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Nobody knows what's under Hutch. Hutch's dick might be bigger than Christian's.
I hadn't been keeping up with this thread for the past few days and just noticed this comment. I want to add, besides that, there's a lot more to sexual pleasure (and especially making love) than penis size. Of course, some sex partners do not have a penis at all, such as lesbian couples, and plenty of them manage to sexually satisfy each other just fine.

Speaking of heterosexual pairings, women report that they are more likely to experience an orgasm or sexual satisfaction when their sex partner is emotionally close to them and is familiar with what they prefer/dislike, when there is ample time spent on foreplay and building arousal prior to engaging in intercourse, when there is direct clitoral stimulation before and possibly during intercourse, when their partner verbalizes love, compliments, and/or terms of endearment as well as how much they enjoy aspects of their sexual experience/performance, and depending on personal preference, when there is accompanying stimulation of the breasts, lips, neck, and/or ears (with touching, kissing, sucking, licking, breathing, or moaning). Of all these factors though, it is the ones that precede intercourse that women most often endorse as being important to enhancing how satisfying their sexual experience ultimately is.

So yeah, having the bigger dick does not equate to being able to provide the most sexual pleasure, except for in the large majority of porn stories and among the slim minority of women who report liking particularly deep penetration.
 
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If sex with her husband is a way to show him that she loves him isn't sharing it another man means she doesn't love him anymore or at-least the way she used to in Hutch's eye And I would love to think that is why he stopped calling her I love you.

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The problem starts right there with her stating sex is HIS love language (in other words: not hers) and her engaging in it in order to show himsomething to communicate with him (in other words not for the sake of enjoyable and exciting sex itself but as a therapeutic and manipulative tool). Then again there will be people saying this is "good for the relationship". No, it's the attitude which led to where they are - leaving her wanting another kind of sex, exactly that kind she has with the boss, whcih is the opposite of a love language, at last not a burden, not a communicative tool to soothe a husband and his emotional needs but just raw sex. In this sense that quote is a further clue to her sexual awakening, it shows two kinds and meanings of sex for her.
 

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I have read his few novels (not the one you mentioned cause it's not finished). English isn't my 1st language so I may be wrong but I always felt his MMC's are borderline submissive while FMC's are borderline sadistic cheaters who thinks they have the right for the affair and husband's should be understanding enough to forgive them. I almost liked till I read the last page(She actually confirms his suspicion and hopes he goes along with it). The one I liked most is but I liked the other authors variant more .
ScoutV345 Bear with the original then read the alternate ending by a different author . It's one of my favorite ending in literotica as I always thinks your consequences can't be felt in few months or years.
I don't read these stories, as it's not my chosen genre for reading, and I never have the time to take a look at them! However, I did randomly read one that someone shared in the identification forum here, I think it was called something like "The Phonecall" - where a man gets a phonecall and it's just someone saying "I'm going to fuck your wife". I thought it was quite interesting. It was all from the husband's POV and he was gradually getting more suspicious of his wife as time went on. When she told him everything after leaving him, he realised that she'd been silently humiliating him - having her lover over for sex while the husband was at work and then serving him dinner that had her lover's cum mixed in; saying she was breathless on a phonecall because she was on the treadmill at the gym, when she was actually fucking; standing her husband up on a dinner date (he was sat waiting in a window seat at the restaurant, meanwhile she was watching him from the window of a hotel room across the street, while her lover fucked her) and stuff like that. It was pretty brutal but I liked the writing style, and the way it hinted things in the husband's POV, and then revealed them later.
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He said " Even if that were true" not " Even if that is true"
From chatgpt (sorry not good with English)
Even if that is true ---- Implication: You are considering the possibility that something might be true right now.
Even if that were true ---- Implication: You’re assuming it's probably not true
I read this differently, and there are two aprts to it. One is a technical thing about why I say the chatgpt answer is wrong, and I'll put it in spoilers here:
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The second is actually contained within that spoiler, but I'll repeat it here because it's not just part of the grammatical argument. IMO, Hutch isn't trying to say he doesn't believe her here, that's not the point he's trying to make. I read it is "whether or not that is true, it's irrelevant, because he always gets what he wants anyway."
 

