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Man, I was totally not expecting Onori to go full creep after the game had been completely wholesome up until that point. It really feels like the story got twisted at some point. She went from a teasing brat that actually seemed to care about the MCs feelings when she overstepped to just a bully skipping all the teasing.
I was hoping for more gap Moe, with her being a brat and all that confidence being there to cover up her insecurities. Which could work all the way up to the "quick shot" scene, where her personality takes a nose dive. Next scene totally should have been revealing her to be a quick shot too. We'd get a cute scene of her confidence breaking, actual bonding between her and the MC, and opening their relationship up for more lewd shenanigans.
But no next one is her going full creepy bully character and calling the MC a virgin like 10 times while sexually assaulting him. I know they are teenagers, but the writing felt especially juvenile and out of place there. It felt like a virgin calling someone else a virgin, but then there is the Onori x Yui scene wants you to think Onori has been the secret chad Dom this whole time. Which, while a fairly hot scene, kind of destroys the whole family dynamic and killed all my desire to keep playing. I don't care about the NTR debate, but it feels like a scene from a completely different story for me. I get why people think it's NTR, cause it *feels* around that level of dirty when compared to everything else.
It's a shame because I really like Suzuki and Eri, (though the oppai loli to get around the censors is a bit much.)
Damn, I wrote more than this game is worth, but my gut feeling is the story will probably just get worse and more nonsensical.
I was hoping for more gap Moe, with her being a brat and all that confidence being there to cover up her insecurities. Which could work all the way up to the "quick shot" scene, where her personality takes a nose dive. Next scene totally should have been revealing her to be a quick shot too. We'd get a cute scene of her confidence breaking, actual bonding between her and the MC, and opening their relationship up for more lewd shenanigans.
But no next one is her going full creepy bully character and calling the MC a virgin like 10 times while sexually assaulting him. I know they are teenagers, but the writing felt especially juvenile and out of place there. It felt like a virgin calling someone else a virgin, but then there is the Onori x Yui scene wants you to think Onori has been the secret chad Dom this whole time. Which, while a fairly hot scene, kind of destroys the whole family dynamic and killed all my desire to keep playing. I don't care about the NTR debate, but it feels like a scene from a completely different story for me. I get why people think it's NTR, cause it *feels* around that level of dirty when compared to everything else.
It's a shame because I really like Suzuki and Eri, (though the oppai loli to get around the censors is a bit much.)
Damn, I wrote more than this game is worth, but my gut feeling is the story will probably just get worse and more nonsensical.
Movikx
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fair point, but i guess the dev is trying to do something original (or as much as possible) and avoid usual cliches
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I mean, I kind of always felt like Onori was definitely more pushy in a "let me tap that" way and not in a playful way, maybe it was playful at start but it pretty rapidly got more serious so I'm not sure that I agree with you on Onori solely being portrayed as a teasing brat.
That being said, Onori not being a brat that folds over at the first instance of sexual shit isn't exactly a subversion of expectation here. The MC is probably the least experienced and most oblivious character I've ever seen in any manga/manhwa/manhua to the point where I don't think it's physically possible for any of the characters to be meeker than the MC, and the reason why I bring that up is because the entire game is pretty much taking an ero-manga and its tropes and turning the dial to 11.
The characters sort of have to be a foil to the MC in some regard. Yui is the romantic/intimate character trope, Onori is the token "ugly hentai bastard" trope and Eri is the aloof type of trope. They're all pretty common tropes in anime/manga etc.
It's entirely understandable that if you're expecting something and receive the complete opposite, you'll absolutely lose interest in the game.
Personally I actually really like the darker tone the game took, especially with Onori, mainly because I've played so many games on here and read so many mangas/doujins and whatnot that follow the same formula no matter what and generally keeps the stakes low and the mood wholesome.
Having something to turn that on it's head is, in my opinion, just generally more interesting.
LilNawtyLucia
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The darker tone doesn't bother me so much as the tonal whiplash, which could have also been fine if that was the intended twist of the game, but i don't think it is. I literally went from Onori sexually coercing the MC into a handjob to having a cookie heist with Eri. Which could be said to be more of an issue with the sandbox than the story, but I think the game just can't decide on what it wants to be. (a common problem with games here sadly.)
