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I don't know, I'd prefer not to, I'd rather see much more of Mia. Even flashbacks, if possible, and since we'll have her anticipation, will be much more interesting.
Vanessa is the past, Mia is the present. But the scene with the ex-wife was cool. If there are similar scenes when it's Mia's turn, it will be fun on any route.
Perhaps in flash backs, after he waits in the other room it shows his future life before he ends up in the other world. his wife with other men maybe as he watches them maybe clean her up afterwards something like that as part of the NTS route.
 
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Perhaps in flash backs, after he waits in the other room it shows his future life before he ends up in the other world. his wife with other men maybe as he watches them maybe clean her up afterwards something like that as part of the NTS route.
It's possible, but it all depends on the developer. That's a good idea. Some brief flashbacks before he ceased to exist in that world. If it happens, I'll enjoy it more; what interests me right now is Mia, I never get tired of her. :LOL:

I'm just longing to see her in many sex scenes after a good battle trying to save her witch people; her womb will also fight great battles.
 
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It's possible, but it all depends on the developer. That's a good idea. Some brief flashbacks before he ceased to exist in that world. If it happens, I'll enjoy it more; what interests me right now is Mia, I never get tired of her. :LOL:

I'm just longing to see her in many sex scenes after a good battle trying to save her witch people; her womb will also fight great battles.
I to am to looking forward to more scenes with Mia (some group sex would be good), hopefully on the nts route it will be reciprocated by Mia allowing the MC to have fun with other women and creatures.
 
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I to am to looking forward to more scenes with Mia (some group sex would be good), hopefully on the nts route it will be reciprocated by Mia allowing the MC to have fun with other women and creatures.
I think we'll see her in MMF scenes even in the NTR genre. But I prefer her with various monsters rather than humans. The MC will surely have many partners, and Tigresa will be one of them, much to my delight.
Group sex would be great, I'm dying to see Mia taking multiple dicks.
The only thing that can't be missing is anal sex, which is what I most want to see from her.
 
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I can only imagine her receiving anal treatment like the one in my profile the first time. It will be even more special if it's with Gordok or Kold.
 

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Perhaps in flash backs, after he waits in the other room it shows his future life before he ends up in the other world. his wife with other men maybe as he watches them maybe clean her up afterwards something like that as part of the NTS route.
You obviously didn't pay attention to the story, the MC wasn't a cuck, he discovered his girlfriend cheating and she left, he wasn't happy about it at all. At no point does the MC EVER showed interest in his gf fucking someone else. The Succubus Dungeon is the only point at which he has to contend with it, because he doesn't have a choice. Also the NTS path is clearly not going to be a Beta Cuck path, more of an Alpha Cuck, where yea maybe his gf is going to fuck around a bit but so will he, and not be some submissive cleaning some other male leftovers. If anything like that had to happen it would likely happen on the NTR path, which is clearly more along the lines of the Beta Cuck path since the MC is effectively neutered for it, so if he doesn't do it on the NTR path you can forget him doing it on the NTS path.

I think we'll see her in MMF scenes even in the NTR genre. But I prefer her with various monsters rather than humans. The MC will surely have many partners, and Tigresa will be one of them, much to my delight.
Group sex would be great, I'm dying to see Mia taking multiple dicks.
The only thing that can't be missing is anal sex, which is what I most want to see from her.
Well on the NTR path its impossible for him to do anything much since he is magically neutered, on the NTS path is where the MC will actually fuck around, however if you want Mia to be gangbanged by non-humans I suspect its far more likely to happen on the NTR path, since on the NTS path the MC will be able to partake so its more likely he'll be involved.
 

