VN Ren'Py My Dorm [v0.18.2 P2 Ch.6] [Tropecita Games]

[FatGiant]

When you make any product, you have to think about what potential users of that product are going to want. In my case, it's easy because from the beginning I thought that everything other than vanilla would be optional. In this case, if someone blocks the lesbian content (which would only happen in a threesome), they will miss the stills/animations where the two girls interact with each other, but they will see the rest of the threesome. Just a shorter version.
The same applies to footjobs, anal, cumswap, etc.
The only difference with lesbian content is that since it's part of my kinks, I considered it vanilla by making the mistake of projecting my tastes onto other people.
Luckily, I know where I am going with my skills and the time I have, so I know what things I can do and what things I can't do. On another site, I was asked to make it eligible with all the girls if they had shaved, natural, or trimmed pubic hair. It is literally impossible for me, with the time I have available, to do that, as it would mean having to render each scene 3 times.
I take community input into consideration as long as it doesn't change the story. I've always said I have a lot to learn and I'm doing it thanks to player feedback. But the story comes first.

Let me make something clear here:

1- I'm here because what you made so far and what it seems will come our way, is something I like.

2- If there ever are things I dislike, I will assume it is NOT done to piss me off (I don't have that opinion of myself) and will find a way to live with it if I can still enjoy the rest.

3- I've been playing this on the perspective that I am a guest in your house, enjoying what you choose to serve us. I'm not about to go check what else you have in your pantry and pick and choose like I'm owed anything at all. Thanks for the Tapas and the Beers is all you get, but they are genuine.

4- I have a high tolerance for kinks, even to those that I don't really care for, except, and I'm sorry for this serious defect in my personality, for humiliation (either male or female), Rape (again regardless of gender) also all forms of non-consensual sex acts. I'm not keen on sub/dom dynamics from either perspective, can almost tolerate it if it's very light and done in a playful context, but, if I ever had my way, none would be preferable. None of these are complete absolutes, if well anchored in a story and not gratuitous, I can understand it. Just be aware that I will NOT like it, but the world isn't made to my tastes.

5- Up until now, all that has been served in this banquet you are serving has been enjoyable, this leaves me very comfortable in your driving of this story. More of the same? Yes please. Surprises on the way? Don't make that to an anxious guy, but please bring it...

Peace

 

[HornyyPussy]

Let me make something clear here:

1- I'm here because what you made so far and what it seems will come our way, is something I like.

2- If there ever are things I dislike, I will assume it is NOT done to piss me off (I don't have that opinion of myself) and will find a way to live with it if I can still enjoy the rest.

3- I've been playing this on the perspective that I am a guest in your house, enjoying what you choose to serve us. I'm not about to go check what else you have in your pantry and pick and choose like I'm owed anything at all. Thanks for the Tapas and the Beers is all you get, but they are genuine.

4- I have a high tolerance for kinks, even to those that I don't really care for, except, and I'm sorry for this serious defect in my personality, for humiliation (either male or female), Rape (again regardless of gender) also all forms of non-consensual sex acts. I'm not keen on sub/dom dynamics from either perspective, can almost tolerate it if it's very light and done in a playful context, but, if I ever had my way, none would be preferable. None of these are complete absolutes, if well anchored in a story and not gratuitous, I can understand it. Just be aware that I will NOT like it, but the world isn't made to my tastes.

5- Up until now, all that has been served in this banquet you are serving has been enjoyable, this leaves me very comfortable in your driving of this story. More of the same? Yes please. Surprises on the way? Don't make that to an anxious guy, but please bring it...

Peace

Very well said Sir, very well said!!!

 

[WICKEDp4th]

Let me make something clear here:

1- I'm here because what you made so far and what it seems will come our way, is something I like.

2- If there ever are things I dislike, I will assume it is NOT done to piss me off (I don't have that opinion of myself) and will find a way to live with it if I can still enjoy the rest.

3- I've been playing this on the perspective that I am a guest in your house, enjoying what you choose to serve us. I'm not about to go check what else you have in your pantry and pick and choose like I'm owed anything at all. Thanks for the Tapas and the Beers is all you get, but they are genuine.

