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I'm starting to be pessimist (more than my usual self :HideThePain: ), but got the feeling it will pretty much go as in season 1, proper sex with Sue will be at the end of the game/season(?), on the paths where MC actually fucks her of course.
Before that happens, something needs to happen (will be a choice) as you mentioned with Megan, Jessica, Candy, etc...
In season 1 iirc all 3 routes Sue didn’t have full on sex till the end

In this update she can have sex with Theo even a threesome with Lucia if you choose to be a douchebag to Sue/Lucia.

I would agree with you but because of that part (thank you gallery unlocker) I’m confident enough to say sleeping with Sue ain’t that far off.
 
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In season 1 iirc all 3 routes Sue didn’t have full on sex till the end

In this update she can have sex with Theo even a threesome with Lucia if you choose to be a douchebag to Sue/Lucia.

I would agree with you but because of that part (thank you gallery unlocker) I’m confident enough to say sleeping with Sue ain’t that far off.
I mean technically she had sex before the end, even if we don't consider Max (with whom she could have plenty of sex), she could fuck the truck guy, she could have sex with Lucia, but yes I don't remember if there was anything else.
 

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In season 1 iirc all 3 routes Sue didn’t have full on sex till the end

In this update she can have sex with Theo even a threesome with Lucia if you choose to be a douchebag to Sue/Lucia.

I would agree with you but because of that part (thank you gallery unlocker) I’m confident enough to say sleeping with Sue ain’t that far off.
She can have sex in season 1 way before the end of the season, she fucks a guy when she go out with Lucia, fucks Max in the bad ends, other guy during her trip with Randall. She is fucked for the first in the story by the end of the season only if you are in the Love/Harem route, as usual. And for now seems like will be the same endless shit drama about her feelings for Randal during season 2 to delay Sue/Randal sex until the end of the season again.
 

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She can have sex in season 1 way before the end of the season, she fucks a guy when she go out with Lucia, fucks Max in the bad ends, other guy during her trip with Randall. She is fucked for the first in the story by the end of the season only if you are in the Love/Harem route, as usual. And for now seems like will be the same endless shit drama about her feelings for Randal during season 2 to delay Sue/Randal sex until the end of the season again.
Yeah, it's probably the same old linear form where they'll cuck each other until they realize their feelings and have sex at the end of season 2.
 

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Haven't said much about this game for a while, because I am still trying to work out what the dev actually means with his path determinations. I mean, it's f'n confusing to me, at least, and I haven't really got any more clarity from all these comments, even as we begin S2, let alone what occurred in S1.
As it began, we were given a choice - Harem, Toy or Slut (for Sue)
The dev obviously thinks different to not just me, and I am glad for those who may have worked it out, obviously by trial and error. But it's not obvious, even still.
To me, it's this:-
Harem - Sue is convinced to become sexual with Randall, and is ok with him having other girls too.
Slut - Sue becomes a woman who once again, looks for as much action, with anyone, as she can possibly get. Including Randall.
Toy - Sue becomes Randall's toy, to direct to do anything that Randall asks her to, as sexual as she can, either with him or anyone he says to, at his direction.

But it still seems that that is not what is happening. Apart from Randall getting with Lucia and his ex, it seems that Theo is the one getting all the attention, which is beginning to smack of an NTR situation really, especially as it now concerns Sue at least. I mean we know Lucia is a slut, as is Randall's ex, so their actions count for less. But wtf happened to Sue being somehow part of Randall's choices, and where have those choices actually lead, if this is not just turning into yet another tired old NTR-crap-shot novel?
 
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I'm starting to be pessimist (more than my usual self :HideThePain: ), but got the feeling it will pretty much go as in season 1, proper sex with Sue will be at the end of the game/season(?), on the paths where MC actually fucks her of course.
Before that happens, something needs to happen (will be a choice) as you mentioned with Megan, Jessica, Candy, etc...
Nahh. I don't think it will be that stupid. Usually devs resolve this (exact cliche) scenario in the middle of the season or even earlier, and *then* build up to something bigger. Some divisive choices, like choosing between two LIs.
Usually the mom's acceptance arc is done and concluded much earlier than the ending. Unless the devs are really pushing it and being stupid about it (and such shit does devolve VNs really quick).
And personally, it's one of the first time I actually got really annoyed by a cliche, I really dislike the whole mom running away and then eventually accepting the relationship thing, such pointless and time wasting cliche, rarely done well and without milking.
 
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So forced sharing now out of nowhere?? Really not even sharing though. Aight then
Not forced sharing, to get the Sue Theo scene you need to actively push negative point in both Loyalty and Romance to Sue. WHY THE FLYING FUCK ARE YOU DOING THAT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT!

