VN Ren'Py My Dorm [v0.24.0 S3 Ch.4] [Tropecita Games]

[FatGiant]

 

[SpatulaPie]

I wouldn't worry too much about what terms are used as long as they are reasonably accurate. I don't believe you have stated that the setting is specifically in a city or region, or even the country (presumably it's the US) so you have a fairly wide latitude on what terms you call things. There may not be one specific term that is universally correct, such as whether to call a soft drink soda or pop. I have relatives in the southeast US whose generic term for a soft drink is a "coke", even if it's a Pepsi or Sprite, which can be very confusing to visitors.

The Reason for that is simple and yet complex. ( I know right?) Coca-Cola was the first Mass produced of the colored "soft" drinks. 2 engineers at coke were fed up with their contracts and quit. After leaving they met with a couple of investors and made their own version of "soft" drink minus the co-cane (Coke's original additive) and substituted caffeine and varied sugar levels. As an added addendum- Sarsaparilla (root beer) was the First Soft drink and was made so that cow hands didn't get (to) Drunk after work.

 

[johnpouljones]

I like Europe almost as much as I like this game. So let's count down!

 

[Trope95]

Okay, Xerox, Hoover and Kleenex are synonymous with their product wherever I've been. Can't say I've ever been somewhere people say Chiclets instead of Gum though ...

I think the Chiclets thing is perhaps a European thing (or at least an Iberian thing). In Spanish, we call it chicle. In Catalan chiclet. It comes from Nahuatl tzictli, so I'm not sure it has anything to do with the Chiclets brand or both derive from the original word.

I know it was said the students won't be seen using the Italian hand gesture like the rest of the family until the epilogue

But will we see Scarlett using it? She has to have been around the family at least as much as Eileen if not more.

Also, I think it'd be really nice if we start seeing more of the cast learning and or using sign language, ideally before but also during the epilogue.

Scarlett used her hands to communicate with her mother, so it's harder for her to adopt other people's gestures.
About sign language, I have something ready for v.0.17.

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Yes, it's only a reference to her daughter.

Also, you have Newport much closer to Santa Barbara than it is. An hour south of Santa Barbara is Malibu. An hour north of Newport is Long Beach. To get from Santa Barbara to Newport would probably be 3 and a half to 4 hours since you're traveling through the black hole of traffic that is LA.

To answer the question about 2 19 y.o.s having a wedding with alcohol. They probably could for their parents/guests but wouldn't be allowed to drink themselves. You can join the military, kill and die for your country but you can't have a beer*.

*unless you go to Mexico.

Newport isn't Newport Beach. They are different places. Newport is where Morro Bay and Baywood-Los Osos are so, according to Google Maps, it's 1h50 (107 miles/171 km) from Santa Barbara.

 

[SpatulaPie]

Ah yes... America... where you can vote and drive... even die for your country but god forbid you drink before you're 21...

sadly the full "rationale" for this is that till your body exits puberty usually by a persons 21st birthday they are still considered "growing" and as such alcohol may interfere with the process. So to "save" the future generations our fore-kin decided to prevent future generations from "doing self-damage" to limit access. it took a special panel in the early 1900's to allow folks from other cultures to allow minor's Extremely Limited access to alcohol and under VERY limited circumstances. Several families before the special dis-compensation had parents arrested for child-hurt from overly protective neighbors butting in without a lick of cultural sensitivity.

 

[FatGiant]

sadly the full "rationale" for this is that till your body exits puberty usually by a persons 21st birthday they are still considered "growing" and as such alcohol may interfere with the process. So to "save" the future generations our fore-kin decided to prevent future generations from "doing self-damage" to limit access. it took a special panel in the early 1900's to allow folks from other cultures to allow minor's Extremely Limited access to alcohol and under VERY limited circumstances. Several families before the special dis-compensation had parents arrested for child-hurt from overly protective neighbors butting in without a lick of cultural sensitivity.

Yes, except... repression doesn't work. NEVER works.

