VN Ren'Py My Bimbo Dream [S2 v2.0.5] [MBD]

[Dessolos]

Exactly.

And i played through the game a few more times just to see what actually triggers the theo/sue scene and boy its crazy. You have to be on a sue hate train while loving lucia to even trigger it because if your sharing both girls you get the threesome scene. The ONLY way to get the sue/theo scene is if your actively antagonizing sue and at that point its not NTR because your character doesn't give a shit.

if it was any other guy id agree. But I have to disagree , I would 100% see it as NTR even if there is no romantic relationship there and technically that relationship shouldn't be there either cause she is the MC's mother. The only reason is because Theo is the MC's best friend , sure the MC hates Sue on that path and probably doesn't care it happens.

But how I see it a best friend and a mother shouldn't be romantically involved or having sex together cause horny unless they know the son is okay with it. As it can make things awkward and weird , since it is done without the MC's knowledge it gives off a cheating / NTR feel with how the scene plays out. Especially with the way Sue says " don't tell anyone" and " not sure how ( insert MC's name) would feel about it" after they have sex. Now if she has a conversation with the MC especially if you given a choice to give approval or not it changes things.

Now if you use NTR as the literal definition where she has to be stolen I would agree. But if used in a way that is meant for cheating id disagree only because it gives off the same type of feeling or vibe even if the context doesn't really match being cheated on. Only because of the dialogue from Sue and who Theo is.

 

[Ricthequick]

Why is Sue a cheater but Randall fucking every girl left and right and purposely cuckqueening her with Scarlet not? She never confessed he undying love and loyalty to Randall. In fact unlike Randall she's thinking about what her action does to him. Does MC at any point ever think of the consequence of fucking all those women? Of course not! He's Harem-MC, they are just pussies to be filled. What is it with you people giving so much damn room to the MC but the moment a female character step out of line, does something that according to you is not acceptable she's a horrible being? That's the thing with those opinion I hate, you claim Diplomatic immunity on MC fucking everyone because DUH IT'S A PORN GAME. But You cry unrealistic when a woman fuck another guy. Make up your mind.

Did I ever mention anything about Randall?
Nope, I didn't.

Have no problem admitting he's a cheater if we make him fuck with anyone but Scarlett pre S1 end, and anyone in general after admitting he's still in love with Sue.

Point is, he's the actual MC and this is a story about him convincing his "mom" to become a bimbo or at the very least to become more open (just to find out she was already before, etc...).

Please don't shame me on something I never even implied and show it as if it's a win, because I repeat again, yep Randall fucking behind Sue's back, without telling her anything is cheating, feel better now?

EDIT: to make it even more crystal clear, one of the other things that rubbed me the wrong way is that we can't avoid Randall having sex with Scarlett, on a romance route I'd have absolutely avoided it.

 

[Dessolos]

EDIT: to make it even more crystal clear, one of the other things that rubbed me the wrong way is that we can't avoid Randall having sex with Scarlett, on a romance route I'd have absolutely avoided it.

Man I feel this so much just from Season 1. While I like Scarlett I never liked being forced to have sex with her especially cause it tends to go against the way I like to play these games. While yeah there is a harem option this game has less of a harem feel to it to me than other games where I would of made solo path saves if there was no forced content.

 

[Ricthequick]

Man I feel this so much just from Season 1. While I like Scarlett I never liked being forced to have sex with her especially cause it tends to go against the way I like to play these games. While yeah there is a harem option this game has less of a harem feel to it to me than other games where I would of made solo path saves if there was no forced content.

you know I always agree with you on these things mate!
A part of me was screaming, enough of Scarlet sex scenes (and I don't particularly hate her), not too much into forced stuff, when is not a kinetic novel.

My 2 cents? There are 2 reasons we can't avoid her

• Devs wanted to deliver some sex scene no matter the path players decided
• It's in place specifically to counterbalance that possible "NTR" scene for Sue, "Randall cheats, she cheats"

 

[Malicre]

Tbh scarlet is probably the best girl in the game but shes just so boring compared to the others. She literally does everything she can to be with the mc and has virtually zero drama so she should be more popular but alas we all came and stayed for the milfs.

 

[Ricthequick]

Tbh scarlet is probably the best girl in the game but shes just so boring compared to the others. She literally does everything she can to be with the mc and has virtually zero drama so she should be more popular but alas we all came and stayed for the milfs.

I still find the cuck dream in S1 one of the best scenes in this AVN, and I'm not one super into cuck stuff, but damn, Sue looks like a proper bimbo and it's funny too.

 

[Dessolos]

I still find the cuck dream in S1 one of the best scenes in this AVN, and I'm not one super into cuck stuff, but damn, Sue looks like a proper bimbo and it's funny too.

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I'm glad this one got redone. Before it got redone she looked quite scary and was worried what she might look like as a Bimbo but I didn't hate it I actually liked it granted not my favorite version of Sue but for a "Bimbo Sue" I like it.

 

[La Dani]

Great game, this season DEV found a new plot taking high the interst!

 

[Gwimmly]

I'm all about that Theo and Max NTR hype give us more!!