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You obviously didn't pay attention to the story, the MC wasn't a cuck, he discovered his girlfriend cheating and she left, he wasn't happy about it at all. At no point does the MC EVER showed interest in his gf fucking someone else. The Succubus Dungeon is the only point at which he has to contend with it, because he doesn't have a choice. Also the NTS path is clearly not going to be a Beta Cuck path, more of an Alpha Cuck, where yea maybe his gf is going to fuck around a bit but so will he, and not be some submissive cleaning some other male leftovers. If anything like that had to happen it would likely happen on the NTR path, which is clearly more along the lines of the Beta Cuck path since the MC is effectively neutered for it, so if he doesn't do it on the NTR path you can forget him doing it on the NTS path.



Well on the NTR path its impossible for him to do anything much since he is magically neutered, on the NTS path is where the MC will actually fuck around, however if you want Mia to be gangbanged by non-humans I suspect its far more likely to happen on the NTR path, since on the NTS path the MC will be able to partake so its more likely he'll be involved.


In my opinion, you're off on one thing: NTS fits better for building a cuckold fetish where the protagonist is a beta, since he's consenting to it. The whole charm of NTR is that the protagonist stays completely in the dark—Netorare is all about that mystery and intrigue, while Netorase is about acceptance and actively participating, whether in an active or passive role (that's how I see it anyway).


As for making the protagonist a weaker beta type—yeah, there's definitely room for that in my game on the NTS path, BUT there's also plenty of space for a protagonist who wants to take charge in exploring his own sexuality with other girls, rather than just being Mia's submissive sidekick on her sexual adventure with people and monsters.


I've mentioned this before, but the game is planned to be huge, with tons of branching paths and different fetishes. In the end, it all comes down to the player—what they steer the protagonist toward is the content they'll get.
 

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You obviously didn't pay attention to the story, the MC wasn't a cuck, he discovered his girlfriend cheating and she left, he wasn't happy about it at all. At no point does the MC EVER showed interest in his gf fucking someone else. The Succubus Dungeon is the only point at which he has to contend with it, because he doesn't have a choice. Also the NTS path is clearly not going to be a Beta Cuck path, more of an Alpha Cuck, where yea maybe his gf is going to fuck around a bit but so will he, and not be some submissive cleaning some other male leftovers. If anything like that had to happen it would likely happen on the NTR path, which is clearly more along the lines of the Beta Cuck path since the MC is effectively neutered for it, so if he doesn't do it on the NTR path you can forget him doing it on the NTS path.



Well on the NTR path its impossible for him to do anything much since he is magically neutered, on the NTS path is where the MC will actually fuck around, however if you want Mia to be gangbanged by non-humans I suspect its far more likely to happen on the NTR path, since on the NTS path the MC will be able to partake so its more likely he'll be involved.
I did pay attention to the story and the elf took him back then he had a choice to wait or tell her to fuck off. Telling her to fuck off is what an alpha cuck would do(to use you words), but when he agreed to wait in the other room for her that is what a cuck would do which means even though he wasn't happy he was willing to listen to her and his decision to leave or stay will slightly affect the NTS story going forward I believe at least that is what Skinny Rat said.
 
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In my opinion, you're off on one thing: NTS fits better for building a cuckold fetish where the protagonist is a beta, since he's consenting to it. The whole charm of NTR is that the protagonist stays completely in the dark—Netorare is all about that mystery and intrigue, while Netorase is about acceptance and actively participating, whether in an active or passive role (that's how I see it anyway).

As for making the protagonist a weaker beta type—yeah, there's definitely room for that in my game on the NTS path, BUT there's also plenty of space for a protagonist who wants to take charge in exploring his own sexuality with other girls, rather than just being Mia's submissive sidekick on her sexual adventure with people and monsters.

I've mentioned this before, but the game is planned to be huge, with tons of branching paths and different fetishes. In the end, it all comes down to the player—what they steer the protagonist toward is the content they'll get.
The problem is what is defined as NTR & NTS differ per person, for NTR you say mystery & intrigue, I say cheating and loss, is there really mystery and intrigue on the NTR path in this game? The MC is magically neutered, but in full possession of his mental faculties unless you did the exact same thing as virtually every other NTR games and basically gave him a single digit Wisdom attribute, he'll be aware of Mia is fucking around, their is no mystery or intrigue there, he is losing her to others and she is cheating on him, he knows it, we know it.