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I have read his few novels (not the one you mentioned cause it's not finished). English isn't my 1st language so I may be wrong but I always felt his MMC's are borderline submissive while FMC's are borderline sadistic cheaters who thinks they have the right for the affair and husband's should be understanding enough to forgive them. I almost liked till I read the last page(She actually confirms his suspicion and hopes he goes along with it). The one I liked most is but I liked the other authors variant more .
@ScoutV345 Bear with the original then read the alternate ending by a different author . It's one of my favorite ending in literotica as I always thinks your consequences can't be felt in few months or years.
Thanks for the reading list.
 

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Why hasn't this guy opened up a patreon yet? it would be a huge hit!
Because it's not about making money. If he wanted to make money off it, as you suggest, I bet it would be pretty popular on Patreon or wherever. The dev has been asked many times about this because people genuinely want to support him, but he always gives the same answer (and also suggests supporting the forum instead).
 

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Why hate someone just because it strives for something more.
I don't know but is it ok for someone to start killing out of boredom. If you're in a committed relationship isn't cheating means you're killing that relationship/marriage because of selfish reasons? If boring time represents stability, security than isn't it better than adventurous/interesting time where it would mean chaos, insecurity, pain. Sorry I don't understand your point or stand on this.
The problem starts right there with her stating sex is HIS love language
Yes I totally agree if it's from Vivian's POV, I just wanted to express a point from Hutch's view.
"whether or not that is true, it's irrelevant, because he always gets what he wants anyway."
Yes I get it what overall point Hutch was trying to make. I don't know if I can put my thoughts into proper word but to me at-least it seemed he isn't as trustworthy with her words as before. He isn't saying it's false or accepting it true before making the point.
 

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Yes I get it what overall point Hutch was trying to make. I don't know if I can put my thoughts into proper word but to me at-least it seemed he isn't as trustworthy with her words as before. He isn't saying it's false or accepting it true before making the point.
think you are missing the bigger picture here xcalibar4 since the morning after the sex marathon that vivian had right in the next room hutch has avoided her advanced and never did say or do anything but question her and instead of telling the truth she opts for the cheating option as she like what she did. its from the dinner at boss house hutch never believed what lies vivian was telling him. so him not believing her words in just the norm for him at the point in the story. that vivian is always never telling the truth or avoiding it.
 
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Sorry I don't understand your point or stand on this.
Of course you don't understand, because you are biased.
Huutch his job is in jeopardy and Vivian was right on the spot to support him.
She saw him enter their house in a devastated state.

What about Huutch, he should know his wife by now, at least that is what one should expect from him after 22 years of marriage.
Vivian trying to help her husband out of his misery. She makes every effort but reaches her limits.
She does not succeed in resisting Christian's advances despite her mentioning that she is a big girl and it is Huutch who should know better and recognize that she is now in need of his support, but once again Huutch shines with his unyielding way of doing nothing.
This is how he supports his beloved ones when they are struggeling and get into trouble.
If Huutch can't decide whether his beloved ones or his job is more important to him than Vivian absolutely deserves a new engine and the ride it offers...you understand!?
 

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but once again Huutch shines with his unyielding way of doing nothing.
This is how he supports his beloved ones when they are struggeling and get into trouble.
Hutch's problem in relation to his wife at this point is not so much agency and performance but authority. Without authority and respect he can't act. And without the chance to act he can't reestablish his authority and competence. She doubts his competence for a long time now. Your critique presupposes that there is a kind of intact protector/patriarch-role which isn't. I'm not saying this is good or bad, but to be realistic we can't demand the impossible from Hutch (or the majority of husbands in that socioeconomic and cultural environment). That ship has sailed decade ago. I'm not defending Hutch here or this model of marriage, but you can't at this point of the journey suddenly claim she is a damsel in distress who just came straight from the Mayflower.
 

