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I've been wanting to play this game for a long time
I'll play it today
But before that I had a few questions
1: Is the MC's character and personality charming? Or is he a pathetic loser stupid who can't defend his love?
2: FMC gradually loses her love for MC? Or is the reason FMC has sex with other men corruption and blackmail and other things that FMC cannot be blamed for
 

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I've been wanting to play this game for a long time
I'll play it today
But before that I had a few questions
1: Is the MC's character and personality charming? Or is he a pathetic loser stupid who can't defend his love?
2: FMC gradually loses her love for MC? Or is the reason FMC has sex with other men corruption and blackmail and other things that FMC cannot be blamed for
1. He has his flaws but he can fight for his love and has shown that in some scenes.
2. No, she doesn't lose her love for the MC, there are many circumstances that force her to do what she does such as fear, desperation, manipulation, trickery, blackmail, sabotage, corruption. Some of the bad endings made some people assume the worst of her, but they didn't realize the hidden circumstances behind everything that happens. There are other forces here at play that conspire against you and her. Just know that there is alot more to the situation then what is immediately obvious or can be initially assumed. There are alot of hints throughout the many routes of the story that give you a better picture of the situation if you add them all together. In the end, she is definitely different than most other heroines that simply get mind broken and stop loving or caring about the protagonist, she is definitely not like that. She has a hidden Yandere-like quality that can trigger in the right circumstance, proving that despite years of corruption and manipulation, etc, her love for the MC is truly something extraordinary.
 
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1. He has his flaws but he can fight for his love and has shown that in some scenes.
2. No, she doesn't lose her love for the MC, there are many circumstances that force her to do what she does such as fear, desperation, manipulation, trickery, blackmail, sabotage, corruption. Some of the bad endings made some people assume the worst of her, but they didn't realize the hidden circumstances behind everything that happens. There are other forces here at play that conspire against you and her. Just know that there is alot more to the situation then what is immediately obvious or can be initially assumed. There are alot of hints throughout the many routes of the story that give you a better picture of the situation if you add them all together. In the end, she is definitely different than most other heroines that simply get mind broken and stop loving or caring about the protagonist, she is definitely not like that. She has a hidden Yandere-like quality that can trigger in the right circumstance, proving that despite years of corruption and manipulation, etc, her love for the MC is truly something extraordinary.
Thanks bro
Then I'll probably like this game
I am a fan of NTR, but I enjoy NTR when first of all, the personality of the MC is such that instead of getting angry at him, I understand that he has done his best and had no choice. Secondly, the FMC's heart is always with the MC, but the logical and justifiable circumstances of the story force her to have sex with other men (if she gradually moves towards corruption and has sex with other men out of sexual desire, it is still okay because it happened to her gradually, and this is completely logical and justifiable, but here again, her heart must be with the MC)
 
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The comments and reviews emphasize so much that NTR in this game is so ruthless that I personally misunderstood and thought that FMC would kill MC for bull at the end of the story, similar to the game Dark Hero Party lol
 

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The comments and reviews emphasize so much that NTR in this game is so ruthless that I personally misunderstood and thought that FMC would kill MC for bull at the end of the story, similar to the game Dark Hero Party lol
Don't worry, that doesn't happen. Some of the people misunderstood the game, perhaps they only skimmed through it or looked at the CG's or made an early judgement without trying to really understand the underlying circumstances behind what's really going on. It can be easy to miss crucial details about the game if you are not careful, skim through it, or don't really pay attention.

Thanks bro
Then I'll probably like this game
I am a fan of NTR, but I enjoy NTR when first of all, the personality of the MC is such that instead of getting angry at him, I understand that he has done his best and had no choice. Secondly, the FMC's heart is always with the MC, but the logical and justifiable circumstances of the story force her to have sex with other men (if she gradually moves towards corruption and has sex with other men out of sexual desire, it is still okay because it happened to her gradually, and this is completely logical and justifiable, but here again, her heart must be with the MC)
No problem! The FMC has alot of good qualities that the bad elements take advantage of for their personal gain, so her own good points are being used against her because these guys know her so well and are very manipulative and she trusted them. She's a really good gal and I don't want people to judge her too harshly for her actions without understanding all the circumstances.
 
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Don't worry, that doesn't happen. Some of the people misunderstood the game, perhaps they only skimmed through it or looked at the CG's or made an early judgement without trying to really understand the underlying circumstances behind what's really going on. It can be easy to miss crucial details about the game if you are not careful, skim through it, or don't really pay attention.



