Same , i will wait the dev do something for that , i will not play until the problem is resolved
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Was your original plan to have it so that if you didn't pick absolutely all the right choices, then in release after release you would never have access to these scenes, and no future chance of building up enough points for them? Because the way it works now it isn't really a points based system, it's a system based on very specific choices, and the points are just an illusion.
It's good that you are adjusting the points required for the scenes, but have you considered if there is any good reason for the points at all? Is there anything interesting in the game to experience if you gain anything else than a high(est) amount of points? A different scene or dialogue for a medium amount of points, or even a low amount? Because now it seems like a binary between focusing all your choices towards this or that character. Again my point (heh) about it not being truly points based, but choice based in practise.
I don’t want to give away too much about what I have in mind and planned for the future of my AVN,especially because I’d feel like a hypocrite if I ended up changing my mind.
The idea behind my game is to let players unlock different Routes based on their preferences, and, if they wish, also experiment with alternative scenarios to see what would happen if they had made different choices.
Giulia’s role will become increasingly crucial in Anna and Alex’s story, but that doesn’t necessarily mean she’ll drag their relationship into an NTR Route… But no spoilers for now
Rather than calling my system an illusion of choice, I’d say it’s a system where some Routes are locked if you don’t make the right choices. I understand it’s a pretty divisive system, especially now that free-to-play players don’t have an official guide to follow, but the fact remains that if you reach the required score to unlock every scene, you absolutely can make those choices.
In the upcoming chapter, which I’ve been working on for over a month, I’ve adjusted this system by lowering the points needed to unlock scenes. However, it’s not retroactive for previous chapters yet, though I’m considering lightening it a bit before release (meaning slightly lower Lust Point thresholds for important choices).
Looking back, I should have added two modes at the start of the game: an easy mode where you could access all scenes without worrying about points, and a hard mode like the one currently in place. But at the time of release, I simply wasn’t capable of implementing that.
The great thing about this experience is that I’m learning so much, and I truly appreciate all the feedback you’ve been giving me.
i dont recall making any choices that is not netori or cuckquean related so to suddenly get into mono or nts situation just confused me.I don’t want to give away too much about what I have in mind and planned for the future of my AVN,especially because I’d feel like a hypocrite if I ended up changing my mind.
The idea behind my game is to let players unlock different Routes based on their preferences, and, if they wish, also experiment with alternative scenarios to see what would happen if they had made different choices.
Giulia’s role will become increasingly crucial in Anna and Alex’s story, but that doesn’t necessarily mean she’ll drag their relationship into an NTR Route… But no spoilers for now
your idea is cool, i actually think its good but to suddenly have a mono or nts choice suddenly thrown in when ive been in netori and cuckquean path without knowing how that happened kinda sucks. i would have liked to know if i made a wrong choice or is it a plot armor kind of situation. maybe at the end of day summary could include what route we are on or something to let us know that our route didnt get sidetracked would be nice.
ill let you cook in regards to guila since you are a certified master chef. i'll patiently wait for your updates.
thanks for your response and have a nice day
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100% this. Wtf is the point of opening CQ route....only to have to confirm it again later...and then be forced into one of two other paths.
Like..what a fucking waste of time and space
I didn’t play the game yet but I wouldn’t like to have something It doesn’t correspond to my choice.In addition he said 4 routes so they should be totally separate.
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Heh..well he also said there is a monog and a faithful route. Like...are those not exactly the same thing?
Giving up with it...waste of time and like oithers have said, the stupid point system is also a joke.
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I played several routes and they seperate, but there are also elements that would interfere.
1 you can play both faithfull, but that would be overall boring, and probably no content
2 you can choose Mc being with other girls, while the FMC is cuckqueen
3 you can do the sharing, where both see others and tell eachother.
4 you can MC faithfull, but girlfriend can see other guys, so you basicly a cuck
5 you can pretend be faithfull as both mc and fmc and sleep with others without telling
point 2 to 5 are sure in game, now the elements to interfere are there girls who want to be more to the mc then fuckbuddies, but also the FMC lives with a pornstar who want to corrupt her.
The point system doesn't bother me, but yes it kinda made to rule girls in or out if got not enough points with them, but why it doesn't bother me as 1 girls is a femdom bitch and 1 girl is a trap, so keep it to a friend level with them is good enough for me.
Point 1 to each one his preference.
U didn’t really understand what I mean lol Yeah elements can interfere,but it should be by choice which didn’t seem be the case according mavi post.
No problem with that, everyone plays what they like.
I think the whole story is build around open relationship though, so main path is netorase, sharing, or cuck/cuckqueen, but there is also the ntr path ofcourse, which i personaly don't play to much either, unless it a really good story for it. I like more point 2 and 3, 4 can also if it not humiliation cuck, but more stag cuck.
And long distance relations are very rare to work anyway, my hubby was in one for about 5 years before I met him and it ended bad for him. So I can understand they choose for open relation option, but there risk that they find someone else they get feelings for too.