By cutting legal access, you create a black market. And worst, you create a fetish.

Just see the results of the "War on Drugs", compare U.S. results with (for example) Portugal with de-criminalization of consumption (along with several social measures).

The solution is to never forbid access, just help minimize the excesses. By creating a fetish, they drove teens to alcohol, the same way that where sex-education (the real one) is forbidden teen pregnancies are WAY more common. Not only because they don't have knowledge and access to good sex practices, they also live under a restrictive social code that fetishises sex by condemning it.

I could explain further, but this isn't the place or the time.

Peace

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Yes, except... repression doesn't work. NEVER works.

By cutting legal access, you create a black market. And worst, you create a fetish.

Just see the results of the "War on Drugs", compare U.S. results with (for example) Portugal with de-criminalization of consumption (along with several social measures).

The solution is to never forbid access, just help minimize the excesses. By creating a fetish, they drove teens to alcohol, the same way that where sex-education (the real one) is forbidden teen pregnancies are WAY more common. Not only because they don't have knowledge and access to good sex practices, they also live under a restrictive social code that fetishises sex by condemning it.

I could explain further, but this isn't the place or the time.

Peace

I think 21 is better than 18 to be honest, it's really not any more repressive than any other drinking age. It either needs to be early introduction with responsible consumption, like I understand a lot of European countries do, or actual adulthood. 18 makes it too easy for 16 year olds to get alcohol, and also introduces kids to drinking when they're at a rather precarious point of development. I had a relatively healthy relationship with alcohol from about 15-17 then when I hit 18 I went full fucking loser drunk getting wasted literally every day for weeks on end. Now I'm an alcoholic and literally can't have a healthy relationship with alcohol. I can't help but think that a better developed pre frontal cortex before I started drinking, or an early responsible introduction to it would've given me a much better chance when I got to drinking age.

 

[FatGiant]

I think 21 is better than 18 to be honest, it's really not any more repressive than any other drinking age. It either needs to be early introduction with responsible consumption, like I understand a lot of European countries do, or actual adulthood. 18 makes it too easy for 16 year olds to get alcohol, and also introduces kids to drinking when they're at a rather precarious point of development. I had a relatively healthy relationship with alcohol from about 15-17 then when I hit 18 I went full fucking loser drunk getting wasted literally every day for weeks on end. Now I'm an alcoholic and literally can't have a healthy relationship with alcohol. I can't help but think that a better developed pre frontal cortex before I started drinking, or an early responsible introduction to it would've given me a much better chance when I got to drinking age.

Since I had no restrictions on buying or consume alcohol, not out and about and none at home, I was never really that interested. I did get drunk a few times at 16-17, HATED the experience. I could drink a few beers, or whatever, but always stopped before I got too drunk. Cut to my 20's. In that decade, I got drunk 2x, both by choice, both on special occasions. I also became a father, and that was the end of it.

Until my youngest was 18, I rarely drunk anything stronger than ONE beer at dinner and a soda at any other time. Getting drunk in my 30's and 40's didn't happen. You see, my second wife is a nurse, she worked night shifts quite often (too much in my opinion) and I was at home taking care and being responsible for 3 kids, I didn't dare to even drink that sole beer. I could have (and did) to drive at any time. The thought of being under the effects of alcohol and not be able to take care of them, was enough to make me choose sodas and water every time.

The main point is, I do enjoy a drink, and now that they are adults, I do drink (much to their surprise).

Peace

 

[Pax Draconis]

Also, you have Newport much closer to Santa Barbara than it is.

Newport isn't Newport Beach. They are different places. Newport is where Morro Bay and Baywood-Los Osos are so, according to Google Maps, it's 1h50 (107 miles/171 km) from Santa Barbara.

My mistake, but it's a colloquialism of Orange County to not call the beach cities by their full name. Locals refer to Newport Beach as Newport, Laguna Beach as Laguna, Huntington Beach as Huntington, etc. This only refers to Orange County though. Long Beach and Manhattan Beach in LA county for example are referred to by their full names.