For real my guy, Every single negative point dialogue option has MC being a jerk, uncarring or treating sue as a sexual object. If you don't want to be injured by the fork you stab your eye with, I suggest you stop stabbing your eye with the fork.
 

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Not forced sharing, to get the Sue Theo scene you need to actively push negative point in both Loyalty and Romance to Sue. WHY THE FLYING FUCK ARE YOU DOING THAT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT!

For real my guy, Every single negative point dialogue option has MC being a jerk, uncarring or treating sue as a sexual object. If you don't want to be injured by the fork you stab your eye with, I suggest you stop stabbing your eye with the fork.
I didn't pick any of the negative options. I assure you. Romance route apparently isn't good enough.
 

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To me, it's this:-
Harem - Sue is convinced to become sexual with Randall, and is ok with him having other girls too.
Slut - Sue becomes a woman who once again, looks for as much action, with anyone, as she can possibly get. Including Randall.
Toy - Sue becomes Randall's toy, to direct to do anything that Randall asks her to, as sexual as she can, either with him or anyone he says to, at his direction.
So to you the choice are:

She fuck Randall
She fucks Randall
or
She fucks Randall.

What exactly in the whole story of "This kid is my son, I feel like a horrible person for seducing and fucking him and I should work on my feeling for 5 fucking minutes before accepting that boning my son may be acceptable" it makes you think in ALL paths Sue should fuck Randall? You're just not looking at this VN and seeing for what it is.

I didn't pick any of the negative options. I assure you. Romance route apparently isn't good enough.
Screen shot your Game with stats, I don't believe you. I looked in both the script file AND tried the positive Romance/ negative loyalty to see if it worked. It doesn't, I tried

If you care for how it looks in the script, R4TheoNTR = 0 stop the scene from happening. You need a single point in either to stop it.

if SueRom > 1 or SueLoyal > 1:
$ R4TheoNTR = 0
$ R4SueMasturbation = True
jump AfterPartyAnimation
 

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Haven't said much about this game for a while, because I am still trying to work out what the dev actually means with his path determinations. I mean, it's f'n confusing to me, at least, and I haven't really got any more clarity from all these comments, even as we begin S2, let alone what occurred in S1.
As it began, we were given a choice - Harem, Toy or Slut (for Sue)
The dev obviously thinks different to not just me, and I am glad for those who may have worked it out, obviously by trial and error. But it's not obvious, even still.
To me, it's this:-
Harem - Sue is convinced to become sexual with Randall, and is ok with him having other girls too.
Slut - Sue becomes a woman who once again, looks for as much action, with anyone, as she can possibly get. Including Randall.
Toy - Sue becomes Randall's toy, to direct to do anything that Randall asks her to, as sexual as she can, either with him or anyone he says to, at his direction.

But it still seems that that is not what is happening. Apart from Randall getting with Lucia and his ex, it seems that Theo is the one getting all the attention, which is beginning to smack of an NTR situation really, especially as it now concerns Sue at least. I mean we know Lucia is a slut, as is Randall's ex, so their actions count for less. But wtf happened to Sue being somehow part of Randall's choices, and where have those choices actually lead, if this is not just turning into yet another tired old NTR-crap-shot novel?
Thats definately not my experience, you can even cuck him if he is dating if he is not and randall get all the scenes then i am leaning towards Theo being a virgin i don´t remember if it was ever mentioned in season one if he was.
 

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I mean technically she had sex before the end, even if we don't consider Max (with whom she could have plenty of sex), she could fuck the truck guy, she could have sex with Lucia, but yes I don't remember if there was anything else.
Tbf I didn’t really consider Max at all. The dudes model was so ugly I skipped it all and basically kept interaction to a minimum.

Idk I definitely could be wrong but I don’t get the feeling we’ll be waiting that long till Sue folds. My point is Sue is already having sex so early into the season that’s my reasoning. Everything you mentioned besides maybe Max but fuck Max is at the latter end of season 1 (Truck guy, Lucia etc)
 

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S2 is good, so far, but this really feels more like a different game and not just the second season of an existing game. None of our choices from S1 seem to matter (so strange)...
 
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So to you the choice are:

She fuck Randall
She fucks Randall
or
She fucks Randall.

What exactly in the whole story of "This kid is my son, I feel like a horrible person for seducing and fucking him and I should work on my feeling for 5 fucking minutes before accepting that boning my son may be acceptable" it makes you think in ALL paths Sue should fuck Randall? You're just not looking at this VN and seeing for what it is.
I didn't say on day one ffs. Just that it would be a possible eventual outcome. That all of the choices made could lead to any one of those eventual outcomes, given the right options.

The tags quite clearly say incest.
Is Theo fucking his Mum? Nope, not that I know of. Who else is a Mum in this story? Only mother prominent in this game is Sue.
So, its supposed to be a possibility.

