VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [v0.2] [SC Stories]

[Robb123456]

Really real world...lol! Now saying it's nearly the same though it isn't just reveals that you didn't understood what was going on on day 1.

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This is the script. If you think that's how the real world works, yeah, i cannot do anything for you. Good salesmen don't need this kind of bs. Mostt of great salesmen i've encountered just know how most the humans react in certain situations and don't need to know anything about their cliens' life to make them sign a contract.

 

[mrf293412]

If the business is dodgy and the clients know this, how would that go down? Hey hows the family, your son just left for college right? Hows the wife? Still shopping at that little lingerie store on main street?

Would be more like mob action, hey I know all about your family, still gonna leave?

 

[JoeBlogs]

Just take a look at the preview pics Dev sent us a couple of days before. Hutch at the nudie bar!
You are going to the nudie bar to have fun, relax and let some steam off. Even Al Bundy, a shoe salesman knows how to appreciate that kind of place. What does Hutch do? Exactly...n o t h i n g !

If your life and relationship was going to shit, I doubt the nudiie bar is going to help.

While some have commented that maybe this hints at Hutch not being very good at his job altogether, I think it is also possible that Christian somehow knew these clients were in jeopardy of being lost (perhaps for reasons outside of Hutch's control) and then informed Hutch about it when it was already too late to retain their business. If that were the case, then this would have set things up to where Christian could blame Hutch for losing the two clients, though not really his fault.

I previous mentioned my theory on what happened with those accounts.... I'm going to stick to it. see below

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A lot has been said about Vivian's ideas for the 'project', and how Christian is running with it.
Let's be real, what she thinks the plan is (wine and dine and be some eye candy), and what Christian wants it to be, and two totally different things.
I wonder what she will think of herself when she realizes that she is basically becoming a whore for hire. How will she face Hutch? What will Hutch think when he finds out? Will she even care? This is not the price of love in any ones books!

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

Those things you bullet point are the "wining and dining" part, just not using those words. Vivian says they'll test it on Christian because Hutch knows him - he knows his favourite food, his favourite wine, so they'll wine and dine him to show him the plan in action. It's like he's the test subject for it.

Exactly wine&dine was aimed especially at Chritian to sell him the game plan "Five-points plan" and not to clients.
Favorite food and wine because Hutch knows his boss.
For clients Hutch or better said Vivian should figure out their interests and come up with a plan.

"wine&dine" was brought up here in thread a while ago to give that event a name that happened at christian's place.

 

[tg]

Guy it's the opposite, it's when there is a lot of options for a client that you have to do the extra mile.Look at their offices, it's not a big business. look at Christian house (my parents have a way bigger house and they are not rich). Money being good is not the same thing as being a huge company.

On a sidenote, i find it troubling Huctch lost the very clients Christian warned him about.

I remember Christian saying not to mind about the house, that he lived there for the views and the land, and that he might build another house there to replace it because he liked the views that much.

So, the state of his current house doesn't really reflect finanical backing. Either that, or he's just making excuses when he invites them in and get to see the house he lives in.

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

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This is the script. If you think that's how the real world works, yeah, i cannot do anything for you. Good salesmen don't need this kind of bs. Mostt of great salesmen i've encountered just know how most the humans react in certain situations and don't need to know anything about their cliens' life to make them sign a contract.

I see you still don't get it.

 

[Robb123456]

I see you still don't get it.

Guy i won't go further bc either you're stubborn, nitpicking or talking in bad faith. I won't extend this.

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

A good salesman must outdo others by offering something that the client likes. You take them to their favorite sports game, to their favorite restaurant, do them kids a fravor, whatever. If you stand still in good hope they will sign a contract with you, you clearly underestimate other salesman. This is how real world works nowadays.

 

[Robb123456]

A good salesman must outdo others by offering something that the client likes. You take them to their favorite sports game, to their favorite restaurant, do them kids a fravor, whatever. If you stand still in good hope they will sign a contract with you, you clearly underestimate other salesman. This is how real world works nowadays.

Sure continue to believe that.

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

Sure continue to believe that.

It's the norm to catch big fish while you can keep the sardines. It's all about information in this kind of business.

 

[Jungles70]

It's the norm to catch big fish while you can keep the sardines. It's all about information in this kind of business.

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This is the script. If you think that's how the real world works, yeah, i cannot do anything for you. Good salesmen don't need this kind of bs. Mostt of great salesmen i've encountered just know how most the humans react in certain situations and don't need to know anything about their cliens' life to make them sign a contract.

I agree with both of you, a big seller sells ice to the Eskimos...
But a great seller if he wants to make a sale to a great customer must know and know all of his client weaknesses and its peculiarities , must become his "friend" because the big deals are not done in two hours, it takes days weeks... Then at the end we talk about some sentences of a script that serve to start the story but are not the "story" are only part of the story.

 

[JoeBlogs]

Regarding what Hutch was doing when he went missing, there is some extra commented out dialog in the code.

Spoiler: removed dialog

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It's good that it was removed because otherwise it would have limited the story going forward i think. at least now there is still a mystery on what he was doing. Plus i don't think it would fit with the direction it's going in. But hey, what do I know.

Regarding Hutch's being weak or mild, In the bathroom scene where Vivian gets angry and decides to leave, (side-note: Christian wouldn't let her leave, proving that all that bullshit about she is free to go, is just that... bullshit)

Hutch hears her plea....