I know many fanatics of NTR love to poetically say its about 'mystery & intrigue' except virtually no NTR game has truly those because most of said fans gets off seeing the LI getting fucked by others, typically while the insanely oblivious MC doesn't figure it out, again not a single drop of mystery & intrigue there. Ironically if the story wasn't a porn story the NTR would work better in your optic, because the writer wouldn't feel the need to show off the LI getting fucked by others constantly, so they'd actually be having a better time of actually making a mystery & intrigue out of it, but in 99% of the games on this site? Forget about it, NTR is all about getting cucked and losing the LI to the competition, because its the only aspects that work with porn.

So obviously every NTR stories are going to be pretty much about some pathethic excuse for a man getting cheated on, how many of them suffer from the 'small dick' syndrome? Most again. So tell me what that type of character are? Beta Cucks. If you want actually someone that is more along the lines of an Alpha Cuck its typically in the NTS / Swinging & Sharing games, where the MC actually get its fair share of sex, sure you have some of those games with the MC that give away his gf or wife to others and doesn't get any in trade, so their are plenty of Beta Cuck NTS stories here too, but NTR stories in the games here are virtually all about weak submissive males that get their gf or wives taken away, unless its a FMC in which case she get corrupted behind her oblivious husband's back, because somehow when its a NTR game with a FMC instead of having the rare narrative of the bf or husband getting stolen, she is still the one getting stolen.

I mean one of the few games I heard had actually any form of 'mystery' is Wedding Roaming but again if you play the actual NTR path you are aware of the fiance cheating because you get to see pictures of it, its not mysterious at all, and ironically the 'Love Path' where nothing happen but which use most of the same content as the NTR path without the pictures that do show cheating, is actually the closest to actually be fitting your description, except in this case its because nothing actually happen, it just look constantly like your fiance and supposedly best friend are perpetually getting way too close for comfort.

I did pay attention to the story and the elf took him back then he had a choice to wait or tell her to fuck off. Telling her to fuck off is what an alpha cuck would do(to use you words), but when he agreed to wait in the other room for her that is what a cuck would do which means even though he wasn't happy he was willing to listen to her and his decision to leave or stay will slightly affect the NTS story going forward I believe at least that is what Skinny Rat said.
I don't understand what you are talking about.. the MC had originally a gf which cheated on him and left, he was by no mean happy or in support of that, after which he died, and was reborn in a fantasy world, now you talk about an elf? What elf? The cook that tells the MC he should share his gf? Just because he listen to what the guy say doesn't make him a cuck, just mean he isn't a hothead. Or do you mean the elf girl the MC can fuck in the woods? If he chose to fuck her its not really NTS since she isn't his gf or wife, he merely is fucking her. As for what it mean for the narrative its painfully obvious, the Dev is trying to teach the MC a lesson, on the NTR path I suppose its either let it happen or lose her, on the NTS path I suppose its going to be more along the lines of if you both let yourselves loose it will be better. Or effectively its a message to the players, 'you better learn quickly to let go otherwise you'll get pretty sore with this story because their is no keeping your gf all to yourself'.
 
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Well on the NTR path its impossible for him to do anything much since he is magically neutered, on the NTS path is where the MC will actually fuck around, however if you want Mia to be gangbanged by non-humans I suspect its far more likely to happen on the NTR path, since on the NTS path the MC will be able to partake so its more likely he'll be involved.
I think it will be possible. The MC might have more sex in NTS, but he can do the same in NTR, as we've already seen. It just won't be a very good sexual encounter, but he can...
I didn't say sexually abused; that can happen to some monsters, but I didn't see anything like that with the lizard. Now, with a group of ogres, it's okay, but I prefer her to be fucked willingly; it's much more enjoyable to see the girl corrupting herself to a bunch of monsters who will give her what she wants.

