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It should be noted that there are many branches in the game. The NTR and NTS paths are the two main paths, but there are many branches within them. Some endings will be good for the main character and Mia, while others will be cruel, even leading to death and suffering.
I imagined Darren might die because of this; there's no way the poor MC could stay strong after losing everything again in another world. The same thing applies to the other characters, right? Like in that dream with Mia dying from the poison if the hunter dies. All I know is that I'm excited about the consequences and the deaths that could happen—torture, slavery, and whatever else comes next.

Happy endings are good, but the bad endings are what make the game realistic and fun.
 

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i feel like doing some story predictions.

the writing in this game seems to be pretty good, certainly on the level of a rpglit novel

leia has three motivations
  1. have a kid
  2. make her husband happy
  3. destroy all the witches
we know that having a kid is her primary motivation because she and her husband say so when they have no motive to lie. if the mc gets her pregnant she will also make her husband happy so seducing the mc satisfies two motivations simultaneously. mia is in the way so she needs to destroy that relationship to get at mc.

that's all clear and uncontroversial, the rest needs to be inferred

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destroy all witches

but she also has larger goal of returning to the witch hunts. leia has been with these witch killing barbarians for a long time, perhaps more than a 100 years, meaning she participated in the witch hunts. also, for some unexplained reason she has influence over the leadership of the former witch killers. my guess: leia was a bad ass witch killer back in the day. we also know leia sees mia as a type of demon that is killing her spirits and destroying her beloved forest. sadly for leia, the kingdom now views witches as decent people, not nature spirit killing demons.

mia's good nature works against leia's interests. if mia acted like her mom - seeking power above all - she would fit into the wicked witch stereotype that leia needs to restart the hunts. but it's hard to convince people to burn glinda the good witch at the stake. the one thing standing in way of glinda transforming into the wicked witch of west is her love for the mc. destroy that love, transform mia into an evil witch and leia has an excuse to restart the hunts
still with me?
leia was working with the maze boss

we know that leia can communicate over a distance and her spirits should have warned the party about the boss coming to attack. why did the boss attack without warning? why was it out it's room? the answer in the name of the boss - this is a fertility demon. leia used her communication powers to make a deal with the fertility demon: she serves up the party to the demon on platter, the boss increases leia's fertility

leia wins either way. we know from the head of the guild that if the boss is killed outside its room the party members get new powers - and one guesses that the boon for killing a fertility demon is a fertility boon. if the party prevails leia walks away with a fertility boon and she can enact the rest of her plan. if the party loses the boss rewards leia with a fertility boon anyway

but neither leia nor the boss expected a portal stone and so leia has to find new ways to destroy the love of the mc and mia
prediction: leia will spy on behalf of stray blades clan and work to get mia enslaved

not sure if she will join mia or she will invade the dreams of mc to get the info she needs to pass along to the clan. probably the latter.

anyway hope someone enjoyed my exercise in tl;dr
 
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i feel like doing some story predictions.

the writing in this game seems to be pretty good, certainly on the level of a rpglit novel

leia has three motivations
  1. have a kid
  2. make her husband happy
  3. destroy all the witches
we know that having a kid is her primary motivation because she and her husband say so when they have no motive to lie. if the mc gets her pregnant she will also make her husband happy so seducing the mc satisfies two motivations simultaneously. mia is in the way so she needs to destroy that relationship to get at mc.

that's all clear and uncontroversial, the rest needs to be inferred

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still with me?


prediction: leia will spy on behalf of stray blades clan and work to get mia enslaved

not sure if she will join mia or she will invade the dreams of mc to get the info she needs to pass along to the clan. probably the latter.

anyway hope someone enjoyed my exercise in tl;dr
It's been a long time since I've read such a good and detailed text. Congratulations! I think she could do it. Leia is very good at hiding her true intentions. Her influence is quite noticeable. I don't doubt it much, especially since that innocent little face hides a great, bloodthirsty warrior, according to my expectations. Now, about Mia's enslavement, I think so, but it's a little early yet. In the meantime, she can use Gordok to get everything she wants. G could stop being just a sex toy in her hands.

