story. Because, just like you said, the point of these kinds of games is not the sex.

I'm not trying to be an 'intellectual' or a 'true fan' or whatever garbage here, I'm just making the (what I feel to be pretty self-evident) statement that a game like Fate/Stay Night or Muv Luv sell sex, sure, but they don't sell sex in remotely the same way as a game like... *checks front page* ... "Goblin Burrow".

 

[Hitaragi]

lol you are making my point, not yours. All of those 30, 40, 50 hour+ games could have the sex scenes entirely cut out, or slightly retooled so that any important 'character moments' in those scenes still happen just in a different context, or just turned into a fade to black - with zero loss in the overall structural integrity of the story. Because, just like you said, the point of these kinds of games is not the sex.

I'm not trying to be an 'intellectual' or a 'true fan' or whatever garbage here, I'm just making the (what I feel to be pretty self-evident) statement that a game like Fate/Stay Night or Muv Luv sell sex, sure, but they don't sell sex in remotely the same way as a game like... *checks front page* ... "Goblin Burrow".

I mean... You just showed me that you didn't understand anything. Your argument can be applied to any game, literally any game, but this does not mean that the argument is meaningful at all. Yeah, I do not dispute that you can cut out anything from any game and replace it with anything that you want. The only problem is, why did the author include these scenes in the first place if the game was not sold at the expense of sex? It turns out that such scenes were introduced into the game for a reason is it not? Cus all these games that I listed are not Nukige, then why do they need sex scenes in the first place? Why don't they all have all ages rating or 17+?
Again it is quite immature to think that way.

 

[AnonFromInnerSpace]

the point of these kinds of games is not the sex.

It's the romantic relationships, which culminate into sex, which is the most important part of the relationships in the first place, meaning that you're wrong again.

 

[sunkenfleet]

It's the romantic relationships, which culminate into sex, which is the most important part of the relationships in the first place, meaning that you're wrong again.

okay sure you're totally right 'If My Heart Had Wings' and 'The Maiden Rape Assault - Violent Semen Inferno - are totally games in completely the same genre and you are definitely not delusional at all.

oh wait...

Actually, just because two things both have sex in them, does not mean that sex is the point of both of those things you absolute lunatic. When you say that a game focuses on 'a romantic relationship that culminates in sex' is not the same thing saying as 'the game focuses on sex'. Something having sex in it does not make that thing about sex.

Why are you even arguing this point? We're all on the same website here right? I guaran-fucking-tee you that you could show any random 100 users on this site Muv Luv and tell them it was a 'game about sex' and 100/100 of them would laugh and call you an idiot because holding down ctrl for 30 minutes to see one h-scene isn't arousing at all and everyone in this conversation knows exactly what a game that is actually 'about sex' looks like!

 

[ben akeba]

there's some realy frustrated and delusionnal virgin in this thread ><

i have a question, is there actually sexual content in the original version of photonmelodies ?
(because there's 15+ and all age only on the site, don't look like much sex going on there :X)

 

[Hitaragi]

there's some realy frustrated and delusionnal virgin in this thread ><

i have a question, is there actually sexual content in the original version of photonmelodies ?
(because there's 15+ and all age only on the site, don't look like much sex going on there :X)

Yeah, i guess i see one of them...
Altered Fable is included in the bargain, sooo yeah its have in jap version

 

[geenius3ab]

I have the original Jap version, but its ENG translation process was stopped midway through, only a couple of the routes are translated, but still have the H scenes. Kind of interested in trying it out later.

 

[DigitalDreamer_]

Male protagonist be like Lelouch Vi Britannia

 

[Ialdabaoth]

Ah yes, Muv-Luv Alternative... It exists for one thing and one thing alone.

Making Takeru as miserable as possible because of Sumika XD

 

[Gorehowk]

So, the Chronicle parts aside (because I'd have to go trough Chronicles first), is this just a part of Altered Fable? Or is this the entirety of Altered Fable, just with the H scenes cut out?

 

[Dlord219]

So, the Chronicle parts aside (because I'd have to go trough Chronicles first), is this just a part of Altered Fable? Or is this the entirety of Altered Fable, just with the H scenes cut out?

Only "Before the shimmering time ends" from Altered Fable and it have some h-scenes but photonmelodies ver is the port of it on ps3 so it have many censored scene and no h-scene.