VN Ren'Py My A-rank Witch [v0.5] [Skinny Rat Studio]

[Lady Lydia]

Where did it say she can protect them from dungeon effect? Maybe I missed it but I don't remember that.

She is a mage type. Powerful, but an A rank. It wasn't implied that she can solo the dungeon. A Mage without tank/formation to protect them is not gonna last. And the writing shifted at some point in the middle to really drive home the point that MC's knowledge and tactics was the necessary ingredient that allowed the party to become so successful. Both the S rank guy and Witch herself sees MC's contributions as something incredibly pivotal to their success.

There is enough story justification for it to be this way, and that's good enough for something that is clearly a plot device to enable porn. It's for NTR anyways. For NTS, he didn't drink it. Why do you want someone else to drink it anyways? How does that enhance the NTS aspect?

For the first point it was stated she had a sort of power to protect from dungeon effects, which was a justification for them being willing to even go for that dungeon.

For the second point, like I said it wouldn't matter if the MC got his knowledge and tactics if the others are too affected by the dungeon effect to listen to him. Him being the weakest mean he can't fight anything on his own and is wholly dependent on the others protecting and fighting for him, so yea again their is logic in having the most powerful member of the group safe.

For the third point, why do I want justification, because its a early significant plot hole, and sure its porn, but its not because its porn that the Dev has to be lazy, its just filling in the hole so people like me won't be bothered by it, if you bother to give porn a story it doesn't cost much to make sure their are no significant plot holes. As for enhancing the NTS aspect, it doesn't but it satisfy the logic of someone making use of the potion rather than letting it potentially rot when its a critical mean of protection from that dungeon. Again if given to someone like Gordok it would likely not really affect the NTS path much unless the Dev intend him to keep fucking Mia.

It also make me wonder from a logical point of view, is the NTS path even NTS, sure from an affected MC perspective it might be 'sharing' right until he leave the dungeon and suddenly start potentially feeling like shit because his girlfriend got fucked by various different people and monsters. To add to that, while its NTS from the MC's perspective, what about our own? We aren't affected by the dungeon, thus in a sense it should be actually deemed NTR. Sure their is some sharing done, but its going to clearly be done against our will since I assume the Dev has no attention to even giving us choice, so its from a practical point of view just NTR, since we won't be making the decisions of sharing ourselves.

So effectively the Dev lied on the premise of the game, its not NTR / NTS but purely NTR with one path having a completely uninvolved MC and the other having forced sharing, which isn't really sharing is it, since you have no input as the player, and as the MC you don't have a real input, its purely under the effect of the dungeon.

Thinking about it the paths instead of NTR and NTS should probably have called Beta Cuck NTR and Alpha Chad NTR, so one path with a passive MC that just get cuck, and one path with an active MC that actually is fucking around too, so at least its more fun than the Beta Cuck path, even if its either way NTR. Unless the Dev actually intend to somehow give choices on the green path for the MC to choose to be the one to fuck his girlfriend, rather than have her being fucked against his true will, which like I said is NTR under the veener of NTS, which isn't likely considering the NTR / NTS thing is marked as unavoidable.

 

[desmosome]

For the first point it was stated she had a sort of power to protect from dungeon effects, which was a justification for them being willing to even go for that dungeon.

For the second point, like I said it wouldn't matter if the MC got his knowledge and tactics if the others are too affected by the dungeon effect to listen to him. Him being the weakest mean he can't fight anything on his own and is wholly dependent on the others protecting and fighting for him, so yea again their is logic in having the most powerful member of the group safe.

For the third point, why do I want justification, because its a early significant plot hole, and sure its porn, but its not because its porn that the Dev has to be lazy, its just filling in the hole so people like me won't be bothered by it, if you bother to give porn a story it doesn't cost much to make sure their are no significant plot holes. As for enhancing the NTS aspect, it doesn't but it satisfy the logic of someone making use of the potion rather than letting it potentially rot when its a critical mean of protection from that dungeon. Again if given to someone like Gordok it would likely not really affect the NTS path much unless the Dev intend him to keep fucking Mia.

