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The last time i played this (maybe Feb-ish this year?) - it turned out that the pics Ota was sending to the MC were all of Akemi (who I think was confirmed to not be Mio in disguise) and not Mio? (I think? my memory is slightly hazy) Is that still the case? thought it was a bit of a strange direction to go in?
 

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I have hope that the author will pull it back together, but the last update definitely was horrible on every level. The Akemi route devoting it's entire runtime to off-camera sex between Mio and MC was a COMPLETE waste of time. Who possibly is here for that? Then out of nowhere that ending that either makes zero sense, or is "just a dream/fantasy," which is actually too lame to imagine- yet there's plenty of precedent of exactly that.

The cuck route is way worse though. It had such a good trajectory and tension, and all of that was completely deflated. Everything they could have possibly done wrong, they did. They completely destroyed the building tension and consequences, reset everything back to neutral, and now they're introducing a minor 'kink' as the new trajectory. Literally everything from Mio sexually falling to Ota, to the readers assumption that more was happening offscreen, to MC's acceptance of Ota's dominant attitude about Mio- all just completely unmade. Now somehow we're back to square 1 where Mio and MC reagree about never breaking the rules, how they are completely stable in their relationship, and the only reason that anything is happening at all is in service of MC's kink. What a total boner kill of a plot.
Yeah, the more I look at it, the more I think the author should just scrap the update, redo it, and call it a day. It's normal to have missteps with such a long development, and even more when dev is determined to update every two weeks no matter what.

Akemi route is at a point where it makes no sense at all how Mio's behaving, and as you said, the cuck route has lost all traction and magically returned to point zero. After all the buildup, the moment of the bass drop, when the conflict should have erupted full force, suddenly dissolves into nothing and everybody decides to go back to the first status quo.

I feel they wanted to end the update with a shock, and they stepped on the thrust for the Akemi route, and felt the cuck route was going too fast and decided to roll everything back to the beginning so it could last longer, but man, there is no need for it. The game is good, the writing is good. Story has a pace, follow it and wherever you get at the two week mark is ok. Better to end the story and go on to write a new one after having a successful first game than to milk this one and leave it half assed and people pissed.
 

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I have hope that the author will pull it back together, but the last update definitely was horrible on every level. The Akemi route devoting it's entire runtime to off-camera sex between Mio and MC was a COMPLETE waste of time. Who possibly is here for that? Then out of nowhere that ending that either makes zero sense, or is "just a dream/fantasy," which is actually too lame to imagine- yet there's plenty of precedent of exactly that.

The cuck route is way worse though. It had such a good trajectory and tension, and all of that was completely deflated. Everything they could have possibly done wrong, they did. They completely destroyed the building tension and consequences, reset everything back to neutral, and now they're introducing a minor 'kink' as the new trajectory. Literally everything from Mio sexually falling to Ota, to the readers assumption that more was happening offscreen, to MC's acceptance of Ota's dominant attitude about Mio- all just completely unmade. Now somehow we're back to square 1 where Mio and MC reagree about never breaking the rules, how they are completely stable in their relationship, and the only reason that anything is happening at all is in service of MC's kink. What a total boner kill of a plot.
This is sadly the new norm devs are killing cuck content and transform it into wholesome vanilla nts the same thing happened at vr , confessions in the dark and now here plus the vanilla people are at it to fuck my netorase obsession a pure cuck game into i feel proud sharing my wife let's have fun together why are they doing this it feels like invasion did it ever happen that a Cuckolding enjoyer going to vanilla games trying to ruin that ? No but every single time these people try to force their way and ideology into other games and make it exactly what they want we all are friends no risk involved just sex to spice our lives
 
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This is sadly the new norm devs are killing cuck content and transform it into wholesome vanilla nts the same thing happened at vr , confessions in the dark and now here plus the vanilla people are at it to fuck my netorase obsession a pure cuck game into i feel proud sharing my wife let's have fun together why are they doing this it feels like invasion did it ever happen that a Cuckolding enjoyer going to vanilla games trying to ruin that ? No but every single time these people try to force their way and ideology into other games and make it exactly what they want we all are friends no risk involved just sex to spice our lives
yes and that's a good thing. i like wholesome NTS and i dont care if you don't
 
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yes and that's a good thing. i like wholesome NTS and i dont care if you don't
That only validated what i said above of course a person like you is like that an invasion species that only deserves hardcore ntr the worst way and oh boy i hope you get it to not try and ruin what other people like
 
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That only validated what i said above of course a person like you is like that an invasion species that only deserves hardcore ntr the worst way and oh boy i hope you get it to not try and ruin what other people like
Wholesome NTS enjoyers really are a parasitic infestion in this genre. The porn market could be 99% non-ntr games, yet you will still find them in droves in every NTR project, begging for it to be more tame, slow paced, and non-sexual.
 