Earlier Onori pushiness I can pass off as "it's a porn game, everybody gonna be horny." But when she went to far and made the MC cry, she seemed sorry. Later Onori would probably just get excited by the MC crying. If the game wants both tones then that version of Onori should be a bully character at school IMO. Giving the player actual agency to seek out the kinda content they want and giving the sandbox more purpose. Instead, you are forced through Onori's content to get scenes for other characters, which just defeats the purpose.
I do like the MC as he is. I am a bit iffy on the multiple personalities thing, though it would be interesting if the dev fully dove into that and gave him a real disorder where he actually acted differently with each LI, but clearly that wont happen and it seems there will only be a single "path" so to speak. Am just happy to get more femboy content whether he is a sub or dom. Though I do feel like some of his meekness is too forced to maintain the story's pacing, which feeds into the Onori creepiness more. Because he is clearly interested in girlcock.
I dunno, I'm clearly overthinking it though. At this point I got enough ideas for how the story should go that I could probably make my own game. I mostly just feel like the game went from wholesome story about dealing with insecurities with a bit too much grind to Degrees of Lewdity but with less choice. I like both, it just feels like a mess when you push them together.
Onori acts like an immature bully brat because she is an immature bully brat.
She is compensating for her insecurities by trying to make a bigger deal out of the things she is relatively good at, it is like a taller kid making fun of anyone shorter than them and acting like height is the most important things about a person.
We've already seen instances of her feeling awkward and embarassed about things that are out of her comfort zone (e.g her bad grades at school, feeling a bit shy the first time she accidentally was undressed in front of Riko, or being awkward and somewhat remorseful when Riko talked with her asking her to stop making him uncomfortable by groping him against his wishes). The thing is that instead of taking those happenings as lessons and growing as a person, she is currently trying to hide her failings and double down on the things that let her get the best out of other people.
She doubles down on being sexually pushy because it lets her get the best out of Yui and Riko, since they have a hard time saying "no" when they are horny. And she keeps bullying Riko only about the things she feels she can hold over him (she has a bigger dick, she has more sexual experience, she is physically stronger than he is) because, since Riko keeps getting flustered and riled up over it, she can keep the focus on the things she is better at and keep "beating" him all the time and always coming out on top.
But I don't know how much more the game can spell out that Onori is only being a bad person right now because of her immaturity, and that she will see character growth after she gets humbled down and comes to the realization that she can't act like the things she is good at give her a pass to be a shitty person on everything else. She will probably still act somewhat sadistic and domineering then (because obviously Riko is into it, to an extent), but not keep developing into an actual rapist.
She is compensating for her insecurities by trying to make a bigger deal out of the things she is relatively good at, it is like a taller kid making fun of anyone shorter than them and acting like height is the most important things about a person.
We've already seen instances of her feeling awkward and embarassed about things that are out of her comfort zone (e.g her bad grades at school, feeling a bit shy the first time she accidentally was undressed in front of Riko, or being awkward and somewhat remorseful when Riko talked with her asking her to stop making him uncomfortable by groping him against his wishes). The thing is that instead of taking those happenings as lessons and growing as a person, she is currently trying to hide her failings and double down on the things that let her get the best out of other people.
She doubles down on being sexually pushy because it lets her get the best out of Yui and Riko, since they have a hard time saying "no" when they are horny. And she keeps bullying Riko only about the things she feels she can hold over him (she has a bigger dick, she has more sexual experience, she is physically stronger than he is) because, since Riko keeps getting flustered and riled up over it, she can keep the focus on the things she is better at and keep "beating" him all the time and always coming out on top.
But I don't know how much more the game can spell out that Onori is only being a bad person right now because of her immaturity, and that she will see character growth after she gets humbled down and comes to the realization that she can't act like the things she is good at give her a pass to be a shitty person on everything else. She will probably still act somewhat sadistic and domineering then (because obviously Riko is into it, to an extent), but not keep developing into an actual rapist.
LilNawtyLucia
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I believe that was the intent, but it just went off too far into porn land for me and at the expense of other characters. First time she and the MC have their dicks out she says they have the same size, then later the MC has shrunk to half her size, and she constantly comments on the size difference. It'd be one thing if she showed any sort of regret for how she is pushing MC to show she is redeemable, but after seeing her fuck her sister, that is never going to have a satisfying resolution outside of going the route of full depravity.
