Ren'Py My Futa Family [v0.16 Fix] [DuckWorm]

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NTR will only be for a secondary character that will be added in v0.18, we will probably not have Onori X Aiko.:cry::cry::cry:
Alternatively, maybe Onori/Aiko isn't considered NTR since it's not like she's Riko's gf or anything, and apparently Onori was already doing things with her before Riko even showed up. :whistle:

Or was the "no Onori/Aiko" also something that was explicitly said on discord..?
 

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NTR will only be for a secondary character that will be added in v0.18, we will probably not have Onori X Aiko.:cry::cry::cry:
Weird that Yui also had option to let her teacher perv on her or not, thought that would eventually be a branch of NTR content.
 
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Alternatively, maybe Onori/Aiko isn't considered NTR since it's not like she's Riko's gf or anything, and apparently Onori was already doing things with her before Riko even showed up. :whistle:

Or was the "no Onori/Aiko" also something that was explicitly said on discord..?
No, nothing was said that Onori/Aiko wouldn't have some interaction in the future. So we may still see some action happening between them in the future, which I think is quite likely based on their behavior. I wonder what Onori does when he inspects Aiko when she supposedly "forgets to put on her panties." Based on Onori's recent behavior, perhaps the answer is quite obvious.
 
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Honestly, I played this game without many expectations. It was just an interesting story, but after playing it, I couldn't stop. I liked all the characters, and the gameplay is not complicated. The events are fun, and the story is wonderful. Unlike most games that start with sex from the beginning, in this game, I felt excited by getting close to the characters and how the corruption of the main character increases. I hope that this game continues. A message to the developer ( You are doing a good job keep it up )
exactly, the teasing and lets say the "realistic" relationship progression evolving, with scenes explaining how things escalate instead of a dumb relationship meter to fill up and u can ask some sexual act and the character will magically agree
 
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Brotherman, he's dating none of them at this point. In fact he's pretty far from that.
I realize people like you are quick to call NTR on literally anything, but this really didn't need to be a post. Just move on.
You know that NTR isn't just based on people the protagonist is dating, right?
 
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"Main focus of one of the girls routes, Not one of the main cast tho", that's what he said about NTR, for me that's enough for me to ignore that since my favorite character won't be involved and maybe yours won't either, then you shouldn't worry so much.
oh then is good
 
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You know that NTR isn't just based on people the protagonist is dating, right?
... That's quite literally what NTR means.
The literal definition is that your romantic partner is unfaithful. Moreover, neither Yui nor Onori nor that blonde chick is in a romantic relationship with anyone, so you can't somehow imply that it's somehow "NTR but for other people and not the MC" or some shit.
 

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... That's quite literally what NTR means.
The literal definition is that your romantic partner is unfaithful. Moreover, neither Yui nor Onori nor that blonde chick is in a romantic relationship with anyone, so you can't somehow imply that it's somehow "NTR but for other people and not the MC" or some shit.
i think what he meant was, there will be a new character, that will have ntr with also new characters, and/or some of the main cast will ntr another character (e.g. onori meets a new girl at school that has a bf, and in the locker room she sees that onori is bigger than her bf), even tho as usual, the mc wont really think at some of the main cast as his girl
 
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i think what he meant was, there will be a new character, that will have ntr with also new characters, and/or some of the main cast will ntr another character (e.g. onori meets a new girl at school that has a bf, and in the locker room she sees that onori is bigger than her bf), even tho as usual, the mc wont really think at some of the main cast as his girl
The post I was replying to was a dude going "the game was good but then you put NTR in the middle of it", implying that the NTR is already in the game, which is just incorrect.
Then that dude replied, trying to somehow mental gymnast his way into saying that NTR is literally any people having sex within MC's surroundings or some shit.
 