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Cucks getting mad at being cucked out of the game that they enjoy.

Dev: Sorry, cuck-kun, but NTS-enjoyer-san can give me what I need.

What a time to be alive :p
And before anyone says anything, I enjoy both NTR and NTS. Sure, some games get coerced into NTS. It also happens the other way, where people are promised wholesome NTS and end up getting NTR instead. Neither of those scenarios are cool, since I'd rather devs stick to their original plan. But, in the end, there are still a more NTR than NTS games out there. Stop exaggerating.
 
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Cucks getting mad at being cucked out of the game that they enjoy.

Dev: Sorry, cuck-kun, but NTS-enjoyer-san can give me what I need.

What a time to be alive :p
And before anyone says anything, I enjoy both NTR and NTS. Sure, some games get coerced into NTS. It also happens the other way, where people are promised wholesome NTS and end up getting NTR instead. Neither of those scenarios are cool, since I'd rather devs stick to their original plan. But, in the end, there are still a more NTR than NTS games out there. Stop exaggerating.
You're seeing it wrong. Most people enjoy porn from the perspective of an observer. They don't imagine themselves in the story, they enjoy watching the scenarios HAPPEN to the people in the story. They're not sitting there like "yeah, I'm such a cuck, cuck me again Mio my girlfriend." I'm sure some are, but that's not the majority.

So, with that being said, if you go in a soft-NTS direction where Mio has sex with her own boyfriend for the 350th time, that's just not a compelling story. It's not kinky, there's nothing taboo about it, and it's just a total waste of time and effort. The ONLY people that something so objectively boring would appeal to are in fact the actual cucks, who become so emotional about the story that they've self inserted themselves into, that all they want is a happy vanilla ending where nothing ever happens, MC is emotionally validated and taken care of, and in the end, he gets the girl (who always liked him best anyways).
 
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Wholesome NTS enjoyers really are a parasitic infestion in this genre. The porn market could be 99% non-ntr games, yet you will still find them in droves in every NTR project, begging for it to be more tame, slow paced, and non-sexual.
The same as NTR enjoyer's first question in almost every non-NTR project "will there be NTR????".
I'm in neither of the 2 factions but thinking only one side is insufferable, is just copium.
 

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You're seeing it wrong. Most people enjoy porn from the perspective of an observer. They don't imagine themselves in the story, they enjoy watching the scenarios HAPPEN to the people in the story. They're not sitting there like "yeah, I'm such a cuck, cuck me again Mio my girlfriend." I'm sure some are, but that's not the majority.

So, with that being said, if you go in a soft-NTS direction where Mio has sex with her own boyfriend for the 350th time, that's just not a compelling story. It's not kinky, there's nothing taboo about it, and it's just a total waste of time and effort. The ONLY people that something so objectively boring would appeal to are in fact the actual cucks, who become so emotional about the story that they've self inserted themselves into, that all they want is a happy vanilla ending where nothing ever happens, MC is emotionally validated and taken care of, and in the end, he gets the girl (who always liked him best anyways).
Look i honestly don't have any problem with vanilla games or wholesome nts ones but my problem is when it invades other territories like this one the cuck path we had the game already had a wholesome nts path so what is the meaning of this ? Before this update both paths were really different now it's ruined the same stuff that happened in confessions in the dark it was an amazing cuck game suddenly in the latest update the mc is not a cuck but a stag and the wife has boundaries gives zero shit about the pleasure she was receiving meanwhile the update before it she was lost in the pleasure and had an ahego face unlike anything to match and thats not all now they are targeting my netorase obsession a pure cuck game to transform it into another light vanilla nts game
 

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The last time i played this (maybe Feb-ish this year?) - it turned out that the pics Ota was sending to the MC were all of Akemi (who I think was confirmed to not be Mio in disguise) and not Mio? (I think? my memory is slightly hazy) Is that still the case? thought it was a bit of a strange direction to go in?
Yes. Ota does a lot of shit like that trying to mislead the MC. In newer updates he's done the same thing to make MC think Mio let him hit raw
 

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I'm sitting on the sideline eating my Sriracha Doritos ... reading this stuff above sounds like NTR-Cartman vs NTS-Cartman from South Park having a grade school playground bitch slapping contest as they talk smack like some fat-ass sloth ESPN commentators who have no skin in the game cause if they did, they'd be bitching over on their *paid* Patreon subscription and not here.