4- I have a high tolerance for kinks, even to those that I don't really care for, except, and I'm sorry for this serious defect in my personality, for humiliation (either male or female), Rape (again regardless of gender) also all forms of non-consensual sex acts. I'm not keen on sub/dom dynamics from either perspective, can almost tolerate it if it's very light and done in a playful context, but, if I ever had my way, none would be preferable. None of these are complete absolutes, if well anchored in a story and not gratuitous, I can understand it. Just be aware that I will NOT like it, but the world isn't made to my tastes.

5- Up until now, all that has been served in this banquet you are serving has been enjoyable, this leaves me very comfortable in your driving of this story. More of the same? Yes please. Surprises on the way? Don't make that to an anxious guy, but please bring it...

Peace

I don't get it, why that is not a general understanding.

 

[TropecitaGames]

Let me make something clear here:

1- I'm here because what you made so far and what it seems will come our way, is something I like.

2- If there ever are things I dislike, I will assume it is NOT done to piss me off (I don't have that opinion of myself) and will find a way to live with it if I can still enjoy the rest.

3- I've been playing this on the perspective that I am a guest in your house, enjoying what you choose to serve us. I'm not about to go check what else you have in your pantry and pick and choose like I'm owed anything at all. Thanks for the Tapas and the Beers is all you get, but they are genuine.

4- I have a high tolerance for kinks, even to those that I don't really care for, except, and I'm sorry for this serious defect in my personality, for humiliation (either male or female), Rape (again regardless of gender) also all forms of non-consensual sex acts. I'm not keen on sub/dom dynamics from either perspective, can almost tolerate it if it's very light and done in a playful context, but, if I ever had my way, none would be preferable. None of these are complete absolutes, if well anchored in a story and not gratuitous, I can understand it. Just be aware that I will NOT like it, but the world isn't made to my tastes.

5- Up until now, all that has been served in this banquet you are serving has been enjoyable, this leaves me very comfortable in your driving of this story. More of the same? Yes please. Surprises on the way? Don't make that to an anxious guy, but please bring it...

Peace

This is one of the best analogies I have ever read. It makes me want to throw a party.
Continuing with it, if there is ever a tapa that you don't like, you have every right to say that you don't like the broccoli sandwich and that you think it doesn't go with the rest of the tapas, or that it's not at the same level. But there will never be broccoli sandwiches that are mandatory to eat or that are there to annoy those who don't like broccoli. They are there in case someone likes broccoli (never trust someone who likes broccoli).
One day there will be beers and another there will be sangria. There may even be non-alcoholic beer one day. But it will always be served trying to make the guests happy.
After you play 0.8 I'd like you to tell me if you think the first scene, if you wake up in the woods, falls under what you have no tolerance for (I don't want to spoil anything). Again, that scene wasn't put there to upset anyone, but if I put snail yogurts on the menu and no one tells me that no one likes them, maybe I'll make the mistake of putting them back on the next party. It's my first party and I will make mistakes.
There will be surprises, don't worry. Nothing that would cause a heart attack, but you know I like to keep the party guests a little off balance. Sometimes I succeed and sometimes I don't.
Everyone is welcome to join the party as long as we are able to have a pleasant conversation. And all opinions about the quality of the food are welcome.

You can even complain that the cook never shuts up.

 

[FatGiant]

Talking to the cook is half the party bro.

I'll make sure to say something about that scene. It helps to know that the cook needs a report.

Peace

 

[masterdc1976]

I know some people do consider lesbian action in the inner circle some sort of NTR, but I guess these guy don't like threesomes, if have more than one girl and don't allow them to play together, for me that is cruel and is just abuse.
from time to time not allowing it for whatever reason its totally fine. but as default, seems so stupid.

 

[FatGiant]

I know some people do consider lesbian action in the inner circle some sort of NTR, but I guess these guy don't like threesomes, if have more than one girl and don't allow them to play together, for me that is cruel and is just abuse.
from time to time not allowing it for whatever reason its totally fine. but as default, seems so stupid.

The thing is... more girls is more better (lol). If I like girls, what is the problem if the girls I like also like girls? I don't lose anything, on the contrary, I gain MORE girls. I dunno how else to think about this...