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... That's quite literally what NTR means.
The literal definition is that your romantic partner is unfaithful. Moreover, neither Yui nor Onori nor that blonde chick is in a romantic relationship with anyone, so you can't somehow imply that it's somehow "NTR but for other people and not the MC" or some shit.
This is cuck shit, not NTR. NTR is when someone important to the protagonist is taken from him, be it a girlfriend, wife, mother, sister, friend, etc. It's not something limited to sexual or romantic relationships. Besides, NTR is just the abbreviation for the many other fetishes that use the abbreviation N.T.R.
 

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This is cuck shit, not NTR. NTR is when someone important to the protagonist is taken from him, be it a girlfriend, wife, mother, sister, friend, etc. It's not something limited to sexual or romantic relationships. Besides, NTR is just the abbreviation for the many other fetishes that use the abbreviation N.T.R.
Brotherman, the only thing NTR stands for is netorare and netori, which is specifically someones romantic partner either being unfaithful or being taken from them. In terms of netori, it's the MC doing the stealing, in terms of netorare, it's the MC's partner being stolen.
The third one is netorase, which is basically swinging, and that's abbreviated as NTS. So there are two, not 'many other' fetishes that abbreviates to NTR.

Moreover, netorare, no matter how much you want to twist the definition just doesn't fit as a tag in this game right now. Even the dev himself noted that the NTR is with a different character much later on, that hasn't been introduced yet.

Also, you call out my post that was aimed at someone throwing the term NTR around, only to say that 'NTR isn't based on people the protagonist is dating', which is just quite literally false, and then say it isn't NTR?
Make up your mind man.
 

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Brotherman, the only thing NTR stands for is netorare and netori, which is specifically someones romantic partner either being unfaithful or being taken from them. In terms of netori, it's the MC doing the stealing, in terms of netorare, it's the MC's partner being stolen.
The third one is netorase, which is basically swinging, and that's abbreviated as NTS. So there are two, not 'many other' fetishes that abbreviates to NTR.

Moreover, netorare, no matter how much you want to twist the definition just doesn't fit as a tag in this game right now. Even the dev himself noted that the NTR is with a different character much later on, that hasn't been introduced yet.

Also, you call out my post that was aimed at someone throwing the term NTR around, only to say that 'NTR isn't based on people the protagonist is dating', which is just quite literally false, and then say it isn't NTR?
Make up your mind man.
no
 
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Bro, they're right. NTR is quite literally just infidelity. The term for some reason got twisted by the forum for any girl in the vicinity of the mc getting fucked by someone else. But that's just asinine in general. If you have a crush irl, you're gonna call her a cheater for getting in a relationship with someone else? That's incel behaviour.

Netorare is infidelity. Netori is still infidelity but from a different perspective and netorase is swinging.
 

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Bro, they're right. NTR is quite literally just infidelity. The term for some reason got twisted by the forum for any girl in the vicinity of the mc getting fucked by someone else. But that's just asinine in general. If you have a crush irl, you're gonna call her a cheater for getting in a relationship with someone else? That's incel behaviour.

Netorare is infidelity. Netori is still infidelity but from a different perspective and netorase is swinging.
Thank you, I didn't know the difference.
 
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Bro, they're right. NTR is quite literally just infidelity. The term for some reason got twisted by the forum for any girl in the vicinity of the mc getting fucked by someone else. But that's just asinine in general. If you have a crush irl, you're gonna call her a cheater for getting in a relationship with someone else? That's incel behaviour.

Netorare is infidelity. Netori is still infidelity but from a different perspective and netorase is swinging.
BSS ( Boku ga Saki ni Suki datta no ni ) is a better term for what the dude is referring, sadly not a term on the site. Regardless it is still emotionally "regarded" behavior to consider someone who is not in a relationship with you having sex with someone else cheating.
 
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ffive

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Bro, they're right. NTR is quite literally just infidelity. The term for some reason got twisted by the forum for any girl in the vicinity of the mc getting fucked by someone else.
That reason is because it's not just this forum but how the Japanese, people who have come up with it in the first place, also use it. There's quite a few Japanese games with NTR right in the title which use this broader concept of "the girl i like/my sister/my mother/whoever that i don't have actual romantic relationship with is fucking dudes who are not me".

