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VN Ren'Py My Dorm [v0.22.2 S3 Ch.2] [Tropecita Games]

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Trope95

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FatGiant said:
In all that, what irks me is the use of "Perfection" has a standard.

Maybe you've watched, like I did, Female weightlifting competitions. Are any of them what you would consider "Perfect"? Yet, they are all awesome. The list can go on, with MMA Fighters. With Boxeurs. With Football players. With... I dunno... a very large number of sports and activities... that would make most of the male contingent of this post, to say they are ugly.

And what if they are? What is the problem with that? I AM ugly. The fact that people put so much weight in looking this way or that, to gain approval from people too shallow to go any further than how they look.

It is this shallowness that is the result of the disease called "Perfection". I do recommend that you make a google search for "Disease called Perfection". There's a blog post from several years ago, by a guy called Dan, that explains it much better than I am capable of. I know that he later turned into a book, but I think the original article is still available.

I still recommend that all of you work on removing "Perfection" from your thought process.

Peace :)
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What should be banished is not the concept of "perfection", but the perception that MY concept of "perfection" should be shared by everyone because it's universal.

It's fine if my wife, my stepson, and I are watching a TV series and an actress shows up and my wife goes with "She's beautiful", I go with "She's attractive" and my stepson says "I don't like her" (for example). It happened last night when Chaunteé Schuler Irving showed on screen.
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We don't need to share the same tastes. But no one imposed their concept of beauty on anyone. We commented on it and that's it.

You say you're ugly. Who told you that? Someone who had their own concept of beauty. And that doesn't mean it's universal. But you believed it. Perhaps you share their concept, or they imposed their concept on you and you made it your own.

I love quotes (or pseudo-quotes) by people wiser than me, and about beauty, a lot of ink has been used (and wasted), so here are some of them:
"My mother always called me an ugly weed, so I never was aware of anything until I was older. Plain girls should have someone telling them they are beautiful. Sometimes this works miracles." (Hedy Lamarr) Does anyone think she was ugly? Perhaps you are in the same case.
"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion."
"The best part of beauty is that which no picture can express."
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it."
"Things are beautiful if you love them."
"I define nothing. Not beauty, not patriotism. I take each thing as it is, without prior rules about what it should be."


And this one is what resumes my previous post:
"The absence of flaw in beauty is itself a flaw."
 
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Trope95 said:
What should be banished is not the concept of "perfection", but the perception that MY concept of "perfection" should be shared by everyone because it's universal.

It's fine if my wife, my stepson, and I are watching a TV series and an actress shows up and my wife goes with "She's beautiful", I go with "She's attractive" and my stepson says "I don't like her" (for example). It happened last night when Chaunteé Schuler Irving showed on screen.
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We don't need to share the same tastes. But no one imposed their concept of beauty on anyone. We commented on it and that's it.

You say you're ugly. Who told you that? Someone who had their own concept of beauty. And that doesn't mean it's universal. But you believed it. Perhaps you share their concept, or they imposed their concept on you and you made it your own.

I love quotes (or pseudo-quotes) by people wiser than me, and about beauty, a lot of ink has been used (and wasted), so here are some of them:
"My mother always called me an ugly weed, so I never was aware of anything until I was older. Plain girls should have someone telling them they are beautiful. Sometimes this works miracles." (Hedy Lamarr) Does anyone think she was ugly? Perhaps you are in the same case.
"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion."
"The best part of beauty is that which no picture can express."
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it."
"Things are beautiful if you love them."
"I define nothing. Not beauty, not patriotism. I take each thing as it is, without prior rules about what it should be."


And this one is what resumes my previous post:
"The absence of flaw in beauty is itself a flaw."
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When my mother brought me home from the hospital my oldest sister said, "Oh mama, he's so ugly." But, just look at me now...
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Trope95 said:
What should be banished is not the concept of "perfection", but the perception that MY concept of "perfection" should be shared by everyone because it's universal.

It's fine if my wife, my stepson, and I are watching a TV series and an actress shows up and my wife goes with "She's beautiful", I go with "She's attractive" and my stepson says "I don't like her" (for example). It happened last night when Chaunteé Schuler Irving showed on screen.
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We don't need to share the same tastes. But no one imposed their concept of beauty on anyone. We commented on it and that's it.

You say you're ugly. Who told you that? Someone who had their own concept of beauty. And that doesn't mean it's universal. But you believed it. Perhaps you share their concept, or they imposed their concept on you and you made it your own.