Reminder, this is a fantasy avn.....not real-world slice-of-life, actual moralistic bullshit. It's a story, about not-normal things.

Your comment reminds me of all those wusses campaigning for Steam and Patreon to drop all games with incest and every other non-vanilla content.

Are you just playing the Vanilla, Romantic, Lovey-Dovey story? I assume you are not.......


It seems that all of this has become moot anyway, as other comments have stated that S2 now has completely different variables in operation, making S1 a complete waste of time, choice-wise, other than whatever lewd content it has. So, whatever...

This game has obviously become something different than its original premise. Enjoy...
 

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Candy and Jess are great additions. Candy is just the whole package and Jess is the gorgeous goth girl. I love them both, I hope the devs give these two bigger roles and let us take them in the harem path to be fully ours cause they both are top tier and I love them both.

I know I said I want Candy and Jess to expand their roles and such, and that is true, but hope the cast doesn't ballon the too much. I seen in a dev log a few logs ago, another new character is coming, hopefully we keep the additions down a bit and focus on quality over quantity.

Also, update is more for nts/ntr crowd, some nice small moments here and there, but mostly Theo gets all the action really, so hope for more or better balance in future. (Also he should have not been the first to get the Lucia/Sue threesome should of been us.)
 
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The update turned out to be not bad!
It's great that it's almost entirely dedicated to Sue!
But I'm missing small fragments, you know, as if something was left out!
- Scene in the gym when Randall helps Sue with stretching, i would like to see an option who helps Sue with the warm-up, Randall or a random guy!
- Scarlet stays at Randall's house for two weeks after graduation. They had a conversation that she would go celebrate, then she would have a hangover, and after that, she would come over. Why don't we see an option here to find out if she had "anything" during this celebration or not? As, for example, in their last scene, when in the morning Ranadll has the option to jerk off to her video with another guy. This topic is simply forgotten - why?
- Why are there no more interactions and dialogues between Scarlett and Sue, which depending on the path could have led to mutual affection and a future lesb scene between them?
- It's very good that they've finally continued the topic of bimbofication, but why about the nails?
I was hoping for boobs like Candy's! Nails - Meh!
And her appearance seemed to be influenced by Randall and Lucia throughout the first season. As if this is a recurring event to fill the time between updates and stretch it out!
- The dinner where Sue makes up with Lucia is just a couple of dialogues. Before that, they talked about a pajama party, but didn't even play truth or dare – a missed opportunity!
It feels like the developers deliberately cut out the some moments to keep the focus solely on Sue!

Many thanks for the option to scene with Theo!
Cool scene, but why are there no French kisses? Sue just jumps on Theo's dick and that's it? Where is the prelude? She could kiss him with her tongue and suck a little ofhim, or, to fit better into the scene, she could jerk him off and spit on his dick, rub it and then jump on it!
- Why does she mention his dick as if she hasn't already jerked him off and given him a blowjob several times? Lol
She could have just said: "Randall has a longer dick, but you, Theo, it's much thicker!" Or something like that!

After the update, i checked the gallery and there are 4 scenes locked, the second-to-last one is Lucia have scene with Theo? And here's the question: since the game moved away from the choices of the first season, how do unlock them?
 
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I'm liking season 2 so far. Instead of 3 "gamey" separate paths it feels more organic, like you can switch it up and on a girl by girl basis. It also feels like you can cure MC of his NTS fetish. The Lucia lovemaking scene was touching. Porn games are rarely touching.

My one complaint so far:
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- Why does she mention his dick as if she hasn't already jerked him off and given him a blowjob several times? Lol
She could have just said: "Randall has a longer dick, but you, Theo, it's much thicker!" Or something like that!
Because S2 doesn't take into consideration S1 point/paths, as far as I'm aware the only relationship you can setup for Theo at the start of S2 is for his relationship with Megan.

And to answer the folks who say it's normal for Sue to shag Theo rather than her son (if one uses the patch), is not THAT obvious if one applies non-AVN logics, the same logic applied to say "she doesn;t want to shag her son"

Why would a mother, whose son has confessed his love for her, who has already had sex once with said son, who's understandably panicked... comes back after disappearing, listens to her son confess again his love for her and the very first time her son's best friend is at their place.... shag him?

Also please note, not everyone plays with mods installed, and while the choices in S1 were relatively self explanatory, that's not the same in S2

EDIT: I mean

choices.png

Sure the bottom ones are clearly the more negative, but except for the last on the right (do whatever you want), what tells you which one might lead to NTS/NTR?
"Great more melodrama" - "Ok then I'll shag your best friend, son!"?
"Maybe I'm a fool." - "Oh you don't even know how big of a fool you are son!"?
 
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