Like Ciaran said, Onori is basically the ugly bastard trope and for me it brings down the other characters as it just makes Yui a slut for her, and Suzuki somehow notices nothing going on around the house despite being around all the time and it all happening out in the open.
Onori doubling down would make more sense to me if she wasn't perfectly willing to back down when she made the MC cry. And her control over Yui makes zero sense with everything leading up until their sex scene. She should either have Yui wrapped around her finger or not. With all the abuse the MC is getting he should just go home. I never got the feeling he was trapped there. He doesnt seem to like being there and seeing the sisters have sex just makes the player feel like a 3rd wheel.
I really hope it's optional. Call me old fashioned, but I like my femboys to stay femboys
That was never the case, Onori always gloated over her dick being the "winner" against Riko's, but then she conceded that his ass was better than hers and so they were "tied".
She was uncomfortable when Riko called out her behavior at night after the bathhouse scene, but then she resolved to double down and try to "break" Riko instead of recognizing that what she did was wrong.
Also I don't know if you got to the end of Yui's current content but Onori isn't the one responsible for the sisters fucking each other. It was Yui that taught her sisters about sex and pushed them into it after she discovered porn because she thought it would be more fun to have other people to do naughty things with.
Yui regrets and is ashamed of it and is worried that what she did was a bad influence on her sisters, and because of that she has been trying to stop it from happening anymore. But Yui also has a serious problem that when she gets pent up she loses all reason and surrenders to her nympho desires, so when Onori starts making advances she doesn't put up any real resistance and they end up fucking.
She backs down early because she doesn't want to be a mean person and she had just met Riko, so she eases off to not spook him and waits until they get closer before trying to push things further.
She only gets upset and doubles down later because Riko tries to refuse her even after they had already been getting pretty intimate. She thought she had done all the right things, that her and Riko had gotten close to each other and she had made him enjoy it, and then when things are supposed to start getting really fun for both of them he wants to back out of it? That's when she decides that what she needs to do is to not give Riko a choice. That's her rationale.
Also again, I'm not sure if you played Yui's content all the way to the end, I feel their dynamic is pretty clearly explained there. Yui simply loses control when she gets pent up, she doesn't think things through. Basically Yui and Onori have this toxic relationship where they have a fight and stop having sex for a while (in part because Yui wants to get some relief for her dick but Onori is spoiled and only wants to top, and in part because Yui is worried the incest is being a bad influence on her sisters so she wants to cut back on it), then Yui eventually gets pent up, Onori makes an advance, Yui doesn't shut it down and they end up having sex.
They both enjoy having sex with each other but the aftermath is toxic because Onori comes out feeling validated and thinking she was right in being pushy and that she just needs to be persistent to get Yui to do things her way, and Yui comes out of it full of regret feeling like a failure because she can't control her urges and she is rewarding Onori's bad behavior.
That's why they basically have a cycle, Onori doesn't have Yui wrapped around her finger, but eventually she always manages to get laid with her again.
Because the MC is happier here? As much as a he is a flustered pile of nerves who is generally too anxious about trying to do anything new, he wants to change things up and experience new things and grow as a person.
Also he is lonely, he doesn't really have any friends back home and is an only child of a single mother that works a lot. As much as he can feel overwhelmed and uncomfortable with having to deal with a bigger family and such abrasive personalities, he is glad to have people he can spend time with and become friends.
Also the MC is anything but a 3rd wheel, he is pretty central to moving the current situation between the characters forward. The situation between Onori and Yui is delicate, both kind of unsatisfied with where they stand, and Eri is kind of off in her own world. Riko is a "fancy new toy" for all 3 of them and he offers something unique to each of them. For Yui he might be someone she can actually trust and genuinely would want to help her get her nymphomania under control, for Onori he is someone she could potentially dominate and have sex with all the time instead of having to wait for rare opportunities, and with Eri I guess we will see when the next update drops.