I'm sure we'll see Leia invading Darren's dreams whenever possible to extract valuable information and even play a little with his mind. Meanwhile, with so many images of Mia, she could even cause discord between them, like fights and other things. She has the power to do that, and the protagonist doesn't know much about her yet.
Let's say she gets everything she wants, and what if there's a twist where she develops feelings for the protagonist?
And with her pulling the strings, she could have him as her second husband. With her pregnant with the protagonist's child, this would connect them, and somehow Darren would be too busy to remember Mia or anyone else he knew.

That sneaky alpha is doing well in achieving her goals; we know she can easily prevent an attack long before it happens.
It's great that you made it much clearer for me with this excellent analysis, and in the end she would have gotten the fertility bonus anyway. XD

All I know is that, for me, among all the characters, Leia has the best powers to mess with everyone's heads and make them relive things that have already happened or will happen, etc. I confess that even though I like Mia, I'm much more interested in the elf, she's already the ace up her sleeve.
For my goals in the NTR branch with the complete corruption of Mia.
 

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Honestly? I want a harem ending. My stance is why reveal that the cat lady is a virgin if you're not going to offer the chance for the MC to be the one who takes it?

Though obviously there will also be more negative paths where the MC sees her losing it to someone else, but I want the happy ending where he gets both of the girls.
 

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It should be noted that there are many branches in the game. The NTR and NTS paths are the two main paths, but there are many branches within them. Some endings will be good for the main character and Mia, while others will be cruel, even leading to death and suffering.
could you remove death part if possible, corruption and suffering seems fine byt if possible no death
 
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Honestly? I want a harem ending. My stance is why reveal that the cat lady is a virgin if you're not going to offer the chance for the MC to be the one who takes it?

Though obviously there will also be more negative paths where the MC sees her losing it to someone else, but I want the happy ending where he gets both of the girls.
No problem, we'll have that. We can even have happy endings with both of them. That confession she made to Darren in the last update made it pretty clear that it's possible if you say yes to her.
 
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Of course, the ideal would be to hire professional translators. But lets be real, for a niche or indie game, that is often just not financially possible. In that situation, using AI for translation is not about laziness. It is pretty much the only way to get the game in front of some kind of international audience. And for many players who are not comfortable with English, even that is a real convenience.

This leads to the real question: how exactly is the developer supposed to fix all the translation errors by themselves? It is not like a single person knows all 8+ languages the game is translated into. Without feedback from the community, it is practically impossible. So instead of just complaining, it would be much more productive to point out specific mistakes. That way, it actually helps everyone.
Then let him remove these shitty translations and leave only English, and that’s it, otherwise it’s not a translation, but just mouse droppings, as he ironically said, that the author is a mouse, ahaha.
 

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NTR branches are spicy and delicious, but I believe the "Kold" branch has the potential to be one of the best.
After rejecting Leia and Gordok's help, I got excited about this future content, even more so when I remembered the MC's mother's involvement in Mia's corruption. And if it all starts at their house, it's a perfect start. If it's as I'm thinking.

My idea would be for the stepfather to hatch the first plan to conquer Mia's pussy! A good start would be after midnight, a wild tryst between Kold and the MC's mother, just to attract someone curious and wanting to be well and truly fucked.:p
After the dungeon adventure, they would return home to rest and hatch new plans, followed by a family dinner with some games. Later that night, with Darren asleep, Mia would get aroused and have trouble sleeping, and then she would hear loud moans. From her mother-in-law's room, Mia would try not to peek, but her desires—her curiosity—would be stronger. Details of the moments before dinner, Kold... would know about the potion; the events in the dungeon itself would be a meticulously crafted plan to make her suffer from excitement and a desire to "participate mentally".
But in the end she could suppress all of that, as she did, by imagining the lizard. That would only be the first step in the Kold+Mia branch.

