Ren'Py My Futa Family [v0.16 Fix] [DuckWorm]

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v0.14 Preview & Release date

v0.14 Update's coming out the next week!

Content:

- 8 unique CG, 5 unique frames, 3 new outfits, 4 new bg, ~204 Images in total
~5+ New events, including:
· Several Solo Bathroom Interactions
· A few Selves Interactions
· Onori Bathroom Event #3
· SportGround Event
· Strength RankUp Event
· Onori Breakpoint Event
· Next Onori's Relationship Level!

Other:

- Bugs and typos

*Released date - 24.07.25

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Sounds like it's going to be very much Onori-only update..? The patch notes only really mention either her, or past events which were tied with her, or places where she hangs out.
 

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I'm looking forward to the update, sounds like it's going to be quite fun

Can't wait to see what Onori has in store for the character after that discussion
 

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Sounds like it's going to be very much Onori-only update..? The patch notes only really mention either her, or past events which were tied with her, or places where she hangs out.
yes it's an Onori update. The dev usually does updates focused on 1 character only.
 
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None of these really distinguish somehow from the stock narrative. These commonly start nice and gentle and then only ramp up as they go. The sissy narrative is introduced gradually, much like in this very game for this matter, where you have Onori just about starting the angle how MC is actually more of a girl than she is, mocking his lack of masculinity, small penis and failure to perform sexually.

I think you make a mistake in your argument regarding my stance -- i'm not saying that the typical player is going to expect specifically cruel femdom and humiliation and that the game must have these or it will disappoint them. What i am saying is that they are likely to expect some sort of femdom, sissification and submissive behavior from MC, based on the game's tag. As opposed to, as some seem to expect here, that the MC will "grow to stand up for himself" and somehow get on equal (if not plain dominant) footing with the girls.
If you can think of any that actually take a gentle approach and get more cruel as they go I'd be curious to see them; that sounds like an actual bait and switch.

What I've seen way more often follows this pattern:

-Small, wimpy guy is publicly shamed in some early event to establish his lack of manhood.
-Someone, usually a domineering woman, is given some kind of power over him.
-She starts demanding little acts of submission to her will.
-Once he's fully emasculated she demands total submission.
-All the following scenes are about how pathetic he is for accepting this state.

The logic behind it is there to see. A guy becomes a sissy when he accepts his total emasculation, and if there's a futa involved she completes it by fucking his butt. The expectations are what they are because the messaging behind the sissy narrative is that they can't be taken seriously as men. It's not that I don't think you're right about people's expectations, it's that this game so clearly and immediately doesn't accept that premise.

The Onori scene where she and Riko see each other naked is the perfect example. She's competitive, so she wants to compare, and in the context of wanting a W because she was forced to admit that he had a better butt she gloats about how her penis is bigger, but in the same breath she praises his, too. Him being girly isn't a disqualification of his manhood in her eyes even if she does find it strange/novel; the writing distinguishes itself from a sissy narrative by having a scene like this and then -not- using it as a chance to tear him down.

If it happened once or twice you might think it was a touch of weird writing, but it's consistent about this because this game's logic is that a guy with girly looks and low confidence can gain self-esteem from his relationships with his futanari cousins. Because it lacks that needless hostility toward girly-looking guys, it can explore the idea from the perspective of what the characters are actually interested in. In actively strengthening him we can have cute scenes about Riko grappling with thoughts of being attracted to his cousins - their male parts too - and wondering how to approach this.

That will make him slowly warming up to their dicks so much hotter. It's his choice and a result of his growth, not a result of breaking him.
 

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If you can think of any that actually take a gentle approach and get more cruel as they go I'd be curious to see them; that sounds like an actual bait and switch.
No, it's basic escalation common in sissification stories.

A guy gets (or already has) a loving girlfriend
Optionally, for whatever reasons the guy doesn't sexually perform to the girlfriend's standards
Girlfriend starts to allude towards apparent femininity of the MC
What is initially presented as joking and hypotheticals turns more serious with time and escalate. Girlfriend may or may not turn to other guys to satisfy her sexual needs, which can become a factor in MCs ongoing feminization.