And yes, this can be considered silly and overreaching. But NTR is primarily about experiencing emotional anguish caused by someone you have feelings for having sex with someone else. And feelings don't care much about the logic or if you have a receipt of "established relationship" to somehow validate them.
 
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That reason is because it's not just this forum but how the Japanese, people who have come up with it in the first place, also use it. There's quite a few Japanese games with NTR right in the title which use this broader concept of "the girl i like/my sister/my mother/whoever that i don't have actual romantic relationship with is fucking dudes who are not me".

And yes, this can be considered silly and overreaching. But NTR is primarily about experiencing emotional anguish caused by someone you have feelings for having sex with someone else. And feelings don't care much about the logic or if you have a receipt of "established relationship" to somehow validate them.
The problem is that even NTR fetish stories that have the scenarios you are describing still have their stories designed to evoke feelings of loss and anguish.

They follow the structure of:
1. establishing the strong emotional connection/dependence between the MC and the girl
2. build up how the "cheating" comes to happen (usually presented as a consequence of "weakness" from the MC: squandering an opportunity, a form of inferiority, or failing to "scare off" someone that might "take" something from them)
3. then finally we get to the consequence of the "cheating" and how it results on the MC "losing" their special person (it can range from a direct separation, or the MC feeling like they lost some of the respect/admiration/affection/attention their special person had for them, or even sometimes just the girl changing some aspects of her personality is taken as "losing" the special person by the MC who wishes they would stay as they were).

Now, I can understand referring to any case of displayed "infidelity" as being "NTR", even though I would say it could be technically incorrect if the writing isn't really conveying the previously described fetish. I do think just tags like "cheating" and "swinging" can be much more appropriate for those scenarios, but there is enough overlap between porn stories that feature cheating and proper NTR themes that I don't really find it very productive to be pedantic about it.

I can also accept the "alternative" forms of NTR that don't involve established romantic relationships as being true depictions of the NTR fetish, AS LONG AS the writing is noticeably designed to convey the feelings of loss and anguish that are essential to the fetish. I would even say those alternative forms need extra care, because the "girl I have a crush on" version can quickly slip into some dumb incel stuff, and the "my mother/my sister" versions can feel like just externalizing childhood trauma (struggling to accept a new step-parent for the first one, and abandonment issues over an older sibling changing their personality and moving to a different social circle due to the age gap for the latter).

The really stupid stuff that I personally can't accept is when people take the fact that you can have NTR stories without established romantic relationships, but ignore all the missing fundamental requirements that make the NTR fetish what it is, and then start calling everything NTR if the MC isn't at the center of every existing fuckpile in the universe.

And before someone even goes there, there is "death of the author" and there is "delusion-fueled media illiteracy". Other people can't control how you feel when you read something, but you can absolutely be branded as insane or moronic if you blame the author for things that aren't even in the same ballpark as what they were trying to write, it is like reading your cellphone's manual and complaining that it makes for bad poetry.
 
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The problem is that even NTR fetish stories that have the scenarios you are describing still have their stories designed to evoke feelings of loss and anguish.
I'm not arguing it, and i don't think it's any actual problem -- if anything, it's part of the point, that demonstrates the concept of NTR extends past technical boundaries of established, formal relationships. As such, people arguing that "it's not NTR because they aren't a couple" are missing the forest for the trees, so to speak.

I can also accept the "alternative" forms of NTR that don't involve established romantic relationships as being true depictions of the NTR fetish, AS LONG AS the writing is noticeably designed to convey the feelings of loss and anguish that are essential to the fetish.
I think this is kind of a given for characters which are romantic options for the MC. This very fact implies that some sort of connection or interest from MC is present, even if the game doesn't bend over backward to establish it in all painstaking details. It can certainly exist on part of those players who get pre-emptively invested and consequently bent out of shape when the girl gets involved with character other than the MC.
 
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