This is just my personal wish; I know the author has much more exciting events planned for them in the future.
Given the quality and good ideas on the main routes, we will hardly be dissatisfied.

I almost forgot, for those who like bad consequences like me, this branch could have one of the worst endings since it might involve the protagonist's mother. :WeSmart:
I'll say it again, this game is a goldmine with many possibilities, both good and bad, at each ending. In the end, Kold would have both for himself, but there could be a variation where Darren accepts being a cuckold observer.
 
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thanks

especially since that innocent little face hides a great, bloodthirsty warrior
this dev does seem to understand the importance of foreshadowing. i think we get first clue that's she's a villian when the mc is sickened by her powers. the player doesn't have to the choice to have the mc enjoy the invasion of his mind because the dev wants the player to understand this is nonconsent, not cnc

i thnk we get a second helping of foreshadowing when tara says "good thing the witch isn't against us, right"?

do you not watch horror movies tara? you don't say things like that

i actually hope the dev puts the ugly fat bastard branch on the back burner and just focuses on gordok for now. when dev time is split between branches the dev time increases. we still need the nts path.

good girl gone bad did this right by completely finishing one path and releasing the niche routes as dlcs
 
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this dev does seem to understand the importance of foreshadowing. i think we get first clue that's she's a villian when the mc is sickened by her powers. the player doesn't have to the choice to have the mc enjoy the invasion of his mind because the dev wants the player to understand this is nonconsent, not cnc

i thnk we get a second helping of foreshadowing when tara says "good thing the witch isn't against us, right"?

do you not watch horror movies tara? you don't say things like that

i actually hope the dev puts the ugly fat bastard branch on the back burner and just focuses on gordok for now. when dev time is split between branches the dev time increases. we still need the nts path.

good girl gone bad did this right by completely finishing one path and releasing the niche routes as dlcs
In my opinion, Darren has a power far more important than brute strength; healing is a pure and good ability, so it makes sense that he feels bad about it invading his mind.
He may not be at that high level yet, but the protagonist's powers... could surprise us. If Darren manages to reach S or SSS rank, YES, I believe he can reach godhood level; otherwise, it wouldn't make sense for him to have been born in another world just to reach S rank. His powers protect him somewhat from Leia's influence, although it's not that strong yet, but at least a little. All of this is interesting, it could happen. Or in a different way than we think/imagine.

The Kold branch could offer some cool BDSM content through scenes with the MC's mother. If the developer were to mess with that, it would be better with some monster characters in a possible DLC; that's more reasonable. The protagonist's family needs to be a central point of the plot, or at least a part of it, since Gordok Kai, Leia, and Tara will certainly have a good amount of content along with the two MCs, so Kold will be a deliciously dangerous plot, full of betrayals, with many good and bad possibilities that can arise from it. I say this because it's difficult to find content where someone from the family steals the protagonist's girlfriend. This branch is what I'm most eagerly waiting for.

Rato, as far as I remember, has already decided how it will be, but if there are too many characters and that gets in the way, he can simply make a DLC with some monsters without affecting the most important characters.
 
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Well, the goddess Ilias can always lend Darrian a hand, right? Helping him gain power with her divine influence. I only mention her because I like her design. Bob XP xD

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Absolutely, and that bastard has to accept her help, otherwise I'll ruin his life. :LOL:
It was good, lol, there's no way you can't like its design. After this, I'm going to Google and like some of her stuff.
 
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Absolutely, and that bastard has to accept her help, otherwise I'll ruin his life. :LOL:
It was good, lol, there's no way you can't like its design. After this, I'm going to Google and like some of her stuff.
If you want, I can send you the game so you can play it. I'll send it to you privately. The character is Ilias Goddess, and yes, she really is a goddess.