No problem! The FMC has alot of good qualities that the bad elements take advantage of for their personal gain, so her own good points are being used against her because these guys know her so well and are very manipulative and she trusted them. She's a really good gal and I don't want people to judge her too harshly for her actions without understanding all the circumstances.
Nice, I'm sure with your explanations that I will probably enjoy this game a lot, I'll download it tonight

I hope MC also understands the situation like you and doesn't cry and whine
It's okay if he cry and whine because of a misunderstanding
Overall, because I self-insert unintentionally and out of habit, the MC's feelings sometimes affect me

And if you want, I would appreciate it if you could introduce me to NTR-themed games similar to this (what we talked about)
 
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Woo boy... You're in for a ride...

There's like, a bunch of terrible stuff that happens to Misaki and MC through the story, though explaining a lot of the details is tbh quite spoilery.

Though, to partially cover some of your concerns, and add to what the other guy was saying...

Misaki never stops loving the MC. She's tricked into thinking that HE stops loving HER, essentially in certain parts, and she becomes addicted to sex stuff (d'uh, it's NTR), but she never stops loving him. She definitely doesn't try to kill him at any point in the story. (She does threaten to kill someone, but it's not the MC.)

MC, likewise, isn't the manliest man out there, but he does fight for his wife when he finds out what's been going on behind his back... at least, as much as he can in his situation. The opposition involves a dude that's pretty rich, so things don't go well in some choices, while they go gloriously in others.

All that said, Misaki is pretty dumb. Not, unrealistically dumb... but still pretty dumb. A bit under average by "NTR heroine" standards.


I honestly recommend using the guide to get all the endings, and use their recommended order tbh. Getting to that final, last ending, after seeing all the others, is honestly pretty glorious, even for someone like me who doesn't self-insert and doesn't typically sympathize much with characters in Hentai works of all places.
 

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Woo boy... You're in for a ride...

There's like, a bunch of terrible stuff that happens to Misaki and MC through the story, though explaining a lot of the details is tbh quite spoilery.

Though, to partially cover some of your concerns, and add to what the other guy was saying...

Misaki never stops loving the MC. She's tricked into thinking that HE stops loving HER, essentially in certain parts, and she becomes addicted to sex stuff (d'uh, it's NTR), but she never stops loving him. She definitely doesn't try to kill him at any point in the story. (She does threaten to kill someone, but it's not the MC.)

MC, likewise, isn't the manliest man out there, but he does fight for his wife when he finds out what's been going on behind his back... at least, as much as he can in his situation. The opposition involves a dude that's pretty rich, so things don't go well in some choices, while they go gloriously in others.

All that said, Misaki is pretty dumb. Not, unrealistically dumb... but still pretty dumb. A bit under average by "NTR heroine" standards.


I honestly recommend using the guide to get all the endings, and use their recommended order tbh. Getting to that final, last ending, after seeing all the others, is honestly pretty glorious, even for someone like me who doesn't self-insert and doesn't typically sympathize much with characters in Hentai works of all places.
Like Aida said, Misaki is the type of person who hold her hardship inside her heart. Despite her strong tomboy personality, she is very fragile to break and manipulate. She is pretty realistic for me. Her family problem clearly make her become a person who hard to open about herself.
If you love Masashi being a man ending, you're lucky because from the Visual Book and Aida cameo on Maro Gatenkei 3, that ending is the canon one ( Or any endings where Misaki rejecting him). And also, their son is Masashi's.
 

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I hate this game because the fmc and writing are so amazing that it's made some of my favorite games feel cheap! and at the same time I hate the npcs and the ruthless Story so much that I can't bring myself to continue it
This game is a pure masterpiece for the fans of the ruthless NTR
I personally fell in love with fmc, her character and personality are great, her speech is great, everything about her is great
The art and animations are so good especially the animations! (At least until where I played), such a fluid animation for 2010 really took me by surprise
Music and creativity and everything else is great ...
But unfortunately the story and NPCs are extremely cruel so much that I don't want to continue this game and witness the torment of this amazing couple, how can they bring such disasters on Tanaka Misaki! Personally if I was in this story, even if I had the chance, I would never hurt their relationship with sex or anything else!!
So while I really really love to continue it I really really don't want to continue it, I remembered a psychologist friend of mine who always says don't read very dark and ruthless stories it negatively affects your irl mindset, i agree with him
But, if you are interested in the sense of extreme hopelessness/depression, be sure to play this game