It also make me wonder from a logical point of view, is the NTS path even NTS, sure from an affected MC perspective it might be 'sharing' right until he leave the dungeon and suddenly start potentially feeling like shit because his girlfriend got fucked by various different people and monsters. To add to that, while its NTS from the MC's perspective, what about our own? We aren't affected by the dungeon, thus in a sense it should be actually deemed NTR. Sure their is some sharing done, but its going to clearly be done against our will since I assume the Dev has no attention to even giving us choice, so its from a practical point of view just NTR, since we won't be making the decisions of sharing ourselves.

So effectively the Dev lied on the premise of the game, its not NTR / NTS but purely NTR with one path having a completely uninvolved MC and the other having forced sharing, which isn't really sharing is it, since you have no input as the player, and as the MC you don't have a real input, its purely under the effect of the dungeon.

Thinking about it the paths instead of NTR and NTS should probably have called Beta Cuck NTR and Alpha Chad NTR, so one path with a passive MC that just get cuck, and one path with an active MC that actually is fucking around too, so at least its more fun than the Beta Cuck path, even if its either way NTR. Unless the Dev actually intend to somehow give choices on the green path for the MC to choose to be the one to fuck his girlfriend, rather than have her being fucked against his true will, which like I said is NTR under the veener of NTS, which isn't likely considering the NTR / NTS thing is marked as unavoidable.

I also point out blatant plot holes or inconsistencies in a lot of games I play. For you, maybe none of it makes sense, but I think you are just nitpicking. My criteria is simply if based on the story and characterizations, whether the actions are plausible. It is. Taking the potion himself since he is the brains of the group is a decision that is plausible. Opting not to take the potion so that "he can experience what his party is experiencing, thereby being able to better gauge their status," is also a plausible decision. He notes that the potion could come in handy in the future and there is no need to take it immediately.

It's a writing decision, not a plot hole or inconsistency.

 

[Bubba16]

For the first point it was stated she had a sort of power to protect from dungeon effects, which was a justification for them being willing to even go for that dungeon.

For the second point, like I said it wouldn't matter if the MC got his knowledge and tactics if the others are too affected by the dungeon effect to listen to him. Him being the weakest mean he can't fight anything on his own and is wholly dependent on the others protecting and fighting for him, so yea again their is logic in having the most powerful member of the group safe.

For the third point, why do I want justification, because its a early significant plot hole, and sure its porn, but its not because its porn that the Dev has to be lazy, its just filling in the hole so people like me won't be bothered by it, if you bother to give porn a story it doesn't cost much to make sure their are no significant plot holes. As for enhancing the NTS aspect, it doesn't but it satisfy the logic of someone making use of the potion rather than letting it potentially rot when its a critical mean of protection from that dungeon. Again if given to someone like Gordok it would likely not really affect the NTS path much unless the Dev intend him to keep fucking Mia.

It also make me wonder from a logical point of view, is the NTS path even NTS, sure from an affected MC perspective it might be 'sharing' right until he leave the dungeon and suddenly start potentially feeling like shit because his girlfriend got fucked by various different people and monsters. To add to that, while its NTS from the MC's perspective, what about our own? We aren't affected by the dungeon, thus in a sense it should be actually deemed NTR. Sure their is some sharing done, but its going to clearly be done against our will since I assume the Dev has no attention to even giving us choice, so its from a practical point of view just NTR, since we won't be making the decisions of sharing ourselves.

So effectively the Dev lied on the premise of the game, its not NTR / NTS but purely NTR with one path having a completely uninvolved MC and the other having forced sharing, which isn't really sharing is it, since you have no input as the player, and as the MC you don't have a real input, its purely under the effect of the dungeon.

