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Joshy92

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Yes, I will eventually give the possibility to have something like that.
That sounds hot. I already loved that scene where we saw Hayley giving a BJ and when we could talk to her in the change room

Good luck with development dude.
 

RedPillBlues

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I'm only going to do it if it's something the people who are paying for are scrambling for.
If you don't have any current plans for a Non-NTR route, can we at least rid of the romance tag and the ambiguous "Can you get through this Summer with your girlfriend? Or will you lose her for good?" if/when you get ownership of the thread?
 

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Did... you really get offended by my post in any way? No sarcasm, i'm asking because in my eyes i didn't write anything that bad to deserve that, but okay i guess.
And yes, i wrote that much because i cared about my questions (not your game) being answered and i strongly believed that me talking to you can be done in a civil and mature way and in the end i'd have my answers and we can close this talk normaly and are both happy. If something i wrote made you upset, you could have said so in a normal manner and i would have rephrased or explained better or something like that. Instead you chose to be an ass.
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homogenous globs? No, I don't see people like that. I chose "NTR community" because NTR would still be (most likely) the more dominant demand of your playerbase, that doesn't automatically exclude the subgenres of NTR, anything else, or put them all into one glob as you called it. Theres no need to exaggerate like this. It was very clear what i meant and the Traits and expressions of every individual person weren't a part of it, hence i took a broader term. It's a bit sad that this homogenous glob thing was the only thing of worth you took out of this part.
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Ah yes... from this point on you just turn my words around ignoring the rest. Support you after how you lash out at me for absolute no reason? You gotta be joking...
Also i didn't say you take pity on me, wherever you did get that from. You're pretty damn fixated on single words i used, i'm amazed. You don't have to take everything so literally. A person who plays for the NTR probably wouldn't want you to waste time on the Non-NTR route. Of course if you have a person who likes both they maybe would, i won't deny that. But i doubt that's much the case here. Make a Poll. Here, on patreon and on your discord and you'll see what i mean. And then ask again why i say something like "enough people like me". You never saw a pie chart in your life? If we have a theme and know the exact numbers of the theme we can detect minor groups and major ones. Mindblowing i know, but wait there's more. If we'd take Tags and themes this game will have there will bigger and smaller Parts. They don't take into account everyones personal traits and expressions either, so don't throw words like "homogenous glob" my way just because i probably named one of the bigger ones.

But since you like to turn around words so much, i have one for you:
"there's only people here to jerk off and if the people who will be paying for the game decide they want a different route to jack it to, then it is something that I am willing to consider adding in for them."

So you say everyone playing your game is and thinks the same. No individual thinking, no different personal tastes from one to another, there is no one in a minority/majority everyone is fine with every opinion, They all just want to jack off to something. How did you call that again, homogenous glob?
You probably didn't mean it like that and neither did i in my earlier post when i used "NTR community". So stop framing people in a wrong way just because you can't take a simple word.

It's as simple as this: there is no fucking "NTR community"
Ah yes, good one... Let's just say i disagree with that wholeheartedly, dumbest thing i've heard this year so far.
You're way to full of yourself, not even able to take the slighest bit of critique. Maybe keep the "humouring" for yourself if you don't plan to confront the argument and instead dodging everything in a childish manner.

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So, still no Poll? Why that? Was i right then? Did you realize that the poll would have prooven the point i gave above. Seems your bark is worse than your bite, as always with dudes like you.
 
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Larry2000

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To clarify, it's not something I'm saying that I'm waffling on whether or not to do. There isn't a decision to be made yet. If a lot of people want it, I'll do it. And by a lot of people, I mean my patrons and subscribers or people who buy the game on Itch. I'm not going to write alternate paths into the game to satisfy the whims of people who don't like games like this on here. I'll explain my decisions and while the bough may bend, it won't break.



It would be fairly easy for me to adjust the screenplay to add in a non-NTR route, but like I said, I'm only going to do it if it's something the people who are paying for are scrambling for. I'd put all the effort that work deserves into that route but it wouldn't alter anything I've already done. It'd be like putting another brick onto a brick wall.
Look, I understand that you “think” that, but I’ve never seen a writer just decide to add something and it magically working. Writing and directions is hard, that’s why shows and programming with 10-20 man writing teams can get it wrong too. So when you say “don’t worry, it’s just like adding a brick into the wall” it makes me wary.