This isn't high brow writing. It's low-brow ... so if you cannot forgive some continuity errors or an unreliable narrator/character in a multi-path choose-your-own-adventure story, then it might be worthwhile to look else where ... unless the trolling gives your micropenis a stiffy. And maybe, some of the opinionated "experts" should try their hand at creating a game in this genre since they apparently "know better".

Viviny - it's your game. Fuck that noise here. If you are ignoring it ... good on you. If you really want to troll some of the commenters, maybe you should piss off these NTR-vs-NTS whiners by working on the "revenge" path with Yamoto visiting Akemi (as I mentioned in #1001).

Personally, I'm looking forward to story branch where every relationship in the story implodes in a catstrophic fashion regardless of NTR or NTS pathing ... like no couples in the end, each going their separate ways (except maybe Mio's mom & dad) ... but then maybe that's too realistic or hits too close to home for some of these folks. And if the implosion doesn't happen for me, it's fine as it's Viviny stories.
 
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I'm sitting on the sideline eating my Sriracha Doritos ... reading this stuff above sounds like NTR-Cartman vs NTS-Cartman from South Park having a grade school playground bitch slapping contest as they talk smack like some fat-ass sloth ESPN commentators who have no skin in the game cause if they did, they'd be bitching over on their *paid* Patreon subscription and not here.

This isn't high brow writing. It's low-brow ... so if you cannot forgive some continuity errors or an unreliable narrator/character in a multi-path choose-your-own-adventure story, then it might be worthwhile to look else where ... unless the trolling gives your micropenis a stiffy. And maybe, some of the opinionated "experts" should try their hand at creating a game in this genre since they apparently "know better".

Viviny - it's your game. Fuck that noise here. If you are ignoring it ... good on you. If you really want to troll some of the commenters, maybe you should piss off these NTR-vs-NTS whiners by working on the "revenge" path with Yamoto visiting Akemi (as I mentioned in #1001).

Personally, I'm looking forward to story branch where every relationship in the story implodes in a catstrophic fashion regardless of NTR or NTS pathing ... like no couples in the end, each going their separate ways (except maybe Mio's mom & dad) ... but then maybe that's too realistic or hits too close to home for some of these folks. And if the implosion doesn't happen for me, it's fine as it's Viviny stories.
The Patreon comments are largely critical of the last update, the Patreon poll votes showed no one cares about the 'revenge' path, your commentary is bad, and you don't need to put a space before an ellipses.
 

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The Patreon comments are largely critical of the last update, the Patreon poll votes showed no one cares about the 'revenge' path, your commentary is bad, and you don't need to put a space before an ellipses.
Bhahaha ... hey, grammar Karen ... your post is bad. . Spoiler ... spaces don't matter ... either is fine according to the Chicago Manual of Style ... and I knew that cause I've fucking college English degree. And if you take a 200 & 300 Linguistics course like me ... then you'll learn with English ... there are practically no rules and nothing fucking matters ... dumbass.

Personally, I think the revenge path would be entertaining ... but for gooners like yourself ... sure, Viviny could kill off the revenge path and do a full hard NTR, wholesome NTS, whatever. Doesn't fucking matter. But unless he comes up with a compelling and twist on the ending, the various pathings' endings will be a "rote" and trope stereotypical endings.

And that would be sad. He's had some highs and lows with the character development to engage the player across the various paths. So many of these "mobile" style games don't appear to have a planned ending with a hard stop ... or even set up for a follow-up game. They just stroll along with their Patreon polls until they usually suffer abandonment or "quick resolution syndrome".

Hence, my hope Viviny gives at least one path (if not all paths) a more genuine and realistic ending. Rarely IRL do all the people in a NTR or Netori situation end with a "Happily Ever After" ... not that gooners would feel satisfied with that. So every relationship on some of the paths imploding would be more genuine and compelling.

There's a chance an NTS relationship (like hotwifing) might work out ... so long as there more anonymous or rotating bulls ... and not a steady one like Ota.

VIviny has his work cut out for him to figure out some exit strategies. Best of luck to him. And Karen, consider taking a few writing classes without AI. You might learn something. Wait ... I take that back. Don't take any classes. Keep being the brilliant dumbass you are.

Cheers.
 
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Bhahaha ... hey, grammar Karen ... your post is bad. . Spoiler ... spaces don't matter ... either is fine according to the Chicago Manual of Style ... and I knew that cause I've fucking college English degree. And if you take a 200 & 300 Linguistics course like me ... then you'll learn with English ... there are practically no rules and nothing fucking matters ... dumbass.