That's why I prefer to see her more with Kai or the lizards; a group of them would be good for her.
 
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I did pay attention to the story and the elf took him back then he had a choice to wait or tell her to fuck off. Telling her to fuck off is what an alpha cuck would do(to use you words), but when he agreed to wait in the other room for her that is what a cuck would do which means even though he wasn't happy he was willing to listen to her and his decision to leave or stay will slightly affect the NTS story going forward I believe at least that is what Skinny Rat said.
Yes, even Leia said she knows the type of MC. A cuckold who accepts everything, I believe that's where the cuckold's path begins, with Leia becoming the little devil on his shoulder along that path.
If that's really what we're thinking, it'll be cool for those who like it. I'd rather save Mia than chase after that ex-bitch.
And another incredible detail from that scene was Mia being treated like a sex animal, her throat being fucked deeply, it was awesome. It was a dream, but it could signify paths if we don't intervene, accepting or killing the guy. And after that come the consequences, something I don't see many people mentioning here, which is why I love this game; the choices really matter, even in a dream. :cool::coffee:

Oops, this could happen sometime soon, it won't just be dreams.
 
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Rat dev Hey, will we have the chance to meet that mysterious, aggressive green lizard? I've wanted to ask that question for a while, but I always forget. I just think it would be cool and a good challenge for Mia. She's fearless and that monster...Unlike other lizards, this one can be larger and thicker down there, and perhaps a little more intelligent.
She could ignore the warnings about them and try her luck with one of them. It could even be a special green lizard, different from the others, that can talk, reason, and has different powers. Anyway, it's just an idea.
 

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Who says we can't find a mysterious potion that makes the MC's dick bigger and gives him permanent strength? I've always thought the small dick thing was a cheap trick.
 
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Who says we can't find a mysterious potion that makes the MC's dick bigger and gives him permanent strength? I've always thought the small dick thing was a cheap trick.
I mean then he would posses what he is missing on top of unique and strong emotional connection they already have, and make the whole cheating pointless.

Mia now lacks that animalistic pleasure he can't provide to her.
 

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I mean then he would posses what he is missing on top of unique and strong emotional connection they already have, and make the whole cheating pointless.

Mia now lacks that animalistic pleasure he can't provide to her.
Its one of my major issues with NTR the idea that a big dick and 'animalistic pleasure' trump love, care and affection. All those games with the big dicked Chad stealing the girl that had been in a relationship for years with a loving & caring partner is a very masculine delusion.

Most women care alot more about love & affection than wild sex. Sure you have nymphos which are the other way around, but largely a strong emotional connection trump physical pleasure. Because physical pleasure is alot easier to get than a deep emotional connection. Even those women that have a strong craving for wild sex are going to chose to settle for the person that provide a deeper emotional connection, and yea if they have that sort of relationship might seek someone for the wild sex once in a while, but you can be sure they'll know what bed to go back to.

Their is a good reason for the saying 'size doesn't matter, its what you do with it that does'. Sure a big dick might be good for quick dirty fun, but a smaller sized dick but properly used can work out just as good, the guy just need to know how to hit the g spot, notice most girls with dildos don't have a massive dildo but a smaller vibrating dildo that is specifically meant to be used to stimulate it, also solid oral and finger skills will keep the girl coming back.

So yea you can tell most of those NTR stories are written by guys because they put such massive accent on a big dick and wildness. Which is why I hate most of them, because whoever write those don't take the time to understand how real women actually think even in a vague way, always turning them into mindless sluts for Alpha Chads.
 
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I mean then he would posses what he is missing on top of unique and strong emotional connection they already have, and make the whole cheating pointless.

Mia now lacks that animalistic pleasure he can't provide to her.
That's true. If that were the case, there would be no need for the NTR route. It would be pointless.

