VN Ren'Py My Dorm [v0.27.3 S3 Ch.7] [Tropecita Games]

[wookie ookie]

May be. but what I really meant was that when, I read Trope post about Kris, there is something similar to the letter that was previously in another incest game, that was also blocked by Patreon, only with a different name.

the letter and complaints are really very similar, as if they were one and the same person who was just whining about incest-games

Agree 100% pretty sure I know which letter your talking about

 

[TonyMurray]

May be. but what I really meant was that when, I read Trope post about Kris, there is something similar to the letter that was previously in another incest game, that was also blocked by Patreon, only with a different name.

the letter and complaints are really very similar, as if they were one and the same person who was just whining about incest-games

Most likely it's just a template. They wouldn't type out these things from scratch every time. Can pretty much guarantee the other devs have received exactly the same one with just the key details changed.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Most likely it's just a template. They wouldn't type out these things from scratch every time. Can pretty much guarantee the other devs have received exactly the same one with just the key details changed.

Of course, they won't do the same thing exactly exactly. but there is something in it, very similar complaints...

A couple of games, and specifically about incest, were under consideration, because there were complaints, it was a long time ago, I would have looked for them to compare. but I'm sure that there are a couple of people who sit in f95 or in another forum where they leak information for patreon

But Kris's complaint seemed very familiar to me

 

[Falcon6]

It's not just any one individual doing these things at/for Patreon. As an ol' fart, I remember the days you could buy a Playboy or Penthouse magazine in stores like 7-Eleven. Then the "Moral Majority" (they use another name nowadays) got all hissy-fit and started "blacklisting" businesses who sold "content we don't agree with!", and they also created consumer boycotts of those businesses if they didn't quit selling that content. Nowadays is no different. Today's "Moral Majority" extremists also go after Internet sites and businesses too. It takes a whole lot more than just ONE disgruntled person to "force" something like Patreon to boycott their customers or content creators. Look at the bigger picture.

 

[blkcrow20]

May be. but what I really meant was that when, I read Trope post about Kris, there is something similar to the letter that was previously in another incest game, that was also blocked by Patreon, only with a different name.

the letter and complaints are really very similar, as if they were one and the same person who was just whining about incest-games...

I think as you said, he is a secret worker who sits f95 and leaks information for patreon

Sounds like he's just a punk ass pussy. Probably has a hard time getting it up.

 

[xapican]

Either him or xapican.

Nope I'm the one who will email your wife that you played with her Lipstick again

 

[Dragon68549]

I don't know how you'd do it but the AVN community needs to make pseudo union and make its own versions of patron that can do what they want and not rely on people who can't respect other's preferences. If people can donate or kickstarter $100k's to random people on the net how come we can't do that? There's got to be some country that wants the money and won't get their panties in a bunch over every little thing.

 

[Overlord070]

Kris got rejected by his very beautiful mom and sisters for being a pathetic cuck of a man and is now on a path of vengence vs incest games!

 

[Mow.Mow.Mow.]

I believe it's actually the banks/payment processors that are forcing patreon to constantly update what is & isn't allowed as opposed to patreon themselves - it's shite that they are going along with the demands enforced on them, but they are probably in a similar situation as the people/groups whose accounts they are targeting.

That said, I really don't believe patreon have any right to go after accounts that aren't distributing or mentioning content that goes against their TOS/guidelines directly on patreon itself. If the dev or some third party provides a mod/patch that adds said content after the fact then I don't believe patreon legally have a leg to stand on when it comes to banning said accounts. If you were releasing the game on patreon with the content included in the build but locked behind a password or some other method then that would be another matter entirely.

 

[Falcon6]

I believe it's actually the banks/payment processors that are forcing patreon to constantly update what is & isn't allowed as opposed to patreon themselves - ....

That is precisely how it works. Banks and payment processors are businesses...in business to make a PROFIT. They would never turn down a method that increases their profit potential unless they were facing outside influences to stop those processes. The outside influences are agencies, institutions, or even governments themselves who have a majority of "legislative leadership" who have "moral majority" objections to the content. The only other possibility is that Patreon's leadership ITSELF is a "moral majority" population. But that is probably highly unlikely for the business they are in. So they are most likely being "told" by other agencies (credit card companies, institutions, government agencies) who have already been "threatened" by "moral majority" advocates themselves.

It's the same type of things that are happening with other "moral majority" activists concerning LGBTQ stuff. "Let's boycott Target stores and get them to quit selling that stuff!"

Heck, I'm waiting for them to boycott Oscar Meyer for selling hot dogs. "Those things look like PENISES and are going to corrupt our young if we don't stop them from making and selling them!!!"

 

[MiltonPowers]

I'm his Dark Triplett

Brothers, I think the actual term I used was 'Evil Triplet'.