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Hutch's problem in relation to his wife at this point is not so much agency and performance but authority. Without authority and respect he can't act. And without the chance to act he can't reestablish his authority and competence. She doubts his competence for a long time now. Your critique presupposes that there is a kind of intact protector/patriarch-role which isn't. I'm not saying this is good or bad, but to be realistic we can't demand the impossible from Hutch (or the majority of husbands in that socioeconomic and cultural environment). That ship has sailed decade ago. I'm not defending Hutch here or this model of marriage, but you can't at this point of the journey suddenly claim she is a damsel in distress who just came straight from the Mayflower.
This "project" certainly won't earn Vivian's respect, even if Hutch sees it as giving Vivian what she wants. Most women want to feel desired and protected by their partner/husband. Hutch is pretty much giving her away to Christian.
The one time that Hutch tries to exert some kind of authority in the home, is to basically agree for his wife to fuck someone else. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Without authority and respect he can't act. And without the chance to act he can't reestablish his authority and competence
It's not about his lack of authority and the lack of respect shown to him, it is his indecisiveness, his almost indifferent attitude towards everything, towards his job, his marriage, etc!
If not being able to step up what belongs to you or protect the ones you love when they are in need of your support, the perfect time to show them what you are made of, how much they mean to you and to earn their respect, then what else?
What else does it need, when will be moment he decides to crawl out of his snail shell?
 
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think you are missing the bigger picture here xcalibar4 since the morning after the sex marathon that vivian had right in the next room hutch has avoided her advanced and never did say or do anything but question her and instead of telling the truth she opts for the cheating option as she like what she did. its from the dinner at boss house hutch never believed what lies vivian was telling him. so him not believing her words in just the norm for him at the point in the story. that vivian is always never telling the truth or avoiding it.
This is what I was trying to tell. He didn't understand why she did it and gave her enough chance to come clean but she kept lying. After the bathroom scene he was sure that everything she is saying about Christian is a lie and it's what she wants.

you understand!?
Maybe I am biased but I think you're also. The backyard scene may have happened due to blackmail or her sacrificing herself for his job or she was seduced or it was just a heat of the moment. But what about the office scene where she willingly went to kiss him. We won't know for sure until the VN goes further. But if she comes out as a plain cheater will you still support her? And no I don't support Hutch, I would have loved if he went ballistic but he didn't. As I told before in this forum I think he is becoming a quiet cuck type character. But till now he isn't fully behaving like a typical cuck we see in other stories. I am here discussing things cause how the story is told and really loved the drama till now. (Also the sex scenes are hot)


but to be realistic we can't demand the impossible from Hutch (or the majority of husbands in that socioeconomic and cultural environment). That ship has sailed decade ago. I'm not defending Hutch here or this model of marriage, but you can't at this point of the journey suddenly claim she is a damsel in distress who just came straight from the Mayflower.
He has a financial debt and too much responsibility to loose his job. And after everything said and done he can't just loose his job.
 
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What else does it need, when will be moment he decides to crawl out of his snail shell?
Will Hutch crawl out of his snail shell or will he dive deeper into rabbit hole? Stay Tuned for the next episode of My Husband's Boss.

Next time on My Husband's Boss—will Hutch reclaim his dignity… or just hold Christian’s coat while he takes the wife out for dinner again? Find out next week!
 

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Maybe I am biased but I think you're also. The backyard scene may have happened due to blackmail or her sacrificing herself for his job or she was seduced or it was just a heat of the moment. But what about the office scene where she willingly went to kiss him. We won't know for sure until the VN goes further. But if she comes out as a plain cheater will you still support her? And no I don't support Hutch, I would have loved if he went ballistic but he didn't. As I told before in this forum I think he is becoming a quiet cuck type character. But till now he isn't fully behaving like a typical cuck we see in other stories. I am here discussing things cause how the story is told and really loved the drama till now. (Also the sex scenes are hot)
From my point of view Vivian knows what makes Huutch tick and that's why she tried to use the opportunity to steer the whole thing in the right direction the morning in the office.
I said it a while ago that she expected some older testosterone filled up guy, one she can wrap around her finger if dressed sexy, but as we know things never turn out the way you expect them to and so Vivian was simply torn from her legs and from then on exposed to the manipulative manner of Christian, who saw through her plan from the very beginning.
Find out next week!
Ohhh..., next week would be awesome xD
 

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makes Huutch tick...
Yes she knows he is a introvert and pushover. And to me it also shows she doesn't respect him or trust into his ability.
Vivian was simply torn from her legs
She was too smitten with him I think. And like other these type stories get swiped by his cockiness/manliness. But still doesn't sit well with me how ready she was.