Here, the MC tries, at least for me, just by trying to satisfy his girlfriend, which is already gratifying. Unlike other games, MC is a complete brainless idiot who doesn't think about his partner. We can resolve this since she really liked the lizard. :LOL:
 
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That's true. If that were the case, there would be no need for the NTR route. It would be pointless.

Here, the MC tries, at least for me, just by trying to satisfy his girlfriend, which is already gratifying. Unlike other games, MC is a complete brainless idiot who doesn't think about his partner. We can resolve this since she really liked the lizard. :LOL:
Something I find cool about Darren is the fact that he's sexually repressed, but even so, he tries to give Mia some pleasure. At least once I'll enjoy seeing a happy ending or two with a male MC; in this type of content, I always prefer to see the girls corrupted and robbed.
 

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Something I find cool about Darren is the fact that he's sexually repressed, but even so, he tries to give Mia some pleasure. At least once I'll enjoy seeing a happy ending or two with a male MC; in this type of content, I always prefer to see the girls corrupted and robbed.
It would completely spoil the story if Mia got stolen, I mean he lost his gf in his first life, and now he was reborn in a second life and he'd lose his gf again? That would just make it feel like his entire second life was pointless, way too much of an angsty ending. What would have been even the point of whatever being of power that gave him a second life if all it lead to is the same outcome as the first? For me the worst 'acceptable' ending for the NTR path is if after the dungeon they basically have what amount to an NTS relationship, where he become like that Elven Cook and let his gf fuck around. The best would be if he'd reclaim her afterward when all the mental fuckery is gone and she start thinking straight again, which is what should make more sense, she was basically a pariah, albeit a powerful pariah before she met him and he gave her love, care & affection, if she were to forget that over wild sex it would be too stupid.

I mean like I said the other option is what amount to them moving into an NTS relationship, but maybe she tries to make it up to him by letting him sleep around or maybe even encouraging him after the potion effect is gone, maybe she still sleep around sometimes, but considering again most people were treating her as pariah, why the fuck would she bother with them? Would you fuck someone that was disdainful to you just because you get horny? It would be so unsatisfying to do. Also afterward unless they return to that same dungeon, its not like she could go in any other dungeons and fuck around with the monsters, everywhere else it would likely be alot more dangerous because the monsters would be far less likely to want to fuck than rather just kill her.
 
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It would completely spoil the story if Mia got stolen, I mean he lost his gf in his first life, and now he was reborn in a second life and he'd lose his gf again? That would just make it feel like his entire second life was pointless, way too much of an angsty ending. What would have been even the point of whatever being of power that gave him a second life if all it lead to is the same outcome as the first? For me the worst 'acceptable' ending for the NTR path is if after the dungeon they basically have what amount to an NTS relationship, where he become like that Elven Cook and let his gf fuck around. The best would be if he'd reclaim her afterward when all the mental fuckery is gone and she start thinking straight again, which is what should make more sense, she was basically a pariah, albeit a powerful pariah before she met him and he gave her love, care & affection, if she were to forget that over wild sex it would be too stupid.

I mean like I said the other option is what amount to them moving into an NTS relationship, but maybe she tries to make it up to him by letting him sleep around or maybe even encouraging him after the potion effect is gone, maybe she still sleep around sometimes, but considering again most people were treating her as pariah, why the fuck would she bother with them? Would you fuck someone that was disdainful to you just because you get horny? It would be so unsatisfying to do. Also afterward unless they return to that same dungeon, its not like she could go in any other dungeons and fuck around with the monsters, everywhere else it would likely be alot more dangerous because the monsters would be far less likely to want to fuck than rather just kill her.
These are good answers and it could happen, but it always ends badly and he'll end up losing another girlfriend/wife.
I don't like to miss any content, especially when it involves monsters, so I'll watch all the endings, but my goal is also to see this young couple happy. Darren can accept her having fun with some guys and monsters.
Yes, it would be stupid for her to forget the love that MC has for her, since in that world witches are rejected and treated like trash.
No, she can't throw everything away because of a few casual flings, but anything can happen depending on the dungeon and the succubus's influence. Like, MC is definitely going to lose her on his stepfather's route. I'm ready for anything because I already know that at least there will be some happy endings afterward. A long-distance relationship... I don't know, maybe it would work, but I'm not sure. In fact, not everyone will want to have sex, especially since choices can lead to death. An example of this was Darren's dream.