No but I'd like to check your Bank account and your Credit.....can you pass me the numbers ? (asking for a friend)

Here you go

 

[Dark Silence]

Nope I'm the one who will email your wife that you played with her Lipstick again

Hmm I thought you were the one who pissed in my lawnmower tank? Also, I'm not married and if you told my ol' lady I played with her lipstick, she'd tell you that she doesn't have any. She has lip gloss and the only time I play with it, is when she's wearing it.

 

[xapican]

Hmm I thought you were the one who pissed in my lawnmower tank? Also, I'm not married and if you told my ol' lady I played with her lipstick, she'd tell you that she doesn't have any. She has lip gloss and the only time I play with it, is when she's wearing it.

You know it is funny my neighbour mows his lawn now with a nail scissor, specially on Saturday mornings

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

The only other possibility is that Patreon's leadership ITSELF is a "moral majority" population.

Close, it's the credit card companies taking the position of the moral majority as you're putting it. Big credit card company's practically have a monopoly just split between the 2 biggest ones with a few smaller providers fighting for scraps and niches. Since the big 2 control so much of the market without any meaningful competition that they don't need to worry about tip toeing around public reaction or outside influence. Oh you're gonna boycott mastercard? Good for you, good luck working with the alternatives who take the same stances or don't provide the same coverage. Same with Visa. Meanwhile American Express isn't serviced at a lot of stores both online and brick and mortar. So it makes no sense that the credit card companies need to placate public approval when they practically own the entire industry and are absolutely needed to function in an increasingly online society. The only alternative, and only logical conclusion, is that it's internal pressure from their board of directors and share holders. Have to remember that the US is traditionally a very religious and socially conservative nation. The religious right has a long standing hold on a lot of the economic power of the nation and much of the generational wealth and they have a lot of influence on the policy, both public and private within it.

 

[e6mill]

You know it is funny my neighbour mows his lawn now with a nail scissor

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Nope I'm the one who will email your wife that you played with her Lipstick again

Men and their secrets... lucky that not all wives are sitting here

 

[TigerWolfe]

Close, it's the credit card companies taking the position of the moral majority as you're putting it. Big credit card company's practically have a monopoly just split between the 2 biggest ones with a few smaller providers fighting for scraps and niches. Since the big 2 control so much of the market without any meaningful competition that they don't need to worry about tip toeing around public reaction or outside influence. Oh you're gonna boycott mastercard? Good for you, good luck working with the alternatives who take the same stances or don't provide the same coverage. Same with Visa. Meanwhile American Express isn't serviced at a lot of stores both online and brick and mortar. So it makes no sense that the credit card companies need to placate public approval when they practically own the entire industry and are absolutely needed to function in an increasingly online society. The only alternative, and only logical conclusion, is that it's internal pressure from their board of directors and share holders. Have to remember that the US is traditionally a very religious and socially conservative nation. The religious right has a long standing hold on a lot of the economic power of the nation and much of the generational wealth and they have a lot of influence on the policy, both public and private within it.

Which means subscribestar isn't safe either it's probably just too small still to have caught their eyes.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Which means subscribestar isn't safe either it's probably just too small still to have caught their eyes.

Hopefully not any time soon but probably inevitable unless they take some very unorthodox steps to secure their payment infrastructure. They don't accept paypal which is what's important for now but as I understand paypal started banning incest content on any service that uses them as a result of pressure from the credit card companies, so it's possible that SS might have to choose between allowing incest or keeping credit card payments one day.
Hypothetically they could make a sister site that doesn't use credit card payment options and that would keep them safe a lot longer but that'd probably be pretty bad for creators if the only way you could pay is through, bank cards, wire transfers or crypto. Not to mention who knows if it'd even be worth it to maintain such a site.

 

[NadaMucho]

Only thing that's going to push folks off Patreon is something better. There is enough coding power here to hack the planet. Seems like, with some concentrated effort, a "bigger and better" could be created.

Don't know if it's still like this but I always hated Patreon is that you couldn't make single payments. You HAD to use a subscription model which is exactly what they want. Just like Amazon Prime. You set up a subscription, forget about it and then you keep paying month after month even if you no longer wish to be doing so. Fuck.. them.

 

[wookie ookie]

Only thing that's going to push folks off Patreon is something better. There is enough coding power here to hack the planet. Seems like, with some concentrated effort, a "bigger and better" could be created.

Don't know if it's still like this but I always hated Patreon is that you couldn't make single payments. You HAD to use a subscription model which is exactly what they want. Just like Amazon Prime. You set up a subscription, forget about it and then you keep paying month after month even if you no longer wish to be doing so. Fuck.. them.

Still the same monthly -yearly subscriptions