 

[AlexMpog]

Why is Sue a cheater but Randall fucking every girl left and right and purposely cuckqueening her with Scarlet not? She never confessed he undying love and loyalty to Randall. In fact unlike Randall she's thinking about what her action does to him. Does MC at any point ever think of the consequence of fucking all those women? Of course not! He's Harem-MC, they are just pussies to be filled. What is it with you people giving so much damn room to the MC but the moment a female character step out of line, does something that according to you is not acceptable she's a horrible being? That's the thing with those opinion I hate, you claim Diplomatic immunity on MC fucking everyone because DUH IT'S A PORN GAME. But You cry unrealistic when a woman fuck another guy. Make up your mind.

You guys always cherry pick path and choice based on your own preference and apply that reasoning and logic to a completely distinct path which entire purpose is to have her make different choice. Does the system used and the dialogue and point option need rework and clarity? You bet it does! But Why does that have to affect the path? Why do you focus so much on the weak element that switch the path instead of realising it's the path that matter. You are using the creator's weak points and small failures that they said will rework over time (or not, i'm not part of the dev team) in order to satisfy a logical series of event that end up making the character do what they do.

But it doesn't matter to you, it's just a smokescreen, you're complaining about it because it exist. You refuse to give the dev the benefit of the doubt, to see the intent behind the result and accept that yes in some route Sue has and will get fucked by someone else than Randall because that's the whole point of this VN. to have a Harem Path, a Sharing path and a Hypersexualized path (Let's not call it a slut path, What Sue does in this path is not any different than what Randall does in Harem, It's just demeaning and indicative of a world viewpoint I despise)

As I’ve said before, I don’t have an issue with Sue sleeping around.
In my main run I told her to get lost (well, not literally, but I chose dismissive options) - so she’s free to do whatever and whoever she wants.

What feels off to me is who she suddenly goes for.
Theo, of all people, makes zero sense to me - especially right after the S2 intro/prologue where he’s shown supporting Randall nonstop while Sue is gone. And the speed at which both of them jump into it feels even stranger if you played a Harem route in S1 where none of that dynamic even existed.

And yeah, Ricthequick and I were talking about weird "trigger" choices that lead to that outcome. They aren’t intuitive at all. You pick one or two lines with no obvious emotional weight, and suddenly Sue flips from "crying on the floor begging Randall not to hate her" to "screw it, I’m going to fuck his best friend tonight" (I'm exaggerating obviously).
That’s not about slut-shaming - it’s about narrative coherence.

And for the record, I am acknowledging positives of this new RP system.
The freedom to ignore characters you don’t care about is great, and you’re no longer forced into scenes you don’t want like in the S1

But right now the downside is that the RP triggers can push chars into behavior that doesn’t feel natural or earned. Sue is just the most obvious example.

You’re trying to turn this into a moral argument - "Randall fucks around so Sue can too" - which is not even what we were talking about. Nobody said "Sue can’t have sex".

My point is: writing doesn’t justify these specific characters doing this specific thing, this fast, based on these choices.

That’s a writing/mechanics issue, not a double standard. It’s about character consistency and RP system that’s currently too shallow to support the swings it creates (in my opinion at least). All that said, I think new mechanics will eventually get better.

 

[Malicre]

My point is: writing doesn’t justify these specific characters doing this specific thing, this fast, based on these choices.

Actually it does because if you know anything about women sometimes they want dick regardless of who its attached too.

 

[AlexMpog]

Actually it does because if you know anything about women sometimes they want dick regardless of who its attached too.

Well, the same could be said about men - half the time thinking with the wrong head anyway. But if we reduce every character to basic biology, then yeah, any plot can be justified, and every char arc becomes "they were horny" .

I have a save for pure harem route and a save where i turn lucia into the perfect gf while making sue the hoe which is the opposite of what happened in the past and i call that save file "just deserts".

That’s basically my main S2 route so far - ditch Sue and pursue Lucia. It's funny how they swapped roles, I always found Lucia extremely attractive in S1 but didn't care much since she was scheming around and the fact that scenes were forced with her (as far as I remember) didn't help either.

 

[Malicre]

That’s basically my main S2 route so far - ditch Sue and pursue Lucia. It's funny how they swapped roles, I always found Lucia extremely attractive in S1 but didn't care much since she was scheming around and the fact that scenes were forced with her (as far as I remember) didn't help either.

Yea S1 Lucia was a terrible manipulating character but in season 2 (especially after the anal scene) you can see her start to fall for the mc.

 

[Dessolos]

That’s basically my main S2 route so far - ditch Sue and pursue Lucia. It's funny how they swapped roles, I always found Lucia extremely attractive in S1 but didn't care much since she was scheming around and the fact that scenes were forced with her (as far as I remember) didn't help either.

Haven't played S2 other than skipping through it to look at what is there. But kind of sounds like Lucia is almost like a brand new character from how everyone describes her in S2. I couldn't stand her in S1 tho it helped she wasn't the most attractive one to me. I always liked how Sue looked more tho after some of the changes to Sue's appearance they are starting to feel a bit more equal in looks to me.