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Came here because of your mention of cuckqueaning in the other thread
Convo is a bit confusing but my read is that the routes function by suppressing content, as in if both cheat you may get every scene (maybe with variations), whereas if they share consensually there are scenes you may have to pass? I'm asking because I've barely started playing, and in the truth or dare game, the only way to get max score (and to be able to make the boldest dare) is to send the dick pic, which flags as cheating. Will the rest of the game be like that? Turning down opportunities because you didn't have a chance to talk with the other first, or just cheating away?I think where a lot of people's confusion here is coming from is that the process of selecting which route you're on is not entirely clear. Most of it is pretty straightforward, but some routes do get locked depending on the choices you make, and that is not at all obvious until it's too late. Specifically you see this in the cuckquean route. To access it, as far as I can tell, you have to have maxed out points with Anna before she confronts you about being in Sharon's room (if you've taken that path), and you need to side with her in that argument. If you choose to stand up for yourself, or if you peeked at Sharon in the changing rooms instead of texting Anna, then the cuckquean route is locked, and you don't find that out until Anna forces you into the nts or monogamy/cheating paths. Basically, you have to choose between having a healthy cuckquean dynamic with Anna, or pursuing Sharon at all. Which makes sense given the animosity between those two, but Anna doesn't actually ask the player to keep away from Sharon until after the choices that lock you out of the cuckquean route have already been made, so the end result feels a little disingenuous. Especially since the game gives you the option to reaffirm your choice of the cuckquean route, only to railroad you out of it if you made the wrong choices beforehand.
Basically, while pretty much every other route is clear in how you access it, you tell Anna what you want and follow through (or don't), this one route has extra hidden requirements that lock you out of it with no warning. There are a few ways this could be made less jarring. One is moving the conversation where Anna establishes a boundary against Alex pursuing Sharon to a much earlier point, so the player is aware that choosing her over Anna will have consequences down the line greater than just a missed scene or two, which is all the point system has really accounted for up to that point. I understand how that could mess up the flow of the game though, the boundary conversation does fit and feel natural where it is in the game right now, it just leaves the gravity of the Sharon/Anna choice unnecessarily obtuse. The other option, which I think could go much more smoothly, is to continue to allow the player to change routes as the game progresses. At some point sure, it will make sense that there's no going back, but I think it would benefit the story and the play experience to not quite lock a particular route in or out just yet. So maybe if Alex can make up with Anna enough in the next chapter, the option of selecting the cuckquean route could reopen if it was locked before. Or even for players who pursue other routes, the option to try something out to see if they're interested before getting another option later on to change routes if they want could make the play experience much more rewarding.
I didn't expect to go on this long lol. Uh, fun game so far! Hope to see things get even kinkier and more intense down the line!
Basically, while pretty much every other route is clear in how you access it, you tell Anna what you want and follow through (or don't), this one route has extra hidden requirements that lock you out of it with no warning. There are a few ways this could be made less jarring. One is moving the conversation where Anna establishes a boundary against Alex pursuing Sharon to a much earlier point, so the player is aware that choosing her over Anna will have consequences down the line greater than just a missed scene or two, which is all the point system has really accounted for up to that point. I understand how that could mess up the flow of the game though, the boundary conversation does fit and feel natural where it is in the game right now, it just leaves the gravity of the Sharon/Anna choice unnecessarily obtuse. The other option, which I think could go much more smoothly, is to continue to allow the player to change routes as the game progresses. At some point sure, it will make sense that there's no going back, but I think it would benefit the story and the play experience to not quite lock a particular route in or out just yet. So maybe if Alex can make up with Anna enough in the next chapter, the option of selecting the cuckquean route could reopen if it was locked before. Or even for players who pursue other routes, the option to try something out to see if they're interested before getting another option later on to change routes if they want could make the play experience much more rewarding.
I didn't expect to go on this long lol. Uh, fun game so far! Hope to see things get even kinkier and more intense down the line!
to be honest I didn’t play the game,I mentioned like the dev described to me 1st time.I was hoping that the dev have clarified thing but obviously not lolCame here because of your mention of cuckqueaning in the other thread
In my game, all the girls will have 3 Routes (Heartbreak, Friendship, Love). Some of these options will already be available in the next version (0.5) for certain girls, while for others they will be unlocked later in the story.
Anna is an exception and will have multiple Paths:
- Loyalty
- 'Monogamy' (the quotation marks are there for a reason, even if I understand that those who haven’t played at least once won’t be able to get the meaning yet lol)
- Cuckqueen
- Cuckold
- NTS
- NTR
The next update will be released around late August/early September for subscribers, and two weeks later it will also be published here on F95
The NTS Route already started in the previous chapter
The Truth or Dare with Sierra (the pink-haired girl) is a unique dynamic in my game; it doesn’t repeat at other points in the story, even though in the future there will be a live Truth or Dare scene involving multiple characters. I want to make it special, with lots of different endings depending on the player’s choices, so it will take time (and also needs to happen at the right moment in the story).Came here because of your mention of cuckqueaning in the other thread
At the time I’m writing this post,
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Throughout the game, you’ll need to make choices, and based on those choices, there will be consequences. If you’re still early on, I recommend making multiple saves so you can experience all the dialogue options and NSFW scenes :3
To answer your question: Yes, there will be moments where the couple mutually agrees to be with other people, as well as plenty of pure cheating.
