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Small reminder for anyone still waiting for Ronnu's WT mod as the updated versions of the mods are not linked in OPs download section:
Updated Ronnu's WT Mod, a Gallery Unlocker as well a modified version of Ripson's Chest Mod (removed leftovers from other games like Heart Problems and A Man for All) can be found in my port post here.
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Give it a go at least Scarlett has a couple of nice scenes if one likes her, there's also a scene with Lucia, if one likes her.
The only action Sue gets is at the very end of this latest update and it's either with Theo alone or with Theo and Lucia, but always behind Randall's back.
Also just to highlight how bad the choices actually are:
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yeah was hoping to get to it by end of the year but since my backlog is kind of full with other games I want to play Im just kind letting it cook till im kind of in the mood or got through the ones I care about at least. I mostly just ctrl skip through the updates to see what content there is for Scarlett and Sue.
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It's actually even worse?So you’re basically saying Randall has no right to be angry at her for leaving him - and if he does get mad (which he has every reason to), she can just go and screw his best friend? Just like that? That’s... a very motherly thing to do.
Randall gets mad at her no matter what (which makes sense), she decides to shag his best friend if Randall says "What?" when she tells him she turned down the job offer, and tell her "You are hot" while at the gym.
Those 2 options are pretty much enough to open up the opportunity for Sue to shag Theo, and complain of how badly she's been treated by Randall, so it's fine to fuck.
Right? "Sensual Moments" became my track of choice for VNs that have no music.
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No its made the same way you input relationship yourself and its still pretty clear that sue is his mother, as long as a game have had player input from the start nothing will happend.
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Wasnt there a sexy scene with Theo and Sue in season 1 at the hottub? Or was that only Lucia and Theo that I'm remembering?
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Not at all, That's his right, just like it's hers to feel horny from Randall Cuckqueening her and seeking the gentle and kind Theo to fuck her raw and creampie her. You just don't like it cause you feel Sue is Randall's property, that's a you problem.Well, replayed Season 2 again. Lucia is my #1 for now, with Scarlet right behind her.
As for Sue - character-wise she’s dropped to the bottom of my list. On my main playthrough I told her to fuck off and basically blue-balled her with Theo. She can sleep with whoever she wants… just not with MC’s best friend. That’s actually where the new RP system comes in handy, cause with the old mechanics - locked into the harem path - I would’ve had to put up with Sue's BS too.
So you’re basically saying Randall has no right to be angry at her for leaving him - and if he does get mad (which he has every reason to), she can just go and screw his best friend? Just like that? That’s... a very motherly thing to do
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Honestly I get where he is coming from it is just shitty behavior of both Sue and Theo because a mother shouldn't have sex with a best friend and other way around too. At least without talking to the MC about it cause it can just make things weird. Different story if Theo wasn't a friend. I got curious and took a look while I am missing alot of context after looking at the scene myself yeah I would 100% make Theo say no too unless I was doing a NTR save and wanted to see every possible NTR scene. As to me it just feels wrong.
Tho makes me curious cause I can't remember now does the MC know what's up when it comes to sharing path? Cause if he doesn't that would feel wrong too but if I recall you kind of do give Theo permission in the first 15 minutes of S1 if on that path. But since from my understanding S2 is basically a reset of choices so would have to give him permission again for it to feel okay.
Tho makes me curious cause I can't remember now does the MC know what's up when it comes to sharing path? Cause if he doesn't that would feel wrong too but if I recall you kind of do give Theo permission in the first 15 minutes of S1 if on that path. But since from my understanding S2 is basically a reset of choices so would have to give him permission again for it to feel okay.
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For those blaming Sue for fucking Theo, and Theo for letting it happen without constraints or asking his friend's permission first: I have to ask, did you play the harem route (I don't know how she was described there)? Because in the other two routes, she is described as a big slut ever since the beginning of her transformation.
After Max's event, her past memory surfaced, and she has been fighting constantly with her increased libido. Fucking MC was a moral boundary she never wanted to cross, but she did it anyway because her slutty nature was apparently so high that it suppressed her moral constraints. (Whole story is about her controlling her self from becoming what she doesn't want to)
That's what MC and Lucia have been working on since the beginning of the story: reverting her back to her original slut self (which comes with a certain risk - fucking anyone and everyone). Furthermore, he gave Theo his blessings in both the Pimp and NTS routes for him to fuck Sue, and I believe scenes with theo was part of NTS route. So what are ya'll on about?