Peace

 

[ljabc]

good job，have a try

 

[masterdc1976]

The thing is... more girls is more better (lol). If I like girls, what is the problem if the girls I like also like girls? I don't lose anything, on the contrary, I gain MORE girls. I dunno how else to think about this...

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Peace

I assume its about control, I myself think one of your girls should never orgasm without permission, but then can have as much fun as they want.
and if they bring a lesbian over its free game, your girls girl is your girl too

 

[TropecitaGames]

I know some people do consider lesbian action in the inner circle some sort of NTR, but I guess these guy don't like threesomes, if have more than one girl and don't allow them to play together, for me that is cruel and is just abuse.
from time to time not allowing it for whatever reason its totally fine. but as default, seems so stupid.

I think there are different definitions of what NTR is and it is a very sensitive topic. As you indicate, there are different scenarios with a lesbian relationship between two harem girls:
* They do it without the MC's knowledge: NTR .
* They do it with the MC's knowledge: Sharing with a female .
* They do it while the MC is there participating: Threesome. All the characters are happy .
* They do it without inviting the MC when the MC has shown interest in participating: Kicking out of the harem (Just kidding, but don't let it happen again ).
But that's just HOW I UNDERSTAND IT. Other people may think something totally different. And their opinion will be just as respectable as mine.

The issue of threesomes is complicated as well. I have said that there would be different types of threesomes in My Dorm:
* 100% MC-centric: Girls don't interact with each other. No problem for anyone
* MC-centric with bisexual or bi-curious girls: Same as the first one but at a given moment the girls can interact. I just have to hide those stills/animations/dialogue for people who have chosen to block lesbian content. After that, I'll make sure the story stays coherent.
* Party for everyone: Everyone interacts with everyone. As in the second one, I'll have to do magic to hide the lesbian content. It will be a very short threesome.
* 100% Girl-centric: MC and girl X don't interact with each other, but both interact with girl Y (the center of the threesome). This is a very special case and there is only going to be one of them in the game. As for X to be in the harem the lesbian content has to be enabled, there is no problem.

The thing is... more girls is more better (lol). If I like girls, what is the problem if the girls I like also like girls? I don't lose anything, on the contrary, I gain MORE girls. I dunno how else to think about this...

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Peace

The problem here lies in the issue of exclusivity. There are those who want their girls only for themselves. I like my character's dick to be the only one that gets close to one of my girls (once the relationship has started, the past doesn't matter to me). There are people who extend this to their character's tongue being the only one that gets close to one of their girls. I understand and respect it but I don't share it.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

There are several factors involved. One problem for me with a lot of lesbian stuff is that it is forced and becomes boring. If every girl is “secretly bisexual” it just plays into a bad trope and makes all the girl feel the same. Not every girl would want to “play” with the other harem members, but many games make every girl into a lesbian as soon as they can. As if the MC’s penis turned her into one, which is odd. A girl going from the shy sweet girl next door type who never even watched porn before and was a 100% virgin to a carpet munching lesbian slut for all the other harem members doesn’t work for me. If the MC was to meet a pair of girls who were already in a lesbian relationship and they were bisexual and joined the harem that might work, but what almost always happens is such girls corrupt all the non-bisexual girls into lesbians.

It is also annoying in games where it feels like the MC is a third wheel in his own harem. Like the harem is actually one of the girl’s harem and the MC is just the only man in it. Like a dildo with a heartbeat instead of the main character.

On a personal anecdotal note, I know a guy whose wife left him for another woman. So that added to my dislike of inter-harem activity, especially if it happens without the MC being directly involved. And I was already not really being a fan of lesbian stuff. I never found it that hot. I tend to find it boring most of the time.

For me, as long as the girl only interact during threesomes (or other group scenes) with the MC as the primary focus (and only male obviously) then it doesn’t really bother me all that much. For example, let’s say there was a scene with the MC, Nora, and Daphne, and while the MC was in Daphne, Nora was kissing her and playing with her daughter’s boobs and more. That would be totally fine. But if the next day the MC walked into their house and saw Nora on the couch with Daphne eating her out, that would be really weird and off putting and totally out of character.

These are just a few of my thoughts and so far I think TropecitaGames has done a good job of making every girl feel different and I have no worries about him messing up at this point.