Thinking about it the paths instead of NTR and NTS should probably have called Beta Cuck NTR and Alpha Chad NTR, so one path with a passive MC that just get cuck, and one path with an active MC that actually is fucking around too, so at least its more fun than the Beta Cuck path, even if its either way NTR. Unless the Dev actually intend to somehow give choices on the green path for the MC to choose to be the one to fuck his girlfriend, rather than have her being fucked against his true will, which like I said is NTR under the veener of NTS, which isn't likely considering the NTR / NTS thing is marked as unavoidable.

I believe when Mia talks about suppressing the power of the dungeon, she can only self-suppress. Her ability to quell the "heat" so to speak doesn't extend to her other party members. If Mia can already, due to her magic defend against the effects of the dungeon, it would make vastly more sense for someone other than her to get the potion, increasing the number of people not bat shit horny, thereby increasing the party's effectiveness. Ergo, in the NTR version the person who it makes the most sense to give to is the Strategist or the MC. Being able to strategize requires an unclouded thought process while fighting with a sword or fists is more akin to an instinct that you develop via training.

As for the NTS version where he doesn't take the potion... ‍ But clearly we also see that Mia overestimates her ability to suppress the dungeon's aura. If the MC takes the potion he doesn't have a way to realize this, beyond Mia getting caught. If MC doesn't take the potion, maybe it allows him to realize that Mia's suppression is insufficient because of his own experience of the effects.

 

[Rat dev]

Look I know clearly this game is designed around NTR & NTS, but one thing that bother me is, why not being able to give the potion to Mia, from a logical perspective it should absolutely been an option, she is the power hitter of the group, so if the others fall under the effect of the dungeon she could keep her head screwed right, sure it would mean she wouldn't sleep with anyone in the dungeon while the MC might have gotten some, it would have toned down the NTR & NTS, but the fact their is no reason given not to do that is logically annoying. The Dev might want to at least work in some explanation to justify not giving her the potion, something like it would have interfered with her witch powers, something else than the smart leader of the group not thinking to give said potion to his overpowered girlfriend.

Obviously come next, why not give it to anyone else? Considering the nature of the dungeon's power Leia which is already a nympho elf or Tara which is a horny kitten could have used instead of your character, or at last Gordok. Could have said it only work on males and if you don't take it, have him take it instead, it would have been funny for a horny bastard like him to be sidelined, it would still have plenty of NTS involved and not have to be bothered with the fact its either you or none that take the damn useful potion.

The plot shows several key points why MC is the only right choice for the potion.

We must take into account one important key thing - the dungeon depletes those who are there if they do not find a way to mate. Mia has a strong magical aura that slows down this process for her, which means she does not feel this effect for a longer period of time.

1. MC is the only one who has studied this dungeon thanks to the records of adventurers who have already been there. He devises a strategy for passing not only the upper floor, but also the rest. He cannot lose his concentration, otherwise they may simply get lost wandering around aimlessly.

2. MC manages the battle formation with the bosses. When they were all sitting around the campfire and getting to know each other's abilities, it was not for nothing. MC manages the battle formation by giving his comrades instructions so that their mana and strength are distributed effectively.

3. In essence, the MC's only important role in the group is to lead the group to success based on what he has studied for a very long time. If he falls under the influence of the dungeon and becomes less useful over time, it is a big problem.

In addition, the potion was given to him by the respected S rank, who personally expressed the opinion that the best solution would be for the leader of the group to drink the potion, as he would be able to make responsible decisions at important moments.

To be honest, all this could have been made much more complicated, but... Why? These early, not-so-complicated explanations are enough to make a quick decision before entering the portal. I'm not writing a book, I'm making a porn game. That doesn't mean I'm slacking off, it just means I'm not trying to make things complicated.

 

[Psycho AlexW]

Whats the short message on patreon? doesn't seem positive.

 

[Lady Lydia]

The plot shows several key points why MC is the only right choice for the potion.

We must take into account one important key thing - the dungeon depletes those who are there if they do not find a way to mate. Mia has a strong magical aura that slows down this process for her, which means she does not feel this effect for a longer period of time.