The truth is that I used to read really ruthless stories and I enjoyed the extreme sexual tension a lot (for example, I read manhwas that were much darker than this game until the end), but I felt like they were negatively affecting my mindset in irl, I remember when I was reading illicit love my heart rate was at max and I wasn't paying attention during lunch even though I always completely separated the fantasy world from the irl but really dark stories always affect at least a little

But i wish one day a developer would put Misaki's personality and character in a new game with the same appearance, she is literally amazing
 

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I hate this game because the fmc and writing are so amazing that it's made some of my favorite games feel cheap! and at the same time I hate the npcs and the ruthless Story so much that I can't bring myself to continue it
This game is a pure masterpiece for the fans of the ruthless NTR
I personally fell in love with fmc, her character and personality are great, her speech is great, everything about her is great
The art and animations are so good especially the animations! (At least until where I played), such a fluid animation for 2010 really took me by surprise
Music and creativity and everything else is great ...
But unfortunately the story and NPCs are extremely cruel so much that I don't want to continue this game and witness the torment of this amazing couple, how can they bring such disasters on Tanaka Misaki! Personally if I was in this story, even if I had the chance, I would never hurt their relationship with sex or anything else!!
So while I really really love to continue it I really really don't want to continue it, I remembered a psychologist friend of mine who always says don't read very dark and ruthless stories it negatively affects your irl mindset, i agree with him
But, if you are interested in the sense of extreme hopelessness/depression, be sure to play this game

The truth is that I used to read really ruthless stories and I enjoyed the extreme sexual tension a lot (for example, I read manhwas that were much darker than this game until the end), but I felt like they were negatively affecting my mindset in irl, I remember when I was reading illicit love my heart rate was at max and I wasn't paying attention during lunch even though I always completely separated the fantasy world from the irl but really dark stories always afflect at least a little

But i wish one day a developer would put Misaki's personality and character in a new game with the same appearance, she is literally amazing
What an Amazingreview. I agree, Dotenmeikai put emphasize about character personality on his writing. Some people probably annoyed with slow pacing in the begining because he wants player to know and become intimate with Misaki personality. That's why unlike many NTR eroge, NTR in this game become more painful and impactful.

There's a reason why NPC on this game is ruthless. Before more focused on NTR eroge ,Elf were known as eroge studio with Dark Thriller mystery studio, most of their game are about detective story who solve mystery about Killer or Depraved individua, and oh boy,their NTR villai actually less depraved than their thriller viallins.

Aida, Shirobara , and Kurokawa are bunch of jerk manilpulator that doesn't only want to steal Misaki from Masashi.I love their character wasn't one dimensional characters. They want to make Misaki as their own. No matter how cruel what their method was. That's why i don't blame you if you can't handle them. I often close the game whenever i read their part hahahhaa. But, i also thought it was the selling point of this game. The drama, eroticism, and sorrow mixed together, not only on ero event. It's aldo happened on normal conversation part. I really wish e have another game like Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei again in the future.
 
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I hate this game because the fmc and writing are so amazing that it's made some of my favorite games feel cheap! and at the same time I hate the npcs and the ruthless Story so much that I can't bring myself to continue it
This game is a pure masterpiece for the fans of the ruthless NTR
I personally fell in love with fmc, her character and personality are great, her speech is great, everything about her is great
The art and animations are so good especially the animations! (At least until where I played), such a fluid animation for 2010 really took me by surprise
Music and creativity and everything else is great ...
But unfortunately the story and NPCs are extremely cruel so much that I don't want to continue this game and witness the torment of this amazing couple, how can they bring such disasters on Tanaka Misaki! Personally if I was in this story, even if I had the chance, I would never hurt their relationship with sex or anything else!!
So while I really really love to continue it I really really don't want to continue it, I remembered a psychologist friend of mine who always says don't read very dark and ruthless stories it negatively affects your irl mindset, i agree with him
But, if you are interested in the sense of extreme hopelessness/depression, be sure to play this game

The truth is that I used to read really ruthless stories and I enjoyed the extreme sexual tension a lot (for example, I read manhwas that were much darker than this game until the end), but I felt like they were negatively affecting my mindset in irl, I remember when I was reading illicit love my heart rate was at max and I wasn't paying attention during lunch even though I always completely separated the fantasy world from the irl but really dark stories always affect at least a little

But i wish one day a developer would put Misaki's personality and character in a new game with the same appearance, she is literally amazing
What an Amazingreview. I agree, Dotenmeikai put emphasize about character personality on his writing. Some people probably annoyed with slow pacing in the begining because he wants player to know and become intimate with Misaki personality. That's why unlike many NTR eroge, NTR in this game become more painful and impactful.