 

[blkcrow20]

My mistake, but it's a colloquialism of Orange County to not call the beach cities by their full name. Locals refer to Newport Beach as Newport, Laguna Beach as Laguna, Huntington Beach as Huntington, etc. This only refers to Orange County though. Long Beach and Manhattan Beach in LA county for example are referred to by their full names.

Yup. I used to live in Redondo Beach.

 

[Trope95]

Special Render (XV) - Meemaw

You know MC's relationship with Olivia always advances when they coincide in a bathroom, right? Even if that bathroom is imaginary. It started when the MC caught her pumping her breasts, and will advance every time they share a room where there is a shower or a tub.
Three fewer days to end the interlude. I'm eager to start posting previews for 0.17!

 

[wookie ookie]

Special Render (XV) - Meemaw

You know MC's relationship with Olivia always advances when they coincide in a bathroom, right? Even if that bathroom is imaginary. It started when the MC caught her pumping her breasts, and will advance every time they share a room where there is a shower or a tub.
Three fewer days to end the interlude. I'm eager to start posting previews for 0.17!
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Hey Trope have a question I decided to replay everything from the end to 12 on, what did I miss or forget to put back in a lot of my dialogue repeats goes back to the beginning of scene or dialogue and I have to click through it again

 

[Estuana]

Hey Trope have a question I decided to replay everything from the end to 12 on, what did I miss or forget to put back in a lot of my dialogue repeats goes back to the beginning of scene or dialogue and I have to click through it again

The only thing I can think of is the "Rollback side" option in the game settings might have gotten turned on. I had that happen in another Ren'Py game and it took a bit to figure it out since it's usually set to disabled by default, but sometimes with patches or even replaying games it gets toggled somehow.
Hope you can get it sorted out!

 

[wookie ookie]

The only thing I can think of is the "Rollback side" option in the game settings might have gotten turned on. I had that happen in another Ren'Py game and it took a bit to figure it out since it's usually set to disabled by default, but sometimes with patches or even replaying games it gets toggled somehow.
Hope you can get it sorted out!

THANKS that's what it was. I probably looked right at it and didn't click WTH Yeah I didn't have it on before don't know what happened but works fine now

 

[Trope95]

THANKS that's what it was. I probably looked right at it and didn't click WTH Yeah I didn't have it on before don't know what happened but works fine now

Sorry, I wasn't awake.

The only thing I can think of is the "Rollback side" option in the game settings might have gotten turned on. I had that happen in another Ren'Py game and it took a bit to figure it out since it's usually set to disabled by default, but sometimes with patches or even replaying games it gets toggled somehow.
Hope you can get it sorted out!

Thanks, Estuana for giving the solution. I wouldn't have thought about that and would spend two hours looking at the code.

 

[Trope95]

Happy St. Patrick's Day (I) - Clothed Version

Our six redheads (yes, I'm adding Zoe for this image) want to wish you a happy St. Patrick's Day.

Enjoy, and drink some beer and whiskey for them!

 

[johnpouljones]

Cool! I'm not Irish and I don't like beer or whiskey, but what wouldn't you do for such beauties.

 

[Estuana]

THANKS that's what it was. I probably looked right at it and didn't click WTH Yeah I didn't have it on before don't know what happened but works fine now

Thanks, @Estuana for giving the solution. I wouldn't have thought about that and would spend two hours looking at the code.

No worries, I have no idea how or why it happens but I've had the same issue in other games so it was worth suggesting. I'm just happy it worked!

 

[divingmedic]

Cool! I'm not Irish and I don't like beer or whiskey, but what wouldn't you do for such beauties.

Everyone is Irish on Saint Patricks day!

 

[johnpouljones]

Everyone is Irish on Saint Patricks day!

Hmmm... Perhaps you're right. I stood in front of the mirror and saw that my beard had turned slightly red today.