That’s like Quinten Tarantino writing a family friendly Pulp Fiction. A story designed one way can’t just decide to make a story another way on whim, at least in my opinion.

But if you think you can do what millions others have failed at, be my guest and good luck!
 
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I just want the MC to have a revenge route bro, just ruin all these fuckers lives. Not be some pathetic beta bitch, Just hope the MC is not a pure dense retard like the original game.
 
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Drexelhand

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Did... you get offended by my post in any way? No sarcasm, i'm honestly asking because in my eyes i didn't write anything that bad to deserve that, but okay i guess.
And yes, i wrote that much because i cared about my questions and i strongly believed that me talking to you can be done in a civil and mature way and at the end i have my information and we can close this talk normaly and are both happy. If something i wrote made you upset, you could have said so in a normal manner and i would have rephrased or explained better or something like that. Wouldn't have been a problem at all since i wasn't intending to start beef with you, just to get that out of the way. But seems you already threw that out of the window.

homogenous globs? No, I don't see people like that. You're on this forum since 2017 and i'm pretty sure you know how NTR threads here can be. I chose "NTR community" because NTR would still be (most likely) the more dominant demand of your playerbase, that doesn't automatically exclude the subgenres of NTR, anything else, or put them all into one glob as you called it. Theres no need to exaggerate like this. It was very clear what i meant and the Traits and expressions of every individual person weren't a part of it, hence i took a broader term. hope that's enough to clear this up, although it's a bit sad that this homogenous glob thing was the only thing of worth you took out of this part.

Ah yes... from this point on you just turn my words around ignoring the rest.
Also i didn't say YOU take pity on me, wherever you did get that from. You're pretty fixated on single words i used, i'm amazed. You don't have to take everything so literally. A person who plays for the NTR probably wouldn't want you to waste time on the Non-NTR route. Of course if you have a person who likes both they maybe would, i won't deny that. But i doubt that's much the case here. Make a Poll. Here, on patreon and on your discord and you'll see what i mean. And then ask again why i say something like "enough people like me". You never saw a pie chart in your life? If we have a theme and know the exact numbers of the theme we can detect minor groups and major ones. Mindblowing i know, but wait there's more. If we'd take Tags and themes this game will have there will bigger and smaller Parts. They don't take into account everyones personal traits and expressions either, so don't throw words like "homogenous glob" my way just because i probably named one of the bigger ones.

But since you like to turn around words so much, i have one for you:
"there's only people here to jerk off and if the people who will be paying for the game decide they want a different route to jack it to, then it is something that I am willing to consider adding in for them."

So you say everyone playing your game is and thinks the same. No individual thinking, no different personal tastes from one to another, there is no one in a minority/majority everyone is fine with every opinion, They all just want to jack off to something. How did you call that again, homogenous glob?
You probably didn't mean it like that and neither did i in my earlier post when i used "NTR community". So stop framing people in a wrong way just because you can't take a simple word.

It's as simple as this: there is no fucking "NTR community"
Ah yes, good one... Let's just say i disagree with that wholeheartedly, but i don't want to change your view on this. That's not my problem to solve. I might have been wrong to think we could talk normaly with each other.
Honestly bro, if you care about my game so much that you're willing to write miniature essays about it to debate the use of single words and logical fallacies, then subscribe or be my patron. But if you want to talk normally with somebody, then how about you do just that next time?

All I have to say to you is this: if the people who are paying to support me want a route, then I am willing to consider adding it.

If you have a problem with that, I don't really care because you're not paying to support me.
 
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Drexelhand

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Look, I understand that you “think” that, but I’ve never seen a writer just decide to add something and it magically working. Writing and directions is hard, that’s why shows and programming with 10-20 man writing teams can get it wrong too. So when you say “don’t worry, it’s just like adding a brick into the wall” it makes me wary.

That’s like Quinten Tarantino writing a family friendly Pulp Fiction. A story designed one way can’t just decide to make a story another way on whim, at least in my opinion.