1. MC is the only one who has studied this dungeon thanks to the records of adventurers who have already been there. He devises a strategy for passing not only the upper floor, but also the rest. He cannot lose his concentration, otherwise they may simply get lost wandering around aimlessly.

2. MC manages the battle formation with the bosses. When they were all sitting around the campfire and getting to know each other's abilities, it was not for nothing. MC manages the battle formation by giving his comrades instructions so that their mana and strength are distributed effectively.

3. In essence, the MC's only important role in the group is to lead the group to success based on what he has studied for a very long time. If he falls under the influence of the dungeon and becomes less useful over time, it is a big problem.

In addition, the potion was given to him by the respected S rank, who personally expressed the opinion that the best solution would be for the leader of the group to drink the potion, as he would be able to make responsible decisions at important moments.

To be honest, all this could have been made much more complicated, but... Why? These early, not-so-complicated explanations are enough to make a quick decision before entering the portal. I'm not writing a book, I'm making a porn game. That doesn't mean I'm slacking off, it just means I'm not trying to make things complicated.

Wait the dungeon deplete people if they don't mate? I thought it was said the opposite in the game, that people that give in and mate actually grow weaker. You know like you'd expect of something themed after a Succubus. Getting drained via sex. I guess I misunderstood that much.

As for the MC being the battle formation boss, again I get it in theory, but in practice if those you are supposed to lead are too fucked up on the dungeon effect to actually follow your lead, its a problem. If the dungeon is supposed to sap their will until they fuck anything that move, clearly having the weakest member but smartest member being the only rational thinker isn't going to help much, so like I said having the most powerful member being the recipient would have made more sense, even if her power might already dilute the effect, better be safe than sorry.

As for the potion being given to by an S rank adventurer... yea... at your behest, the character state not out of a position of rationality but out of a position of being your puppet that its the 'best' decision for the outcome you want, it doesn't mean it is.

Look finally I get it its porn, you don't need to complicate it, but the problem is if anything you are the one that complicated it, Gamer Mind, its all you had to do, just make it so this Isekai character is immune to all form of mental fuckery as a special power, it would have justified everything far better, and instead of creating two completely separate paths, you could have effectively one path with both options for various situations, not completely one way or the other, thus simplifying your work, where the MC chose to either let himself those around him fuck around so NTS or inevitably getting so affected by the dungeon he'd get NTR instead, so just like Leia's husband said, you should just let your girl fuck around, the lesson being if the MC doesn't learn to give the girls some slack he'll lose them. Boom NTS and NTR in one path, less work and without requiring a dumb plot device.

 

[Rat dev]

Wait the dungeon deplete people if they don't mate? I thought it was said the opposite in the game, that people that give in and mate actually grow weaker. You know like you'd expect of something themed after a Succubus. Getting drained via sex. I guess I misunderstood that much.

As for the MC being the battle formation boss, again I get it in theory, but in practice if those you are supposed to lead are too fucked up on the dungeon effect to actually follow your lead, its a problem. If the dungeon is supposed to sap their will until they fuck anything that move, clearly having the weakest member but smartest member being the only rational thinker isn't going to help much, so like I said having the most powerful member being the recipient would have made more sense, even if her power might already dilute the effect, better be safe than sorry.

As for the potion being given to by an S rank adventurer... yea... at your behest, the character state not out of a position of rationality but out of a position of being your puppet that its the 'best' decision for the outcome you want, it doesn't mean it is.

Look finally I get it its porn, you don't need to complicate it, but the problem is if anything you are the one that complicated it, Gamer Mind, its all you had to do, just make it so this Isekai character is immune to all form of mental fuckery as a special power, it would have justified everything far better, and instead of creating two completely separate paths, you could have effectively one path with both options for various situations, not completely one way or the other, thus simplifying your work, where the MC chose to either let himself those around him fuck around so NTS or inevitably getting so affected by the dungeon he'd get NTR instead, so just like Leia's husband said, you should just let your girl fuck around, the lesson being if the MC doesn't learn to give the girls some slack he'll lose them. Boom NTS and NTR in one path, less work and without requiring a dumb plot device.

