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If we look at the choice from the point of view of the potion's usefulness, the main character also faces an internal dilemma. Drinking the potion means protecting yourself from unknown influences and trying to make the right, balanced decisions.
On the other hand, not drinking the potion means feeling how the succubus's mana affects you, so you can better understand the state of your companions and, from this point of view, make certain decisions as a leader.
 

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I mean, it would when he realizes Mia is no longer herself in the dungeon. She is going to be consumed with desire and need release. Release he can't give her. In order to help her, he is going to have to give in to make sure she can perform her best, by getting her the relief she needs.

It could still absolutely lead to NTS. He's already had plenty of talks with people who have open relationships or share their significant others (at the camp), so it's not a foreign concept to him. He knows he is going to have to do something, or else she is going to seek out relief on her own and he'll lose her. Thus, for the time they are in the dungeon, trusting his party to take care of each other when needed.
You're looking at it from the perspective that the main character MUST learn about Mia's new depravity, but the plot won't be solely focused on passing through the dungeon, where such an outcome is more likely. They will go beyond the dungeon, which will already be shown in 0.5.
 
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Because the main character wants to create a happy family with Mia, have children and live out his life in a family circle, NTS relationships do not fit into this concept.
He also doesn't seem to realize that she doesn't love him (ntr route). I think that's what the NTR branch so far (i know its a tiny bit into it only) needs. He's in love with her, she "loves" him. He cant have sex for a while so she cheats (masturbation is totally a thing). And disproves all the love she lied about. You cant fully love somebody and cheat. She's using him. She might like him a bit but there is no love at all left.

The issue with a lot NTR games is the forced pretend love the girl supposedly still has for her boyfriend/husband. Or he still has for her once he finds out. Few games call out the girl, fewer let you leave her. Most you forgive and it still goes on and the ending says you're "happy".

No consequences are what ruin most of em for me. Of course the option to do nothing should definitely be there., but consequences should be equally there.
 

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I mean, HAD a great relationship. NTR/NTS kinda disproves that whole sentence.

But real question, with MC being capable is there a possible revenge sub-route on the NTR branch eventually? He can finally snap and easily kill her or her many lovers for the betrayal. I'd play the hell out of that branch. Hoping at least there isnt a "he forgives her and they start a family but his kids probably arnt his kids because she's still a giant slut" forced ending on the NTR path.

Overall the story was pretty good, a bit of a fast jump from "I'm your shield" to her mesmerized by a cock then sucking something off a tiny bit later.

Art is pretty good for AI, consistent which is great. Definitely something to keep an eye on.
In fact, anything is possible, my friend, but please remember that this is an NTR/NTS game, with all the charms and (problems) of this genre. We are still in the very early stages of development, but in the future I will be able to add more meaning to this game.
 

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He also doesn't seem to realize that she doesn't love him (ntr route).
Yeah.... I haven't got to that yet lol. As I said in my post, I was still playing and just got to that NTR/NTS choice. That is what my comment was based on, nothing after that.

So................ didn't know that information yet lol.
 
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You're looking at it from the perspective that the main character MUST learn about Mia's new depravity, but the plot won't be solely focused on passing through the dungeon, where such an outcome is more likely. They will go beyond the dungeon, which will already be shown in 0.5.
He doesn't need to learn about it; he already knows about it. He knows the effects that the dungeon will have on her. He knows that his hands/fingers and tongue can only relieve so much. He can't give her what she is craving most, so... desperate times call for desperate measures.

It would be for the good of the party basically.
 

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He also doesn't seem to realize that she doesn't love him (ntr route). I think that's what the NTR branch so far (i know its a tiny bit into it only) needs. He's in love with her, she "loves" him. He cant have sex for a while so she cheats (masturbation is totally a thing). And disproves all the love she lied about. You cant fully love somebody and cheat. She's using him. She might like him a bit but there is no love at all left.

The issue with a lot NTR games is the forced pretend love the girl supposedly still has for her boyfriend/husband. Or he still has for her once he finds out. Few games call out the girl, fewer let you leave her. Most you forgive and it still goes on and the ending says you're "happy".