Great analysis. I can tell you that I’m at the end of Chapter 5’s development, and Anna’s different Routes have really drained me this time. Creating an interactive adventure that isn’t just a kinetic novel has always been my dream, but I’m experiencing firsthand why almost no one does it. That’s why I can’t really move too many narrative elements around.
As I wrote above, the final goal is to have 4 Routes with Anna (excluding the breakup one). If, for example, I had to consider switching the NTS Route into an NTR, Cuckqueen, or Loyalty Route, it would be hell. My time would be wasted rewriting storylines I’ve already completed months ago, and at the level of dialogue and coding it would be a disaster: imagine a Ren’Py script where 60–70% of the text is just small variations in dialogue that only a handful of players would ever see. That wouldn’t be very effective, right?
That said, I also want to thank you for the explanations you’ve given to other users. Before releasing Chapter 5, I’m actually changing some dialogues in Chapters 3 and 4 to give players a clearer sense of which Route they’re taking with Anna, making every piece of content in my AVN more accessible. On top of that, I’m working on making the Lust Point System lighter—I want players to struggle less to unlock NSFW scenes (not all of them, though. For example, Sierra’s Truth or Dare will still require the same amount of points), but for Anna, I’d like to lower the requirements for certain Routes.
people are using the IRL definition of Loyal and monogamousIn my game, all the girls will have 3 Routes (Heartbreak, Friendship, Love). Some of these options will already be available in the next version (0.5) for certain girls, while for others they will be unlocked later in the story.
Anna is an exception and will have multiple Paths:
Two of the Paths above will eventually merge and turn into NTR, effectively giving the player the chance to unlock 4 unique Routes with Anna. Some of them will have plenty of content (like the NTS Route), while others will have much less (Absolute Loyalty).
- Loyalty
- 'Monogamy' (the quotation marks are there for a reason, even if I understand that those who haven’t played at least once won’t be able to get the meaning yet lol)
- Cuckqueen
- Cuckold
- NTS
- NTR
The next update will be released around late August/early September for subscribers, and two weeks later it will also be published here on F95
The NTS Route already started in the previous chapter
The Truth or Dare with Sierra (the pink-haired girl) is a unique dynamic in my game; it doesn’t repeat at other points in the story, even though in the future there will be a live Truth or Dare scene involving multiple characters. I want to make it special, with lots of different endings depending on the player’s choices, so it will take time (and also needs to happen at the right moment in the story).
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Throughout the game, you’ll need to make choices, and based on those choices, there will be consequences. If you’re still early on, I recommend making multiple saves so you can experience all the dialogue options and NSFW scenes :3
To answer your question: Yes, there will be moments where the couple mutually agrees to be with other people, as well as plenty of pure cheating.
Great analysis. I can tell you that I’m at the end of Chapter 5’s development, and Anna’s different Routes have really drained me this time. Creating an interactive adventure that isn’t just a kinetic novel has always been my dream, but I’m experiencing firsthand why almost no one does it. That’s why I can’t really move too many narrative elements around.
As I wrote above, the final goal is to have 4 Routes with Anna (excluding the breakup one). If, for example, I had to consider switching the NTS Route into an NTR, Cuckqueen, or Loyalty Route, it would be hell. My time would be wasted rewriting storylines I’ve already completed months ago, and at the level of dialogue and coding it would be a disaster: imagine a Ren’Py script where 60–70% of the text is just small variations in dialogue that only a handful of players would ever see. That wouldn’t be very effective, right?
That said, I also want to thank you for the explanations you’ve given to other users. Before releasing Chapter 5, I’m actually changing some dialogues in Chapters 3 and 4 to give players a clearer sense of which Route they’re taking with Anna, making every piece of content in my AVN more accessible. On top of that, I’m working on making the Lust Point System lighter—I want players to struggle less to unlock NSFW scenes (not all of them, though. For example, Sierra’s Truth or Dare will still require the same amount of points), but for Anna, I’d like to lower the requirements for certain Routes.
the confusion comes from there.
Come on, 'Loyal' is pretty self-explanatory. I think what caused the confusion was the content of the Monogamous route, given its namepeople are using the IRL definition of Loyal and monogamous
hope cuckquean path have a lot content unless u have death wishCome on, 'Loyal' is pretty self-explanatory. I think what caused the confusion was the content of the Monogamous route, given its name
Then I guess I’m lucky, since the Cuckqueen Route will have plenty of contenthope cuckquean path have a lot content unless u have death wish
It’s only the Loyal one that will have less.