Edit: It seems I can't send private messages. Oh well, I'll leave it in a spoiler.


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If you want, I can send you the game so you can play it. I'll send it to you privately. The character is Ilias Goddess, and yes, she really is a goddess.


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Thanks for the pictures, I already like it. She reminds me a little of Leia. :love:
 

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It would be hard for him to reach S or higher though. Isn't he just C rank right now? He carries other party member with his knowledge and strategy but on his own he can't really fight or even heal very well. I think he can carry a party to S rank for sure, but his own rank would be limited.
my guess is that one of the keys to understanding the story is that people develop new powers when they beat level bosses outside their lair. opens up the possibility of nts sex god path or a ntr back to romance path. because this dev seems to like the magic dick story the mc might want to defeat a level boss named priapus giaganticus so he can get back his groove and recapture the heart of his corrputed witch

could lead to all sorts of drama if he puts the lives of his party at risk just for chance to get his girlfriend back

Its one of my major issues with NTR the idea that a big dick and 'animalistic pleasure' trump love, care and affection. All those games with the big dicked Chad stealing the girl that had been in a relationship for years with a loving & caring partner is a very masculine delusion.
i think Lady Lydia is right about this by the way. sometimes the magic dick story is a masculine delusion and sometimes it's an expression of homosexual desire. all the size queens i've known were men. in either case it's a very masculine fantasy

you know a great "ntr" story that didn't have that aspect? shogun on hulu. mariko cheats with a classic ntr bull: a hairy, crude, illerate, amoral barbarian with bad hygine. but she doesn't get seduced by the magic dick she falls for him because he is the only person who sees her as a person and not as a woman, a member of a disgraced household or a poltical chess peice. mariko's feelings for john are very similar to mia's feelings for mc. the mc is the only one who sees her as a person and not as a witch or a sex object

it would be interesting to see the elf husband become the bull on some path. perhaps a spurned tara could find love in the arms of the sensitive cook and steal her away from leia
 
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This conversation piqued my interest, I'd pay to see the MC try to defeat a boss with enormous sexual powers between his legs, in order to win Mia back.
He could easily snatch her from the clutches of a group of ogres. It's a joke, he'd get beaten up haha. The lizard would be better competition, that first one who played with Mia. A group of ogres would be dangerous for Darren, but I think he'd die trying. :unsure:

But he might be able to compete with Gordok or Kold, which would be a little easier for him.
Finally, seeing him willing to put the group in danger to win back the heart of his little witch would be a good plot for the game. We can imagine endless good and bad situations happening to Mia, Darren, and the others in the group.
The battles, the sex scenes, the mystery, the danger—we're going to have a lot of fun here!

I have an idea with Mia getting a little stronger, yes, she already has a Rank A, but why not make her even stronger?
She's a good witch, setting aside her coldness, but she could change over time in the dungeon and because of the events that might happen, especially if Darren... In great danger, Mia might be capable of anything to protect him, just as she tries to do for the witch and wizard community, since those two things are the only things that matter to her in that world.

It's always good to have different options besides simply defeating or spilling the blood of each stage's bosses to obtain their powers. And continuing with "Stronger Mia," how could she acquire these simple powers? Some monsters could transmit them to her through sex. The same would apply to the rest of the group, if that were possible. And to obtain these powers, the girls and boys would have to endure some good, wild sex, and whoever faints or gets tired first loses, just like Gordok does with the girls he picks up. :WeSmart:

My style is a bit peculiar and funny, but if anyone here laughs, my long text was worth it.
 
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I forgot about precious Darren; he can level up quickly with the help of some succubus or any other strong female monster, or even the Ogre tribe must have at least one daughter, sister, or something of their chief over there. It wouldn't be so easy because he loves Mia, but we would manage. The powers would be guaranteed
 
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I imagined Darren might die because of this; there's no way the poor MC could stay strong after losing everything again in another world. The same thing applies to the other characters, right? Like in that dream with Mia dying from the poison if the hunter dies. All I know is that I'm excited about the consequences and the deaths that could happen—torture, slavery, and whatever else comes next.