He is getting ready to get up and come to her aid... Showing that he does at least have some backbone.

But ultimately he hears how she is enjoying it, and is a willing partner, further breaking his spirit. (Seriously Hutch my man, dump this bitch )

And when he leaves the bathroom...

This is the face of a man who has been to war and seen things... this is the face of a man in shell-shock. A blank stare unable to feel joy or sadness, complete emptiness. I hoped this would be the face he always shows Vivian from now on, let it weigh on her.

 

[Luc77]

I agree with this. There are too many theories that make Hutch out to be a mastermind behind the scenes. With the context we have about Hutch's personality, he was most likely just thinking.

He was doing it the whole Saturday
Sunday is the time for action.

Hutch at the nudie bar!
You are going to the nudie bar to have fun, relax and let some steam off. Even Al Bundy, a shoe salesman knows how to appreciate that kind of place. What does Hutch do? Exactly...n o t h i n g !

In my opinion, it's clearly visible that he came there with someone (Vivian? Was she sent there by Chris? ) and in the second image, he's looking for that person

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

If your life and relationship was going to shit, I doubt the nudiie bar is going to help.

That's what I'm saying. He went to the nudie bar with his life being shitty and for what...
Does this look like a man to you that has a wake up call and ends like a hero in this game?

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

A lot has been said about Vivian's ideas for the 'project', and how Christian is running with it.
Let's be real, what she thinks the plan is (wine and dine and be some eye candy), and what Christian wants it to be, and two totally different things.
I wonder what she will think of herself when she realizes that she is basically becoming a whore for hire. How will she face Hutch? What will Hutch think when he finds out? Will she even care? This is not the price of love in any ones books!

Vivian is only intended as an accompaniment for Christian to test locations he aimed to reserve for client meetings (whatever locations they may be: restaurants, swinger club,...). That's what Christian said and Hutch and Vivian coded as little project. The term working Hutch and Vivian used for that little project includes benefits Vivian and Christian can profit from.
She will not meet any Clients (...yet) as far as I remember correctly.

 

[Penumbral Evanescence]

She will not meet any Clients (...yet) as far as I remember correctly.

When Christian was planning on having Vivian join him when they meet some of his clients/business partners, I had the sneaking suspicion that they would be planning on going to some sleazy night bars or some underground strip club of some sort, but on the outside, it looks like some "gentleman's club".

From there, Chris would entice Vivian to perform sex acts on some of his clientele/business partners as collateral to motivate them by securing a negotiation/shady business deal. So, perhaps it might also be Chris's intent to whore out Vivian to his older clientele in order to secure some of his business dealings.

 

[LUCIANO2020]

When Christian was planning on having Vivian join him when they meet some of his clients/business partners, I had the sneaking suspicion that they would be planning on going to some sleazy night bars or some underground strip club of some sort, but on the outside, it looks like some "gentleman's club".

From there, Chris would entice Vivian to perform sex acts on some of his clientele/business partners as collateral to motivate them by securing a negotiation/shady business deal. So, perhaps it might also be Chris's intent to whore out Vivian to his older clientele in order to secure some of his business dealings.

Your scenario seem for me to complicated it doesn't go with the style of the dev. I do not think she Vivian become a whore or slut nut only will have some situation where she would be "forced" to fuck with some of the characters like the twin or the basketball player. As a collateral damage. I really think is going to head in that direction.

 

[LUCIANO2020]

This kinetik novel is being describing a tragedy and Vivian, Christian and hutch are the main characters. And this tragedy will get deeper in complications where we all would complain and be mad about such happening in that's exact what keep us focusing this game. We just don't played but we feel it too. We going trough this emphatically with every oft them without notice it.

 

[LUCIANO2020]

And this is only 20 percent of the game. Omg

 

[AssassinWolf67]

Dev told us his story will have a heavy dark end and all you guys come up with is that Hutch reaches a level of self confident out of nowhere and can cope with everything and anyone. That's just not going to happen. This story is not about Hutch!

A dark heavy end is fine. Having written quite a bit myself, I believe readers, to be truly engaged, there needs to be someone or something to root for. In that scenario, I can absolutely see Hutch gaining the upper hand "eventually." After all, every person has a limit from which they rise or spiral into oblivion.

Obviously, Christian is the "evil" in the story. Vivian, while complicit, is manipulated by Christian. Christian is also manipulating Hutch (duh!), and I hope the author doesn't just leave it at surface level and have Hutch continue to be manipulated to the end. That would be WAY too shallow. I'm hoping (praying even) that we get a more complicated Hutch, one that, over time, begins to twist the circumstances to his benefit.

Christian's niece, the one who's nice to him (I believe it's his niece, I'm not sure typing this, so forgive me if I'm wrong), is a good way to start. Hutch mentioned that he's "open" to a different relationship. The word "open" is weighted in the way he brought it up out of nowhere. Now, the question is, will the game move toward "scorched earth" where Hutch destroys both Vivan and Christian? Will it end with revenge on Christian and forgiveness for Vivan? Or heaven forbid, Hutch is destroyed.

I would be disappointed if Hutch remains a cuck to the end. Shallow story, and honestly, a failed ending. It has to have some depth for Hutch to make it anywhere near believable. A dark heavy end, like I mentioned, is fine, but if it's Hutch that goes down, it will be a failed attempt at writing. If I wanted that, I would rewatch Uncut Jems. What a waste of time that movie was.