Personally, I think the revenge path would be entertaining ... but for gooners like yourself ... sure, Viviny could kill off the revenge path and do a full hard NTR, wholesome NTS, whatever. Doesn't fucking matter. But unless he comes up with a compelling and twist on the ending, the various pathings' endings will be a "rote" and trope stereotypical endings.

And that would be sad. He's had some highs and lows with the character development to engage the player across the various paths. So many of these "mobile" style games don't appear to have a planned ending with a hard stop ... or even set up for a follow-up game. They just stroll along with their Patreon polls until they usually suffer abandonment or "quick resolution syndrome".

Hence, my hope Viviny gives at least one path (if not all paths) a more genuine and realistic ending. Rarely IRL do all the people in a NTR or Netori situation end with a "Happily Ever After" ... not that gooners would feel satisfied with that. So every relationship on some of the paths imploding would be more genuine and compelling.

There's a chance an NTS relationship (like hotwifing) might work out ... so long as there more anonymous or rotating bulls ... and not a steady one like Ota.

VIviny has his work cut out for him to figure out some exit strategies. Best of luck to him. And Karen, consider taking a few writing classes without AI. You might learn something. Wait ... I take that back. Don't take any classes. Keep being the brilliant dumbass you are.

Cheers.
Clearly I must beg your pardon, for I had no idea that you had an ENGLISH DEGREE! I am most certainly incorrect based on this fact alone, and will of course humbly concede this point and any others.
 

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Bhahaha ... hey, grammar Karen ... your post is bad. . Spoiler ... spaces don't matter ... either is fine according to the Chicago Manual of Style ... and I knew that cause I've fucking college English degree. And if you take a 200 & 300 Linguistics course like me ... then you'll learn with English ... there are practically no rules and nothing fucking matters ... dumbass.

Personally, I think the revenge path would be entertaining ... but for gooners like yourself ... sure, Viviny could kill off the revenge path and do a full hard NTR, wholesome NTS, whatever. Doesn't fucking matter. But unless he comes up with a compelling and twist on the ending, the various pathings' endings will be a "rote" and trope stereotypical endings.

And that would be sad. He's had some highs and lows with the character development to engage the player across the various paths. So many of these "mobile" style games don't appear to have a planned ending with a hard stop ... or even set up for a follow-up game. They just stroll along with their Patreon polls until they usually suffer abandonment or "quick resolution syndrome".

Hence, my hope Viviny gives at least one path (if not all paths) a more genuine and realistic ending. Rarely IRL do all the people in a NTR or Netori situation end with a "Happily Ever After" ... not that gooners would feel satisfied with that. So every relationship on some of the paths imploding would be more genuine and compelling.

There's a chance an NTS relationship (like hotwifing) might work out ... so long as there more anonymous or rotating bulls ... and not a steady one like Ota.

VIviny has his work cut out for him to figure out some exit strategies. Best of luck to him. And Karen, consider taking a few writing classes without AI. You might learn something. Wait ... I take that back. Don't take any classes. Keep being the brilliant dumbass you are.

Cheers.
Bro joking aside why should we get something realistic it's a game after all isn't it ?
 

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Yes. Ota does a lot of shit like that trying to mislead the MC. In newer updates he's done the same thing to make MC think Mio let him hit raw
Ah ok, so is there actually any 'cucking' actually happening currently in the game? or is it just pretending?
 

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Bro joking aside why should we get something realistic it's a game after all isn't it ?
You're absolutely right. It is just a game. But does every branch need a favorable ending that will please the player? It's not like the creator is trying to teach a lesson, he's telling a story.

Personally, I think too many games have happy endings of some variety. I recently picked up my copy of the game Horses and I'm looking forward to playing it. It's not a happy game and it's not a happy ending. But it's still a compelling story nonetheless.

IMHO it would be nice if Viviny had at least one real or compelling ending to one of the branches. But I'm just some bloke on the internet so My opinion doesn't really matter to him or anyone else for that matter. I'm just throwing some spaghetti at the wall for Viviny to consider.

They've already given us some compelling conversations and engagements here on F95 as people were really getting into Mio's perspective inside of the story. And that journey made the game engaging. Kudos for that.

But like I said in the previous post, coming up with an appropriate ending to an engaging story is a challenge.

These particular kinds of games with multi-paths are really multiple/layered short stories. And it is well known, the shorter the story, the tougher it is to write an engaging, world building piece that draws the reader (or player) into it with a believable or reasonable exit point.

I'm looking forward to see how he ends this game, hopefully this next year. And given the community's level of engagement, I'm looking forward to his next project if he chooses to do one.

Cheers.
 
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