Happy endings are good, but the bad endings are what make the game realistic and fun.
Bad endings aren't realistic, look at our world, WW1? Good guys won, WW2? Good guys won, Cold War? The Soviets lost, if anything the worst of the two sides. Look at history and you'll notice that the good guys won more often than not when morals were actually in the balance, and if they lost it was temporary until the bad guys lost anyway. Notice how we reached the 21st century and the world is still standing fine? Sure there are some wars, but look at Ukraine, its still standing, everyone thought Russia would slam dunk them with their massive numerical superiority, but instead it still can't win. So yea, bad endings aren't realistic, sure happy endings aren't quite realistic either, more often than not its somewhere in between, but bad is just a bit more common than good. And bad endings being 'fun' maybe for a minority, but for the majority of people that aren't sadists or masochists, bad endings sucks. We don't read a story to see the hero ultimately fail, we read a story to see the hero ultimately succeed.
 
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Bad endings aren't realistic, look at our world
1. ntr fans often have a very cynical view of the world. statements like "nice guys don't win" are often said by the mcs of these game

2. ntr fans often have very traditional views of gender relations and relationship patterns. this is especially true for ntr fans who dislike nts

3. many ntr fans only want games that stick to original formula. for them changing the outline of the story is like adding an extra line to a haiku. if it's not ugly fat bastard, non consent, "good guy" husband, tragic outcome with feelngs of pain and loss you've ruined the art form. i have lots of thoughts on why this is

i see you have commented on love and jealousy - that's the game that first got me interested in the kink. but note that he had to loudly proclaim that people who want the unaltered formula to be applied would be disappointed. (incidentally i think he nailed the psychology of the typical ntr mc)

[mods i am not trying to discuss another game, i promise]

that's what you are ultimately arguing against. if the "ntr always needs to follow the og japanese formula" fans were to agree with you then ntr would no longer get them hot

like you i want to want to see the hero's journey. i want the mc and mia to push against their traditional views of relationship patterns and grow as people. hoping for a poly / swinger / group sex lifestyle ending where the heroes prevail.
 
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1. ntr fans often have a very cynical view of the world. statements like "nice guys don't win" are often said by the mcs of these game

2. ntr fans often have very traditional views of gender relations and relationship patterns. this is especially true for ntr fans who dislike nts

3. many ntr fans only want games that stick to original formula. for them changing the outline of the story is like adding an extra line to a haiku. if it's ugly fat bastard, non consent, "good guy" husband, tragic outcome with feelngs of pain and loss you've ruined the art form. i have lots of thoughts on why this is

i see you have commented on love and jealousy - that's the game that first got me interested in the kink. but note that he had to loudly proclaim that people who want the unaltered formula to be applied would be disappointed. (incidentally i think he nailed the psychology of the typical ntr mc)

[mods i am not trying to discuss another game, i promise]

that's what you are ultimately arguing against. if the "ntr always needs to follow the og japanese formula" fans were to agree with you then ntr would no longer get them hot

like you i want to want to see the hero's journey. i want the mc and mia to push against their traditional views of relationship patterns and grow as people. hoping for a poly / swinger / group sex lifestyle ending where the heroes prevail.
Yea I agree with you completely the NTR crowd have a very skewed perception of reality, and the fact that NTR isn't typically used in a way to make it part of what amount to the hero's journey is to me aggravating, what is the point to a long narrative if its only to end badly? At this point just write stories that are the end results of such narrative skipping everything else, Hell what they embrace isn't even really the 'og Japanese formula', its basically a very Western misery porn version, I doubt what they consider NTR is considered NTR by Japaneses, just like what most of the Westerners consider foreign food tend to be either stuff that has been very adapted to the Westerners tastes or stuff that was outright made out to be foreign but isn't.
 
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