In other words, it's a typical story arc based on the idea of increasing "corruption" of characters involved.

What I've seen way more often follows this pattern:

-Small, wimpy guy is publicly shamed in some early event to establish his lack of manhood.
-Someone, usually a domineering woman, is given some kind of power over him.
-She starts demanding little acts of submission to her will.
-Once he's fully emasculated she demands total submission.
-All the following scenes are about how pathetic he is for accepting this state.
That's another common plot, yes. If you note, both of those are quite similar in some aspects. You may even see games which mix those events and/or characters in some manner. Also note, both those models base strongly on the concept of escalation. This means that things start relatively benign, like i said.

The Onori scene where she and Riko see each other naked is the perfect example. She's competitive, so she wants to compare, and in the context of wanting a W because she was forced to admit that he had a better butt she gloats about how her penis is bigger, but in the same breath she praises his, too.
The thing is that Onori then escalates towards openly mocking MC, quite literally going as far as to claim he's less of a man than she is, especially when he can't hold back and cums quickly due to her actions. We can also see in the final scene of the last update that Onori's actual opinion of MC is very condescending, which she expresses in her internal monologue. From all we see she is not moving towards respecting Riko, but the opposite.

It's similar to how Onori displays her true colors when she gets to fuck her sister. Her competitiveness means she revels in being able to dominate and put down others. It's a basic behavior of a bully feeding their own fragile ego. Riko is a big new source of this self-validation for her and i think this is going to lead to her pushing him farther and farther in that direction ("you're really a girl so you should act like one and take my dick while at it") in order to get her next fix.
 
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What feels like "bait and switch" will change from person to person, and more specifically to how genre-savvy a person is. It is an usual trope in corruption stories for things to start wholesome before something setting it on a path of degeneration, that in itself could feel like "bait" for people that aren't savvy to the corruption genre, but the absence of that twist may feel like "bait" for people that are expecting a corruption story.

But either way I don't think either expectation is more valid than the other, as long as the author themselves haven't publically stated what kind of story they are trying to write, and neither are they obligated to summarize and disclose what type of story they are writing.

I don't take content tags as defining to a story's genre, I take them just as "warning labels" for people that have "allergies" to a type of content or another regardless of the setting (usually more niche fetishes and pairings).

Personally, with this game, I'm on the camp that is expecting a more wholesome story. It has nice slice-of-life and rom-com vibes and the narrative has a focus on the MC's personal self-improvement and positive development, it makes more sense to me for the story to be always veering towards being wholesome than taking a definitive dark turn.

With that said, people that are expecting the MC to be domineering or turning into a big strong guy are tripping balls. I could see the occasional role-reversal happening for comical reasons and the MC eventually becoming a bit more confident, or at least more comfortable with some aspects of himself, but it seems pretty set he will always be a bit submissive and easily-flustered.
 

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That's another common plot, yes. If you note, both of those are quite similar in some aspects. You may even see games which mix those events and/or characters in some manner. Also note, both those models base strongly on the concept of escalation. This means that things start relatively benign, like i said.
I'd say that's an example of the structure. Guy fails to perform (or rather his dick is small; porn tends to work with semiotics rather than particulars) is the inciting humiliation, so girl loses respect for him in an escalating series of submissions.

Here I think we're seeing a different type of story with different underlying ideas. Onori's highly competitive, so her putting down Riko here and there isn't meant to tear him down so much as goad him into responding. We know this because we see her get excited when he does push back. That's the throughline for the way she treats Yui, too. She knows that her big sister is smarter and stronger than her, so she tries to push back and get the W by dominating her sexually.

The scene where they see each other naked sets a good baseline for understanding how she tries to find angles on people to compete with them. It's not -really- that she wants to one-sidedly bully anyone; she wants someone to play with her. The whole reason that she's taken an interest in Riko is his resistance. What she's pushing for is to really rile him up so he'll get in shape, grow bolder, and then put up a real fight (that she still expects to win, she just doesn't want to win easily like a bully would).