But if you think you can do what millions others have failed at, be my guest and good luck!
I wrote a response to you detailing exactly why I could do it but I deleted it. If your analogy is Pulp Fiction, a movie that had a crew of hundreds, instead of a VN which failed, then I don't see the point in discussing this with you. I could bring up VNs that failed to add additional routes with you, I could bring up some which successfully did so as well. But it doesn't matter, not really, because nobody is demanding something like this of me.
 
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Drexelhand

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I just want the MC to have a revenge route bro, just ruin all these fuckers lives. Not be some pathetic beta bitch, Just hope the MC is not a pure dense retard like the original game.
And you will. As for him being dense? He's still an idiot at times.
 

Larry2000

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I wrote a response to you detailing exactly why I could do it but I deleted it. If your analogy is Pulp Fiction, a movie that had a crew of hundreds, instead of a VN which failed, then I don't see the point in discussing this with you. I could bring up VNs that failed to add additional routes with you, I could bring up some which successfully did so as well. But it doesn't matter, not really, because nobody is demanding something like this of me.
To start, I wasn’t being critical or rude to you, so I don’t understand the attitude in “I see no reason to discuss this with you”

Pulp Fiction was not written by hundreds, it was smaller in scope.
The movie was written by two people, with most of it being written by one. But that wasn’t even my point, my point was that even someone with the esteem and focus that a director like Quinton Tarantino couldn’t just add something because someone asked for it.

Lastly, I’m aware that people wouldn’t ask, but I just said it to encourage your current vision. I wasn’t holding you down and forcing you to do it. The most critical thing i said was I don’t think you could simply write it in as just another brick in a wall. That’s not a critique as it is a proven fact that those things don’t usually work out on a whim. I could write something like that too, doesn’t mean it’ll be any good.

Have a good one and good luck!
 
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Drexelhand

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To start, I wasn’t being critical or rude to you, so I don’t understand the attitude in “I see no reason to discuss this with you”

Pulp Fiction was not written by hundreds, it was smaller in scope.
The movie was written by two people, with most of it being written by one. But that wasn’t even my point, my point was that even someone with the esteem and focus that a director like Quinton Tarantino couldn’t just add something because someone asked for it.

Lastly, I’m aware that people wouldn’t ask, but I just said it to encourage your current vision. I wasn’t holding you down and forcing you to do it. The most critical thing i said was I don’t think you could simply write it in as just another brick in a wall. That’s not a critique as it is a proven fact that those things don’t usually work out on a whim. I could write something like that too, doesn’t mean it’ll be any good.

Have a good one and good luck!
Look, I'm sorry if I was rude, I'm running on a few hours of sleep here.

But quite frankly, I wouldn't be doing it on a whim. Everything would be planned. Think of it like this, the screenplay I've written is immutable. Nothing would change. Writing in this new route would be akin to making DLC for it and I'd be able to keep my release schedule intact simply by making the proper adjustments while working when needed.
 
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Frumi

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Honestly bro, if you care about my game so much that you're willing to write miniature essays about it to debate the use of single words and logical fallacies, then subscribe or be my patron. But if you want to talk normally with somebody, then how about you do just that next time?

All I have to say to you is this: if the people who are paying to support me want a route, then I am willing to consider adding it.

If you have a problem with that, I don't really care because you're not paying to support me.
So, now my "essays" are bothersome, sorry that i wanted to know things and for trying to be helpful.
I was just normaly and patiently waiting for your reply when you suddenly started to lash back at me for god damn nothing, i wasn't the one who called your game a cuckfest. I probably would have supported if you read and understood my first "essay". But no thx, i'm good now. I'll find someone with a better attitude to support.
And learn to read, i cared about my questions being answered, not your game. :FacePalm:
Anyway, have fun and still "good luck" developing and stuff.

I'll be waiting if this gets abandoned too at some point, just to get a laugh out of it.
 
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Larry2000

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Look, I'm sorry if I was rude, I'm running on a few hours of sleep here.

But quite frankly, I wouldn't be doing it on a whim. Everything would be planned. Think of it like this, the screenplay I've written is immutable. Nothing would change. Writing in this new route would be akin to making DLC for it and I'd be able to keep my release schedule intact simply by making the proper adjustments while working when needed.
Nah, don’t worry about it, I get it. Annoyance slips out sometimes, it happens to me sometimes.