 

[Ricthequick]

As I’ve said before, I don’t have an issue with Sue sleeping around.
In my main run I told her to get lost (well, not literally, but I chose dismissive options) - so she’s free to do whatever and whoever she wants.

What feels off to me is who she suddenly goes for.
Theo, of all people, makes zero sense to me - especially right after the S2 intro/prologue where he’s shown supporting Randall nonstop while Sue is gone. And the speed at which both of them jump into it feels even stranger if you played a Harem route in S1 where none of that dynamic even existed.

And yeah, Ricthequick and I were talking about weird "trigger" choices that lead to that outcome. They aren’t intuitive at all. You pick one or two lines with no obvious emotional weight, and suddenly Sue flips from "crying on the floor begging Randall not to hate her" to "screw it, I’m going to fuck his best friend tonight" (I'm exaggerating obviously).
That’s not about slut-shaming - it’s about narrative coherence.

And for the record, I am acknowledging positives of this new RP system.
The freedom to ignore characters you don’t care about is great, and you’re no longer forced into scenes you don’t want like in the S1

But right now the downside is that the RP triggers can push chars into behavior that doesn’t feel natural or earned. Sue is just the most obvious example.

You’re trying to turn this into a moral argument - "Randall fucks around so Sue can too" - which is not even what we were talking about. Nobody said "Sue can’t have sex".

My point is: writing doesn’t justify these specific characters doing this specific thing, this fast, based on these choices.

That’s a writing/mechanics issue, not a double standard. It’s about character consistency and RP system that’s currently too shallow to support the swings it creates (in my opinion at least).

I'm honestly mildly pissed some folks didn't understand where I was coming from, but yes you explained it better and more succintly than me, so I should have done better.

Call it professional deformation, but I can't just ignore how some narratives (and gameloops) are implemented, even when I'm fully aware we are "just" talking of AVNs.

I love reading stories, I love playing games, watching movies, etc... I'm lucky enough good part of my professional career revolves around it, that said it's VERY difficult for me to identify with a protagonist (or side character) or become overly invested in the stories, a bit because I have to read a bunch of them for work, but also probably because it's one of my many limitations.

All this to say, what Alex pointed out is not the fact per se that Sue has a sex scene with Theo that rubbed me the wrong way, who cares, if it fits the narrative she could be fucking every living soul except Randall, but narratives have to pay off properly.

Likewise adding new "gameloops" to an existing narrative is always risky, for the reasons highlighted here, the narrative follows a very straightforward direction, with minor changes, the RP system is better than most, but was implemented in a way that screeches against the narrative.

And at the end, this is still just my personal opinion, if anyone else finds it good/perfect/appealing, better for them.

Cheers

EDIT: as a peace offer...

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[Malicre]

Haven't played S2 other than skipping through it to look at what is there. But kind of sounds like Lucia is almost like a brand new character from how everyone describes her in S2. I couldn't stand her in S1 tho it helped she wasn't the most attractive one to me. I always liked how Sue looked more tho after some of the changes to Sue's appearance they are starting to feel a bit more equal in looks to me.

Shes still sexually liberated for the most part but her walls are breaking down and shes slowly falling in love with the mc and its very interesting because there's one scene in particular that changes depending on her point values. If you get the normal sex scene you get the ok thanks bye type of ending but if you get the anal scene you get some extra tidbits that include more kissing and her walking away clutching her chest after shutting the door.

Also i think Sue looks WAY worse in season 2.

 

[Ricthequick]

Also i think Sue looks WAY worse in season 2.

Agree, her new look is a downgrade, some characters got a nice glow up, she got a "glow down".

 

[Dessolos]

Also i think Sue looks WAY worse in season 2.

Agree, her new look is a downgrade, some characters got a nice glow up, she got a "glow down".

I haven't compared them in S2 yet but I was thinking I thought Sue looked better in S1. That's where my comment of saying Lucia and Sue about equal in looks after the changes come from. I'd have to compare their looks in S2 to see if I still feel the same or not. I never been super into Lucia looks even tho she is hot there was just something I liked more from Sue and Scarlett when it comes to their looks in S1 that is

 

[Ricthequick]

I haven't compared them in S2 yet but I was thinking I thought Sue looked better in S1. That's where my comment of saying Lucia and Sue about equal in looks after the changes come from. I'd have to compare their looks in S2 to see if I still feel the same or not. I never been super into Lucia looks even tho she is hot there was just something I liked more from Sue and Scarlett when it comes to their looks in S1 that is

Eh sort of agree also on Sue, but I chugged it down to her bimbofication process, I think Lucia just looks worse and has no real "story reason" behind it.

 

[Dessolos]

Eh sort of agree also on Sue, but I chugged it down to her bimbofication process, I think Lucia just looks worse and has no real "story reason" behind it.

Yeah that's what I chalked up to mostly the bimbofication. to me Sue looked her best when she had her old hair style and just dyed it Blonde. Tho that took a bit to like and get used to cause I love her old hair color with how she looked. Lucia I never could get into her looks over others she always looked a bit worst to me for some reason no idea why