That's the sort of thing we see in this game: different types of scenarios that are possible because it's taking angles that we don't normally see.
 

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The scene where they see each other naked sets a good baseline for understanding how she tries to find angles on people to compete with them. It's not -really- that she wants to one-sidedly bully anyone; she wants someone to play with her. The whole reason that she's taken an interest in Riko is his resistance. What she's pushing for is to really rile him up so he'll get in shape, grow bolder, and then put up a real fight (that she still expects to win, she just doesn't want to win easily like a bully would).
I think this is much simpler case of Onori actually being a bully in her actions, and with those abrasive actions and personality basically scaring everyone who used to play with her off. It is quite notable that despite all her boasting about her "other friends", she is perpetually alone at her hangouts, and even her new supposed best friend would rather hang out with anyone else and lie straight to her face about being busy, that come to spend some time with Onori at her place.

The way i see it, she isn't so much actively trying to "goad Riko into getting better" but simply mocks him about his weakness, same way she did with everyone else and without any self-reflection or deeper plan behind it. Her excitement comes from the fact that Riko still sticks around (thus providing more of a punch bag) instead of running away like everyone else she's bullied, but this is not so much her plan as Riko simply being stubborn.

Rather than try to guess what she is thinking you only need to read what she actually thinks. And we're shown that at the end of previous update. There's nothing there about "wanting to make Riko better". She views him as her toy that now needs to be put in its place for daring to tell her "no, i don't like this, please stop".
 

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Rather than try to guess what she is thinking you only need to read what she actually thinks. And we're shown that at the end of previous update. There's nothing there about "wanting to make Riko better". She views him as her toy that now needs to be put in its place for daring to tell her "no, i don't like this, please stop".
I do want to point out that technically those dialogue boxes at the end of the update were untagged in-game (didn't explicitly show who was the speaker).

This could have been done just for effect and to make the message appear more ominous, or to indicate those were thoughts rather than spoken words (although the game usually shows unspoken thoughts between parenthesis), and the mannerisms of the speech + the context do make it sound like it came from Onori...

But, technically, the message could have come from someone else. Maybe the person that got the most frustrated with Riko stopping Onori from sexually bullying him wasn't Onori herself, but instead a still undiscovered self, a "masochistic Riko" self, that got upset Riko cut his own fun short by shutting down Onori.

Just a theory, and Onori being a bit of a bully that needs correction probably makes more sense, but I guess we will find out soon enough since next update is another Onori update.
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But, technically, the message could have come from someone else. Maybe the person that got the most frustrated with Riko stopping Onori from sexually bullying him wasn't Onori herself, but instead a still undiscovered self, a "masochistic Riko" self, that got upset Riko cut his own fun short by shutting down Onori.
Hmm i didn't consider that at all but you're right, this is a possibility too. It would actually make things pretty interesting if it was another aspect of Riko instead of Onori. Although iirc previously in the game the lines from different personalities did get some sort of vague attribution, before the full reveal. Still, yeah. Now i'm actually curious if maybe that's how it plays out. Guess we'll see soon enough.
 
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You all call her either a bully, a competetive freak, a loner who simply doesn't have anyone else to play with, or a tsundere who just wants to help MC in her own way.

But I'd say she's just a brat who does anything that sounds like fun and everything else is just colors of her overall quite normal personality. We did get to see from the flashback that she's into fucking because of her sister, her being on the dominant side is just a side of her preferences. I'd say that she simply thinks: Sexy stuff = Fun. But she still has some shame and self-awareness, so even though she does go over the line often, she does so only with people that are close to her. Like her best friend, family, or MC with whom she's getting closer and therefore bolder.

For the same reason I think she pushes MC to train with her. It's just fun. She most likely does that on her own anyway, and now she can do it with someone else. It's like simply spending time with someone while doing something you like.
 
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