Will Vivian finally find the passion she craves, or is she just auditioning for a role in ‘The Bold and the Betrayed’? Stay tuned for the next scandalous twist in My Husband's Boss!
 
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Yes she knows he is a introvert and pushover. And to me it also shows she doesn't respect him or trust into his ability.

She was too smitten with him I think. And like other these type stories get swiped by his cockiness/manliness. But still doesn't sit well with me how ready she was.



Will Vivian finally find the passion she craves, or is she just auditioning for a role in ‘The Bold and the Betrayed’? Stay tuned for the next scandalous twist in My Husband's Boss!
ıt was like '' we'll see about that after the commercials ''
 

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Hutch is pretty much giving her away to Christian.
Did Hutch give her away to Christian when he repeatedly told her that he didn't want her to go to his boss' home with him?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when he warned her again and again about what kind of man he is on the drive to his home and then told her that he wanted to leave soon after they arrived, as he had no desire to grovel for his job?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when she (the big girl who can take care of herself) decided to drop her panties in the boss' backyard and allow him to hit it from the back?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when he said that he wanted to leave his boss' home without eating dinner, repeatedly asked his wife if something happened (which she denied), again insisted on leaving after dinner, and then objected to her sleeping in the same bed as his boss, even grabbing her by the arm at one point, to which she characteristically responded not to worry and that she's a big girl and can take care of herself?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when she insisted that she was going to visit the office only to tell him she would not work for him yet instead again had quite active/involved sex with him and then still agreed to work for him by attending a "business" meeting/dinner and further said that she'd have to convince Hutch to let her do it?

I notice that some in this thread keep harping on Hutch about him not acting more aggressively/forcefully and perhaps even violently toward his boss. However, should Hutch as a loving husband have to resort to doing such things to get his loyal wife of 22 years to agree with him or follow his lead?

Why did his wife choose to contradict and oppose him every step of the way, starting with accompanying him to his boss' home (in effect doing what she thought his boss wanted her to do instead of listening to her husband)?

Why did his wife not back him up when he repeatedly voiced wanting to leave his boss' home and not beg for his job, which he did both before and after the backyard incident?

Why did his wife agree to sleep in the same bed as his boss, knowing what had already happened in the backyard, and even after her husband grabbed her by the arm and tried to restrain her from going?

Why did his wife again have sex with his boss after she had insisted the previous night that she was only visiting the office the next day to tell his boss that she would not work for him, and then after all that, ultimately agreed to work with him anyway and said she'd have to convince her husband to let her do it?

Yeah, sure, one way of seeing it is that Hutch decided to give his wife away to Christian (temporarily) when they sat down at home and finally had a somewhat honest conversation about what had happened and how she felt about it.

However, another way of seeing it is that Vivian had already given herself to his boss repeatedly across the span of two days after she previously insisted each time that she was perfectly capable of handling herself if his boss acted inappropriately.

Vivian says one thing and does another thing; she then lies about it when directly asked and would've continued to lie if she hadn't been caught; and while at home with Hutch, she acts like she wants to flee the town with him after she just told his boss earlier (post-sex) that she'd have to get him to agree to let her go to a "business" meeting/dinner with him.

So okay, maybe Vivian wants Hutch to show her that he as her husband desires her and wants to protect her. However, it seems that he tried to do that, at least in his own way, though perhaps more of an angry outburst or physical confrontation was needed to sufficiently claim his wife, the wife with whom he had traded vows with long ago and raised a son currently attending college. On the other hand, maybe Hutch wants Vivian as his wife to show him that she of her own volition can be trusted, honest, and faithful, not because he has to pressure or mate guard her into doing it, but because that's what she really wants. Yes, Hutch told her that he was willing to give her what he thinks she wants but is unwilling to admit to him, but he also told her that what happens or does not happen is up to her (as it was from the start before she chose to give herself to his boss, which granted she likely was initially coerced into doing, but then went quite a ways beyond that).
 