LilNawtyLucia
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Yeah I didn't get that far into Yui's content, since she might be the one I like the least out of the family. As for the spoiler, I had a feeling that would be the case. Her content seems to be the most predicable. I spent most of my playtime burning through Onori's content, since I got a soft spot for tanned tomboy brats. I still enjoyed her content all the way up to the actual sex scene.
Maybe I was just expecting the wrong thing, but I think I would have preferred if the girls weren't already having sex with each other, and Riko could have been the catalyst for their sexual overflow, intentionally or not. The boy has great tease potential, but the girls are kinda just doing their own thing already. Which is why he feels like a 3rd wheel to me. He is too passive to control anything, and the girls have other outlets than him. Even more so if Aiko turns out to be a sex friend for Onori. It feels like we jump into the story midway, which while probably more realistic, cuts out a lot of fun fall into depravity content we could have, where the girls lose control of their urges.
I'd probably be a lot less frustrated if there wasn't so much grind. I still wouldn't like the direction it's going in, but I'd be a lot more inclined to give it more of a chance if it weren't so tedious to unlock stuff. Its sandbox nature also doesnt help it keep a consistent tone. Because again, my play through went from a rape scene to a cookie heist, lol
Maybe I was just expecting the wrong thing, but I think I would have preferred if the girls weren't already having sex with each other, and Riko could have been the catalyst for their sexual overflow, intentionally or not. The boy has great tease potential, but the girls are kinda just doing their own thing already. Which is why he feels like a 3rd wheel to me. He is too passive to control anything, and the girls have other outlets than him. Even more so if Aiko turns out to be a sex friend for Onori. It feels like we jump into the story midway, which while probably more realistic, cuts out a lot of fun fall into depravity content we could have, where the girls lose control of their urges.
I'd probably be a lot less frustrated if there wasn't so much grind. I still wouldn't like the direction it's going in, but I'd be a lot more inclined to give it more of a chance if it weren't so tedious to unlock stuff. Its sandbox nature also doesnt help it keep a consistent tone. Because again, my play through went from a rape scene to a cookie heist, lol
I don't think the grind is that much compared to the other sandbox games out there plus the reward for the grind is actually good enough for me
Plus the point you said about the game not keeping a consistent tone. Actually it's not the games fault, the game has a consistent tone.
It you whose solely focusing on one character first and getting her relationship to the max instead of interacting with other characters simultaneously.
Obv you went from a forced scene to a cookie hiest if you only focus on onori to lvl 5 relationship and then do eri level 2 relationship quest
There is level to relationship for the characters for a reason and its to keep a consistent tone.
And that's is also why the dev focus on one character each update and not just on one character every update.
v0.16 Update's coming out the next week!
Content:
- 6 unique CG, 3 unique frames, 2 new outfits, 1 new bg, ~164 Images in total
~4+ New events, including:
· Eri Breakpoint Event #1
· Eri Breakpoint Event #2
· New Self development Event
· Next Eri's Relationship Level!
Other:
- Bugs and typos.
*Released date - 30.10.25
Content:
- 6 unique CG, 3 unique frames, 2 new outfits, 1 new bg, ~164 Images in total
~4+ New events, including:
· Eri Breakpoint Event #1
· Eri Breakpoint Event #2
· New Self development Event
· Next Eri's Relationship Level!
Other:
- Bugs and typos.
*Released date - 30.10.25
LilNawtyLucia
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I wasnt forcing Onori's content though. Eri's was just underdeveloped and had more specific time/date restrictions, while Onori's has way more content and seems to be the "primary" plot. And my complaint was not so much the progression of rape scene to cookie heist, it's that the game can still flip between these two extremes. That is what makes the tone inconsistent. If the game requires you to play the events in a certain order to make sense, then it kinda fails as a sandbox.
If you dont mind the grind then more power to you, buy I personally didn't see much point in grinding out 10 of 1 or 2 of the same scenes with little to no variation just to basically tick a box just to allow normal progression to continue. It was cute to make Riko run laps 3 times to upgrade his stamina, but the extra 7 times of running laps or doing squats felt pointless. It's even worse if you hit a breakpoint and get 0 progress on Onori's relationship.
Movikx
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well... which level she is? thats the thing everyone (probably) will get the deserved scenes with due time, the teasing making you imagine the possibilities honestly make things good, other games would already have some sex scene with mc just because its a porn game