I love quotes (or pseudo-quotes) by people wiser than me, and about beauty, a lot of ink has been used (and wasted), so here are some of them:
"My mother always called me an ugly weed, so I never was aware of anything until I was older. Plain girls should have someone telling them they are beautiful. Sometimes this works miracles." (Hedy Lamarr) Does anyone think she was ugly? Perhaps you are in the same case.
"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion."
"The best part of beauty is that which no picture can express."
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it."
"Things are beautiful if you love them."
"I define nothing. Not beauty, not patriotism. I take each thing as it is, without prior rules about what it should be."


And this one is what resumes my previous post:
"The absence of flaw in beauty is itself a flaw."
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Yep, exactly this. Perfection does exist, but it's different for everyone.
 
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Trope95 said:
What should be banished is not the concept of "perfection", but the perception that MY concept of "perfection" should be shared by everyone because it's universal.

It's fine if my wife, my stepson, and I are watching a TV series and an actress shows up and my wife goes with "She's beautiful", I go with "She's attractive" and my stepson says "I don't like her" (for example). It happened last night when Chaunteé Schuler Irving showed on screen.
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We don't need to share the same tastes. But no one imposed their concept of beauty on anyone. We commented on it and that's it.

You say you're ugly. Who told you that? Someone who had their own concept of beauty. And that doesn't mean it's universal. But you believed it. Perhaps you share their concept, or they imposed their concept on you and you made it your own.

I love quotes (or pseudo-quotes) by people wiser than me, and about beauty, a lot of ink has been used (and wasted), so here are some of them:
"My mother always called me an ugly weed, so I never was aware of anything until I was older. Plain girls should have someone telling them they are beautiful. Sometimes this works miracles." (Hedy Lamarr) Does anyone think she was ugly? Perhaps you are in the same case.
"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion."
"The best part of beauty is that which no picture can express."
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it."
"Things are beautiful if you love them."
"I define nothing. Not beauty, not patriotism. I take each thing as it is, without prior rules about what it should be."


And this one is what resumes my previous post:
"The absence of flaw in beauty is itself a flaw."
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Ahem... my mom always says I'm the most beautiful boy, so I'm not complaining. :HideThePain:

But seriously, I agree with you. Everyone has their own view on beauty.
 
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Trope95 said:
What should be banished is not the concept of "perfection", but the perception that MY concept of "perfection" should be shared by everyone because it's universal.

It's fine if my wife, my stepson, and I are watching a TV series and an actress shows up and my wife goes with "She's beautiful", I go with "She's attractive" and my stepson says "I don't like her" (for example). It happened last night when Chaunteé Schuler Irving showed on screen.
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We don't need to share the same tastes. But no one imposed their concept of beauty on anyone. We commented on it and that's it.

You say you're ugly. Who told you that? Someone who had their own concept of beauty. And that doesn't mean it's universal. But you believed it. Perhaps you share their concept, or they imposed their concept on you and you made it your own.

I love quotes (or pseudo-quotes) by people wiser than me, and about beauty, a lot of ink has been used (and wasted), so here are some of them:
"My mother always called me an ugly weed, so I never was aware of anything until I was older. Plain girls should have someone telling them they are beautiful. Sometimes this works miracles." (Hedy Lamarr) Does anyone think she was ugly? Perhaps you are in the same case.
"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion."
"The best part of beauty is that which no picture can express."
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it."
"Things are beautiful if you love them."
"I define nothing. Not beauty, not patriotism. I take each thing as it is, without prior rules about what it should be."


And this one is what resumes my previous post:
"The absence of flaw in beauty is itself a flaw."
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"There are no ugly women, you just drank little."
 
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Omg even better, right after that post I got a notification about GnR from pandora! Love how conspiracy theorist are proven right more an more lately.
 
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Trope95 said:
Are they perfect in my eyes? Absolutely. They are as perfect as Norah or Erika. Because every girl in My Dorm has imperfections (yes, even Martha), and that is what makes them perfect (and believable). Perhaps perfectness is an imperfection in itself.
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I can only agree with you on that and in fact for me the personnality of each girls add so much in her beauty like Kim and Debbie about all the insecurity that she have or the change about Lisa, if she as stay with the personnality from day 1 at the airport I guess a lot of people would have stop to care about her. So continue to write your characters like that it's perfect for me.
 
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