I get what you mean by DLC, but I guess you’re not understanding my meaning. I’m not talking about physically writing the stories, I’m talking conceptually.

For example, could you turn Pulp Fiction into a comedy about Marcellus Wallace and Butch after the Gimp scene of them eating donuts together? Sure. Does it fit the theme and pacing of the movie and the characters motivations? Not really.

That said, I suppose if you ARE thinking of giving the MC a path where he only wins, you could just make a whole new game centered on that. That way the theming is consistent throughout. That or the DLC is just an build without the cucking or whatever.

Just my two cents once again.

:D
 

Drexelhand

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So, now my "essays" are bothersome, sorry that i wanted to know things and for trying to be helpful.
I was just normaly and patiently waiting for your reply when you suddenly started to lash back at me for god damn nothing, i wasn't the one who called your game a cuckfest. I probably would have supported if you read and understood my first essay. But no thx, i'm good now. I'll find someone with a better attitude.
Anyway, have fun and still good luck developing and stuff.
Adios.
 

Drexelhand

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Nah, don’t worry about it, I get it. Annoyance slips out sometimes, it happens to me sometimes.

I get what you mean by DLC, but I guess you’re not understanding my meaning. I’m not talking about physically writing the stories, I’m talking conceptually.

For example, could you turn Pulp Fiction into a comedy about Marcellus Wallace and Butch after the Gimp scene of them eating donuts together? Sure. Does it fit the theme and pacing of the movie and the characters motivations? Not really.

That said, I suppose if you ARE thinking of giving the MC a path where he only wins, you could just make a whole new game centered on that. That way the theming is consistent throughout. That or the DLC is just an build without the cucking or whatever.

Just my two cents once again.

:D
I see. Here's the thing, I still think that the analogy of Pulp Fiction is wrong to use because film's are too... singular a narrative. It might work if I was making a kinetic novel, but I'm not. To better demonstrate my point, take Mass Effect 3, it's a very dour, serious game and it is tonally consistent through all of the paths which were implemented in the base game. But the Citadel DLC? It's very humorous, almost contrary to the tone of the rest of the game. Yet it doesn't affect the rest of the game and that game is immutable without it.

But as for your suggestion, you're right. I absolutely could do that and I'm not going to rule out doing so because to give you another video game example, Halo ODST was originally just supposed to be DLC and it became its own game. Or maybe look at Hungover Cat's office game, it split into two games I believe.
 
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Joshy92

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I'm just here for the hot babes and the sexy fun times they'll be having. And yeah, Hayley is a sexy little tease.
 

Larry2000

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I see. Here's the thing, I still think that the analogy of Pulp Fiction is wrong to use because film's are too... singular a narrative. It might work if I was making a kinetic novel, but I'm not. To better demonstrate my point, take Mass Effect 3, it's a very dour, serious game and it is tonally consistent through all of the paths which were implemented in the base game. But the Citadel DLC? It's very humorous, almost contrary to the tone of the rest of the game. Yet it doesn't affect the rest of the game and that game is immutable without it.

But as for your suggestion, you're right. I absolutely could do that and I'm not going to rule out doing so because to give you another video game example, Halo ODST was originally just supposed to be DLC and it became its own game. Or maybe look at Hungover Cat's office game, it split into two games I believe.
Yeah, I didn’t use Pulp Fiction because it’s a 1 to 1 example, but because it illustrates my point. Of course they are different.

If you do go with the split where the guy wins, DO hit me up. I like that dynamic, just hate the getting cucked stuff. I’m Just hopeful you make an entirely different game with that as a goal. I can dream can’t I?

:)
 

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Was it made better, I heard the revenge in that was not even that good.
Actually it was the opposite.It was absolutely fucking glorious!!The dude had a movie night with gf's parents and popped her movies which she was clearly getting railed by a big cock while she was asking for his cum :D:D:D Telling her see Mia thats what you are.You a fucking cheating whore lol lol.And actually smacked the big cock dude she was cheating with and gave him a bloody face the next day.I am still laughingon the whole scene.
 
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