Why are you focusing on the scene where she masturbates another being, and not noticing the circumstances that led to it? If this were a vanilla romantic story, then it would indeed be strange, but this is not a vanilla story at all. The circumstances are completely different, and the story leads to NTR, not romance. But that doesn't negate Mia's feelings for the main character.
Why did she do it? It's briefly described in the story, in her thoughts, in what she's thinking about. But if that's not enough, I can explain in more detail.

The Succubus Dungeon is a big expedition that they have all been preparing for a very long time, it is the peak of their shared history. After that, there is a slight decline, family, children, all the charms of family life. However, the dungeon is not easy, the succubi's mana raises libido to the skies. Throughout the week-long expedition, Mia saw how others relieved this burden with other creatures, but she could not allow herself to do so. When the tension reached its peak, she decided to take that risky but necessary step to release this monstrous tension from her body. Why did she need to do this? When you are weakened, you lose mana, and if Mia is not strong enough at the right moment, she may lose her beloved, unable to protect him. Therefore, it was critically important for her to do something about this situation at the time of the 0.4 update.
 

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In fact, anything is possible, my friend, but please remember that this is an NTR/NTS game, with all the charms and (problems) of this genre. We are still in the very early stages of development, but in the future I will be able to add more meaning to this game.
I am aware. Imo the fun in NTR is the option to be passive or active in the situation. When the game gives you a thousand reasons to bail but you stay for no reason at all it doesnt make sense. When the game gives you a thousand reasons to leave the slut but you CHOOSE to stay it feels important, impactful. Makes it more real.

If MC never finds out and she eventually stops, it's better for him but makes her worse for never coming clean and giving him the choice. Love is honesty.

I dont mean to come off as I am not enjoying the game, I am. I'm just hoping it doesnt fall down that same rabbithole where MC has no choices at all in his own future. Especially given they want to start a family.
 
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remember that this is an NTR/NTS game
Ok, NTR, NTS... It's all too complicated.
Almost like politics, all these right, left...
Just tell me on which path we will grovel before Mrs. Leia?
This information will be enough for me.
 
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In the NTS route, will the MC also have some action or will he just share the LI? Like, will it be an open/swinging relationship?
 

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My focus will be sharing Mia. However, the NTR branch will be really cool to see almost everyone on the team having sex... While Mia can't have the same, it's really hot and funny. :LOL:

Good to know that we won't just have ogres, there will be many other monsters.
 

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It's an NTR game and I love the art and fantasy setting but same old tropes everyone has a bigger dick and girlfriend has no willpower and cheats as soon as she gets a bit horny, I'm hoping the MC will have some backbone and see some payback.
 
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It's an NTR game and I love the art and fantasy setting but same old tropes everyone has a bigger dick and girlfriend has no willpower and cheats as soon as she gets a bit horny, I'm hoping the MC will have some backbone and see some payback.
The NTR route is like that, at least here there is a very good way to follow both sides. I'm waiting for the NTS after another NTR update, it appears.
 
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It's an NTR game and I love the art and fantasy setting but same old tropes everyone has a bigger dick and girlfriend has no willpower and cheats as soon as she gets a bit horny, I'm hoping the MC will have some backbone and see some payback.
To be fair, she's spent over a week being exposed to a magic power that makes everyone horny, with no decent way to get relief. Plus, it's not like she jumped right into a gangbang or any thing like that. She just tasted some lizardman dick. As far as NTR plot devices go, this one isn't that far fetched.
 
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Just a little bit of lizard milk won't hurt. Haha I actually really liked the scene. And Tara, as always, is surprising me, soon Mia will be following in her footsteps and I hope it's the back first. :sneaky:
 

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To be fair, she's spent over a week being exposed to a magic power that makes everyone horny, with no decent way to get relief. Plus, it's not like she jumped right into a gangbang or any thing like that. She just tasted some lizardman dick. As far as NTR plot devices go, this one isn't that far fetched.
When he told her about the potion was said he could use hands and mouth. So when that wasn't enough for her cheating is the first option not talking about with partner. = cheating slut
 
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