All I know is that I'll love experiencing the kind of choices we'll have in controlling Mia, especially if I have the option to try my luck with a green lizard. I like a good challenge, even if it's dangerous since they're aggressive compared to others.
 
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These are good answers and it could happen, but it always ends badly and he'll end up losing another girlfriend/wife.
I don't like to miss any content, especially when it involves monsters, so I'll watch all the endings, but my goal is also to see this young couple happy. Darren can accept her having fun with some guys and monsters.
Yes, it would be stupid for her to forget the love that MC has for her, since in that world witches are rejected and treated like trash.
No, she can't throw everything away because of a few casual flings, but anything can happen depending on the dungeon and the succubus's influence. Like, MC is definitely going to lose her on his stepfather's route. I'm ready for anything because I already know that at least there will be some happy endings afterward. A long-distance relationship... I don't know, maybe it would work, but I'm not sure. In fact, not everyone will want to have sex, especially since choices can lead to death. An example of this was Darren's dream.

All I know is that I'll love experiencing the kind of choices we'll have in controlling Mia, especially if I have the option to try my luck with a green lizard. I like a good challenge, even if it's dangerous since they're aggressive compared to others.
I don't know why Mia getting involved with his second father would mean the MC would lose her, I think they could fuck on a Beta Cuck ending of him being like the Elven Cook, that just stand back as his gf / wife get fucked around, why his second father in particular would mean losing her permanently? Again its not like he'd seem the sort of provide emotionally for Mia with love & care, which is I feel the only way anyone could really compete with the MC, which again considering her status is extremely unlikely to even be possible.

Also again screwing over the MC in a penultimate way would feel fundamentally counterproductive to the narrative, he was reborn in another reality, it wouldn't make sense for that to happen without him getting some minimal win at the end, I could imagine MAYBE the actual Succubus show up after Mia got too corrupted and the MC lose her to the monsters of the dungeon, but basically she got interested in the MC and make him something like the dungeon lord, becoming a sort of cuckquean for him and encouraging fucking all the females in the dungeon to corrupt him and embracing depravity himself. I guess that could be the 'Bad' ending to the final boss battle.

Frankly outside of the above 'Bad' Ending, I think the endings I mentioned previously are probably going to be the 3 other possible full story endings, one which is a NTS Beta Cuck ending as I mentioned, probably with some flavor text for the path it took to get there, either he sorta gotten broken down to it on the NTR path, or just turned willingly into a passive cuck on the NTS path. The other ending would be NTS Alpha Cuck ending, where either on the NTR path when they leave Mia feels bad and turn somewhat into a cuckquean that tries to drive the MC to fuck around in compensation for her own fucking around in the dungeon, possibly with a bit of it herself only with the MC's permission, while on the NTS path they are basically are in a open relationship and fuck around with possibly some limitations for the people either of them don't like. The last possibility would basically be what amount to a 'Vanilla' ending where on the NTR path the MC basically reclaim Mia a bit like I think they call it the Stag & Vixen, while on the NTS path they sorta just reclaim one another so to speak.

I don't really see any other ways the Dev could create an ending that would within the narrative make remotely sense. Maybe some further 'Bad' Endings in the Dungeon, but unlike the one I stated above things that happen during the story but are clearly not meant to be a real ending, but rather a 'what if they lost / failed' at any of the bosses or major hurdles.
 
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