After Max's event, her past memory surfaced, and she has been fighting constantly with her increased libido. Fucking MC was a moral boundary she never wanted to cross, but she did it anyway because her slutty nature was apparently so high that it suppressed her moral constraints. (Whole story is about her controlling her self from becoming what she doesn't want to)
That's what MC and Lucia have been working on since the beginning of the story: reverting her back to her original slut self (which comes with a certain risk - fucking anyone and everyone). Furthermore, he gave Theo his blessings in both the Pimp and NTS routes for him to fuck Sue, and I believe scenes with theo was part of NTS route. So what are ya'll on about?
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Well Season 2 kind of was a reset so those choices don't matter anymore from what I was told and read many times. Which is why I said I feel the MC needs to give permission again. Afterall it would make no sense for permission to be defaulted for players that didn't play that path.
Can't speak for the others I mean I don't think it's a big deal personally since that scene is clearly a NTR scene. I tend to see NTR Sue as a different character from love path and NTS Sue. Tho I was never blaming Sue I put equal blame on both Theo and Sue. I just was saying it was shitty behavior from both Sue and Theo. Sue being a slut and her having to fight against her libido and having a high sex drive is still no excuse. Which is why I said be one thing if it was talked about first but then that wouldn't be a NTR scene for the ones that prefer NTR. While Theo that is just called being a shitty friend unless you know your friend is okay with it. ( which did happen but was reset in S2) I admit that would be weird to ask your friend too and probably make no sense but for a porn game it would work.
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There is one BIG issue thou, and it's the stage the story is at, if one wants to be as objective as possible the issue is the pacing and the fact nothing really happened before the possible NTR scene between Theo and Sue (+ Lucia).
Season 2 starts with Randall being at his worse, not working, not fixing his phone, not speaking to anyone... who helps him? Only one person, Theo, who sees the state his best friend is in.
It's also through the conversation between Theo and Randall that we see the return of Sue, and Theo knows how much Randall is "suffering" for how things currently are.
At the same time Sue comes back, she's in pain too, professing she's in the wrong, telling the reason she ran away is because she feared to become again the slut that (in her opinion) caused the death of Randall's father.
She keeps crying and, no matter what path we are in, she keeps professing her love (and ok also lust) for him, also highlights how in the months she's been away she had NO sex.
Dessolos is right, if we really neded an NTR scene for Sue, it could have been for example at the gym with the black dude, or with someone completely new, having it happen with Theo is the worst kind of choice at this stage.
The scene is not bad per se, I agree if one is on an NTR route (which btw was only the Max route in S1) it works, but not with no build up and based on players choices that have nothing to do with it (a bit more upset about the work situation and telling Sue she's hot rather than beautyful).
EDIT: because I always forget to mention 1 crucial thing, there's another issue, we (players) are given NO choice not to shag Scarlett, which is what drives Sue to go for Theo (if the other conditions are met).
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Well, I kind of expected smth like this when they announced new RP mechanics, I even commented on it.
Every system has its pros and cons. With the old mechanics, once you were locked into a path, characters at least behaved somewhat consistently, - but the downside was that you were forced to deal with every girl, even ones you had zero interest in.
The new RP system fixes that problem, which is great, but it brings a different issue - a couple of not-so-obvious dialogue choices can suddenly flip a character’s personality a full 180.
And that’s where Sue’s situation just feels off. A woman who’s supposedly in love with MC suddenly jumping into bed with his best friend cause of 2 mild choices? It doesn’t feel coherent for either Sue or Theo.
I do think Developers will eventually make this RP system deeper and more nuanced / complex, they said as much before Season 2 launched, but as of right now characters, Sue especially, come across as flat and reactive, almost soulless. With writing like that, it’s hard to care about her actions or motivations.
Ss I said before - Sue can sleep with whoever she wants (just not Theo). I’m fully satisfied with Lucia and Scarlett for now. There're a few new girls, they look promising too, so we'll see how it goes.
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