 

[goulet1995]

* 100% Girl-centric: MC and girl X don't interact with each other, but both interact with girl Y (the center of the threesome). This is a very special case and there is only going to be one of them in the game. As for X to be in the harem the lesbian content has to be enabled, there is no problem.

will there be no content at all with girl x or it just avoids anything sexual with her

 

[keefer43]

This is one of the best analogies I have ever read. It makes me want to throw a party.
Continuing with it, if there is ever a tapa that you don't like, you have every right to say that you don't like the broccoli sandwich and that you think it doesn't go with the rest of the tapas, or that it's not at the same level. But there will never be broccoli sandwiches that are mandatory to eat or that are there to annoy those who don't like broccoli. They are there in case someone likes broccoli (never trust someone who likes broccoli).
One day there will be beers and another there will be sangria. There may even be non-alcoholic beer one day. But it will always be served trying to make the guests happy.
After you play 0.8 I'd like you to tell me if you think the first scene, if you wake up in the woods, falls under what you have no tolerance for (I don't want to spoil anything). Again, that scene wasn't put there to upset anyone, but if I put snail yogurts on the menu and no one tells me that no one likes them, maybe I'll make the mistake of putting them back on the next party. It's my first party and I will make mistakes.
There will be surprises, don't worry. Nothing that would cause a heart attack, but you know I like to keep the party guests a little off balance. Sometimes I succeed and sometimes I don't.
Everyone is welcome to join the party as long as we are able to have a pleasant conversation. And all opinions about the quality of the food are welcome.

You can even complain that the cook never shuts up.

Ugh Brussells Sprouts. That's all I want to say. Keep doing what you are doing.

 

[myukimo]

I sought information about the rules where I post the games, especially Patreon and its weird rules. I went for almost 6 months writing and rewriting the first chapters (or updates), the characters, the argumental arcs, and the general game outline, so they bend but don't break the rules.
You are right, I don't know about banned games on Patreon, other than the ones that blatantly broke the rules. Or are you referring to games on F95? I don't know about any of them.

Games banned both on Patreon and F95. The black sheep
Personally I only played one of them but before reaching the controversial scene I deleted the game and I only saw third party images. Follow the Patreon rules, put an incest patch on F95 and problem solved
And if when someone says DPC they mean the creator of the game. The boss

 

[TropecitaGames]

There are several factors involved. One problem for me with a lot of lesbian stuff is that it is forced and becomes boring. If every girl is “secretly bisexual” it just plays into a bad trope and makes all the girl feel the same. Not every girl would want to “play” with the other harem members, but many games make every girl into a lesbian as soon as they can. As if the MC’s penis turned her into one, which is odd. A girl going from the shy sweet girl next door type who never even watched porn before and was a 100% virgin to a carpet munching lesbian slut for all the other harem members doesn’t work for me. If the MC was to meet a pair of girls who were already in a lesbian relationship and they were bisexual and joined the harem that might work, but what almost always happens is such girls corrupt all the non-bisexual girls into lesbians.

It is also annoying in games where it feels like the MC is a third wheel in his own harem. Like the harem is actually one of the girl’s harem and the MC is just the only man in it. Like a dildo with a heartbeat instead of the main character.

On a personal anecdotal note, I know a guy whose wife left him for another woman. So that added to my dislike of inter-harem activity, especially if it happens without the MC being directly involved. And I was already not really being a fan of lesbian stuff. I never found it that hot. I tend to find it boring most of the time.

For me, as long as the girl only interact during threesomes (or other group scenes) with the MC as the primary focus (and only male obviously) then it doesn’t really bother me all that much. For example, let’s say there was a scene with the MC, Nora, and Daphne, and while the MC was in Daphne, Nora was kissing her and playing with her daughter’s boobs and more. That would be totally fine. But if the next day the MC walked into their house and saw Nora on the couch with Daphne eating her out, that would be really weird and off putting and totally out of character.

These are just a few of my thoughts and so far I think TropecitaGames has done a good job of making every girl feel different and I have no worries about him messing up at this point.