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I notice that some in this thread keep harping on Hutch about him not acting more aggressively/forcefully and perhaps even violently toward his boss. However, should Hutch as a loving husband have to resort to doing such things to get his loyal wife of 22 years to agree with him or follow his lead?
So okay, maybe Vivian wants Hutch to show her that he as her husband desires her and wants to protect her. However, it seems that he tried to do that, at least in his own way, though perhaps more of an angry outburst or physical confrontation was needed to sufficiently prove his desire and claim his wife, the wife with whom he had traded vows with long ago and raised a son currently attending college. On the other hand, maybe Hutch wants Vivian as his wife to show him that she of her own volition can be trusted, honest, and faithful, not because he has to pressure or mate guard her into doing it, but because that's what she really wants.
Modern/boomer vs tradcon dilemma finally reached the thread, after some early signs weeks ago (if we like the labels or not).
Both positions are problematic - and the game is forcing us to confront that.
 

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Did Hutch give her away to Christian when he repeatedly told her that he didn't want her to go to his boss' home with him?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when he warned her again and again about what kind of man he is on the drive to his home and then told her that he wanted to leave soon after they arrived, as he had no desire to grovel for his job?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when she (the big girl who can take care of herself) decided to drop her panties in the boss' backyard and allow him to hit it from the back?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when he said that he wanted to leave his boss' home without eating dinner, repeatedly asked his wife if something happened (which she denied), again insisted on leaving after dinner, and then objected to her sleeping in the same bed as his boss, even grabbing her by the arm at one point, to which she characteristically responded not to worry and that she's a big girl and can take care of herself?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when she insisted that she was going to visit the office only to tell him she would not work for him yet instead again had quite active/involved sex with him and then still agreed to work for him by attending a "business" meeting/dinner and further said that she'd have to convince Hutch to let her do it?

I notice that some in this thread keep harping on Hutch about him not acting more aggressively/forcefully and perhaps even violently toward his boss. However, should Hutch as a loving husband have to resort to doing such things to get his loyal wife of 22 years to agree with him or follow his lead?

Why did his wife choose to contradict and oppose him every step of the way, starting with accompanying him to his boss' home (in effect doing what she thought his boss wanted her to do instead of listening to her husband)?

Why did his wife not back him up when he repeatedly voiced wanting to leave his boss' home and not beg for his job, which he did both before and after the backyard incident?

Why did his wife agree to sleep in the same bed as his boss, knowing what had already happened in the backyard, and even after her husband grabbed her by the arm and tried to restrain her from going?

Why did his wife again have sex with his boss after she had insisted the previous night that she was only visiting the office the next day to tell his boss that she would not work for him, and then after all that, ultimately agreed to work with him anyway and said she'd have to convince her husband to let her do it?

Yeah, sure, one way of seeing it is that Hutch decided to give his wife away to Christian (temporarily) when they sat down at home and finally had a somewhat honest conversation about what had happened and how she felt about it.

However, another way of seeing it is that Vivian had already given herself to his boss repeatedly across the span of two days after she previously insisted each time that she was perfectly capable of handling herself if his boss acted inappropriately.

Vivian says one thing and does another thing; she then lies about it when directly asked and would've continued to lie if she hadn't been caught; and while at home with Hutch, she acts like she wants to flee the town with him after she just told his boss earlier (post-sex) that she'd have to get him to agree to let her go to a "business" meeting/dinner with him.

So okay, maybe Vivian wants Hutch to show her that he as her husband desires her and wants to protect her. However, it seems that he tried to do that, at least in his own way, though perhaps more of an angry outburst or physical confrontation was needed to sufficiently claim his wife, the wife with whom he had traded vows with long ago and raised a son currently attending college. On the other hand, maybe Hutch wants Vivian as his wife to show him that she of her own volition can be trusted, honest, and faithful, not because he has to pressure or mate guard her into doing it, but because that's what she really wants. Yes, Hutch told her that he was willing to give her what he thinks she wants but is unwilling to admit to him, but he also told her that what happens or does not happen is up to her (as it was from the start before she chose to give herself to his boss, which granted she likely was initially coerced into doing, but then went quite a ways beyond that).
she cucked her husband and her son and was smiling all the way thru it. she loves it and she is going to bring the pain soon. god i love that woman.
 
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