I won't try to argue, you seem to be absolutely convinced that you are right, so there is no point in presenting arguments.
You see how things can be done ‘better’ and I have nothing against that, but I think it would be fair to let me do things the way I want to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Cityoftree]

I won't try to argue, you seem to be absolutely convinced that you are right, so there is no point in presenting arguments.
You see how things can be done ‘better’ and I have nothing against that, but I think it would be fair to let me do things the way I want to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I’m not sure if she’s one of your Patreon members or not. But if she isn’t, then her criticism is basically just empty talk.
Let’s put it this way: no donation, don't complaint

 

[Lady Lydia]

I’m not sure if she’s one of your Patreon members or not. But if she isn’t, then her criticism is basically just empty talk.
Let’s put it this way: no donation, don't complaint

Valid criticism isn't made invalid because money isn't involved, otherwise poor people wouldn't get to vote. So if I donated any amount to the Dev my every words should be listened to and obeyed? Because that is the premise you are implying, in which case I suppose the bidding war for who get to dictate the story is going to happen soon.

Also this is a pirate website, not fucking Patreon, if the Dev isn't going to listen to anything anyone not on Patreon says, he might as well just not bother being involved here.

 

[Lizzardcheese]

NTS rouse

Wait, I'm confused. I thought the next update was supposed to be the NTS path from the last update that never got done. But instead, we are getting another NTR update?

NTS route might not happen until NTR route is fully completed with it's own ending.
Cucks are gonna vote for Cuck stuff.
And at it's core, it's a loveless cuck game so far.

 

[Rat dev]

I’m not sure if she’s one of your Patreon members or not. But if she isn’t, then her criticism is basically just empty talk.
Let’s put it this way: no donation, don't complaint

No, no, I don't think so. I am interested in any opinion, otherwise I simply would not be so active on this site. But if my opinion is not heard, I will naturally not bang my head against a brick wall

 

[Rat dev]

NTS rouse

NTS route might not happen until NTR route is fully completed with it's own ending.
Cucks are gonna vote for Cuck stuff.
And at it's core, it's a loveless cuck game so far.

That's not right, the NTS branch will go into development after three NTR updates; it doesn't depend on the vote (the vote just decided the order, nothing more).

 

[fuffek]

Rat dev could you tell me if pregnancy is something set in stone or if it's optional stuff?

 

[Rat dev]

Rat dev could you tell me if pregnancy is something set in stone or if it's optional stuff?

In the context of the pregnancy storyline, it's too early to say. But I think it will be more likely to be tied to certain endings.

 

[transparenteffective436]

I like the context

 

[Lizzardcheese]

In the context of the pregnancy storyline, it's too early to say. But I think it will be more likely to be tied to certain endings.

Honestly a relief. Being forced to raise another man's/monster's baby would be such a downer if it was mandatory.

 

[Rat dev]

Honestly a relief. Being forced to raise another man's/monster's baby would be such a downer if it was mandatory.

I believe that such important things should be tied to a storyline where the main character is not initially opposed to raising someone else's child. Although, again, I am always in favour of variability. In the NTR storyline, in a certain branch, this is also possible without his consent. But again, this is all extremely variable.

 

[fuffek]

In the context of the pregnancy storyline, it's too early to say. But I think it will be more likely to be tied to certain endings.

Thank you for answer, I'm not a fan of pregnancy so I prefer not to see it if possible, thats why I ask if maybe it would be something optional
But if you think it's important to be added for story at some ending I guess I will not die from it

 

[SamuraiFruitPunch88]

I only want to know...will we see content with the Step-father beyond the MC's mother?

 

[Rat dev]

I only want to know...will we see content with the Step-father beyond the MC's mother?

There will be a separate NTR branch with Kold and Mia.