That's my approach. A majority of the 28 girls start the game as straight. It won't be logical for all of them to become bisexual by the magic touch of the MCs dick.
I'm a lesbian content lover as an individual, but as Tropecita I'm a writer first, and I want the VN (emphasis on the N) I'm writing to be as plausible as possible (inside the genre)

For me, it's more logical that, in the heat of a threesome, a Y's boob (f.e.) passes in front of X's eyes, and... "Yum! Why not?". An example would be a girl who watches a lot of porn and her expectations are based on it (Emma, why are you blushing? ), may want to do something like that because she sees it as normal without even feeling bisexual. Only because it's her reference.
That can happen and won't turn X into a lesbian, not even into bisexual. She won't do it if the MC wasn't there, even if the Y shows X her boobs. They aren't in the same circumstances that allowed the first Yum! to happen.

The first part of your Norah/Daphne example is what I am talking about. It may fall within a logic within the heat of the moment. The second part would not make sense, as you say. It would make much more sense that when the MC arrives, they would be on the couch planning what to do in the next threesome and commenting on the previous one, since it has been a new experience for both of them. But it has been an experience that included the MC. And the two are in love with the MC, not with each other. They love each other but they are not in love with each other.

Thanks for the confidence

will there be no content at all with girl x or it just avoids anything sexual with her

Girl X can only be a love interest with the lesbian content unlocked. With lesbian content locked, she will be around, and she will talk with the MC and the rest of the girls, but there won't be a relationship with her. When I introduce that girl, there will be a menu to unlock the lesbian route ONLY for that story arc, unlock it definitively, or leave it locked for the rest of the game. It will be a bit of a tricky menu, but it will be there.

 

[TropecitaGames]

Games banned both on Patreon and F95. The black sheep
Personally I only played one of them but before reaching the controversial scene I deleted the game and I only saw third party images. Follow the Patreon rules, put an incest patch on F95 and problem solved
And if when someone says DPC they mean the creator of the game. The boss

I know about some games banned from Patreon; they bend the rules so much that the rules broke. Or outright ignore them.
I don't know about any game banned on F95, but I'm new here, and only roam this thread (and download games for my stepson, as his internet connection sucks), so I'm not aware of them.
DPC = Developer? P? C? You know, I'm very bad at acronyms

 

[WALKUR]

Do you have more time to have sex with Martha?

 

[hysepReC]

I know some people do consider lesbian action in the inner circle some sort of NTR, but I guess these guy don't like threesomes, if have more than one girl and don't allow them to play together, for me that is cruel and is just abuse.
from time to time not allowing it for whatever reason its totally fine. but as default, seems so stupid.

Having a harem of beautiful girls that aren't interested in any dick other than the MC's and don't mind if he sleeps with others is already a totally unrealistic fantasy so why is it cruel and abusive to want them completely for myself?

Btw, i'm generally fine with threesomes. I just want the MC to be involved.

The problem here lies in the issue of exclusivity. There are those who want their girls only for themselves.

Yes, exactly. I'm a greedy bastard.

I found it weird how Scarlett and Daphne were practising kissing on each other if they're straight (maybe it's just a cultural difference) but since you said the MC is always going to be involved from this point, i decided to leave the lesbian content on and so far i haven't seen anything i dislike but that could change depending on how this thing with the future lesbian girl plays out. If i can tell her no then it's cool.

 

[myukimo]

Having a harem of beautiful girls that aren't interested in any dick other than the MC's and don't mind if he sleeps with others is already a totally unrealistic fantasy so why is it cruel and abusive to want them completely for myself?

Btw, i'm generally fine with threesomes. I just want the MC to be involved.


Yes, exactly. I'm a greedy bastard.

I found it weird how Scarlett and Daphne were practising kissing on each other if they're straight (maybe it's just a cultural difference) but since you said the MC is always going to be involved from this point, i decided to leave the lesbian content on and so far i haven't seen anything i dislike but that could change depending on how this thing with the future lesbian girl plays out. If i can tell her no then it's cool.

That's the good thing that the game gives you options. I didn't know that I could have a route with only Scarlett and Daphne... And I just accepted my lesbian destiny.
But I liked that story better when the rivalry between the two is created

 

[myukimo]

DPC = Developer? P? C? You know, I'm very bad at acronyms

I don't know. I'm not a millennial either, I don't even know what MC means, I guess it's Main Character
By the way, now many people ask me for signature . But as I already said I only work Fridays and Saturdays