There's a reason why NPC on this game is ruthless. Before more focused on NTR eroge , they were known as eroge studio with Dark Thriller mystery studio, most of their game are about detective story who solv mystery about Killer or Depraved individua, and oh boy,their NTR villai actually less depraved than their thriller viallins.

Aida, Shirobara , and Kurokawa are bunch of jerk manilpulator that doesn't only want to steal Misaki from Masashi.I love their character wasn't one dimensional characters. They want to make Misaki as their own. No matter how cruel what their method was. That's why i don't blame you if you can't handle them. I often close the game whenever i read their part hahahhaa. But, i also thought it was the selling point of this game. The drama, eroticism, and sorrow mixed together, not only on ero event. It's aldo happened on normal conversation part. I really wish e have another game like Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei again in the future.
Agreed, it was an amazing review indeed! It certainly wanted to show who Misaki was so that you could understand her better and fall in love with her just as the MC did, it does make the tragic abuse that she had to suffer all the more painful. I think that was the point, to make the game longer and slower to get you more emotionally invested in the series, and form an attachment to the characters. There's a fourth manipulator as well,
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. Reading some parts can make you cry or feel a bit down or some sense of depression or angst. However there is a bright side or a light at the end of the tunnel, a form of salvation, you can say, depending on your choices.

I would love to see more games with Misaki as a character. I personally am working on trying to make an AI chat bot based on Misaki. It's a work in progress but I could use some suggestions for improvement.
 
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Ah yes! Gatenkei translated at last.
Great day.

Look up on the ntr vns by lilim darkness.
They always have revenge option, and in gruesome ways.
Too bad all are untranslated.
I played triangle blue and maan, MC Asato was something else.
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I will try other lilim darkness games as well, if they are mostly similar.
 

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any NTR game like this ? i mean brutal and ruthless game , it would be better if the female character becomes cruel over time :)
 

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I would love to see more games with Misaki as a character. I personally am working on trying to make an AI chat bot based on Misaki. It's a work in progress but I could use some suggestions for improvement.
If a group chat could be created for all the people in the game, it would be great.
Imagine in a few years, AI art will be bug-free and fast. At that time, this game can practically be turned into an endless game!
I am very eagerly looking forward to the next few years and the relative evolution of AI
 

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If a group chat could be created for all the people in the game, it would be great.
Imagine in a few years, AI art will be bug-free and fast. At that time, this game can practically be turned into an endless game!
I am very eagerly looking forward to the next few years and the relative evolution of AI
The AI is capable of role-playing as and controlling multiple people at once from what I understand. Yeah, it would be great if AI could one day be able to extend and continue the game since the original writer isn't available. Ideally it would analyze everything about the game to be able to understand everyone's personality, and the writer's original intentions, and predict all sorts of what if situations, and filling in the blanks, giving us everything that we want from the game. As it currently stands, you'd need to write all the relevant text for the AI since there isn't any known way for the AI to just play the game by itself. I wish there was a way to copy and paste all the text from the game. The trouble is the game files are sealed with no easy way to access all the text that could simply be copied and pasted to program an AI.
 
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The AI is capable of role-playing as and controlling multiple people at once from what I understand. Yeah, it would be great if AI could one day be able to extend and continue the game since the original writer isn't available. Ideally it would analyze everything about the game to be able to understand everyone's personality, and the writer's original intentions, and predict all sorts of what if situations, and filling in the blanks, giving us everything that we want from the game. As it currently stands, you'd need to write all the relevant text for the AI since there isn't any known way for the AI to just play the game by itself. I wish there was a way to copy and paste all the text from the game. The trouble is the game files are sealed with no easy way to access all the text that could simply be copied and pasted to program an AI.
Saikey Studios has translated it. If you ask them, they will send you the text because it is currently included with the game, meaning it is free
 
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