VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.1] [SC Stories]

[biggsexxxy]

I don't think Hutch is weak... I think he is controlling his emotione highly. Look at his facial expressions when confronted... THen there is the time he clinches his fists.... then lets go.... I think he is more complex than we give him.. to soon to tell.

I don't mean weak in all phases, he may have some dog in him, but it seems to have been beat out of him, probably letting Vivian take the wheel too many times, it has become second nature to him to just pass the buck so to speak.

I just don't see Vivian as controlling either, just having to do what has to be done for the family, obviously before fucking the boss, that's a bit over the line, lol

he just seems content with letting her handle things...

I guess weak in decision making, or problem solving...

one example is buying her the expensive car, he assumed she wanted it, and did it without speaking to Vivian about it, he seems to make decisions based on what he thinks people want, instead of asking what they want....

 

[Hattyrulz]

self-centered narcissistic personality.

self-centered i agree... narcissistic personality.... not sure about this have to wait for the next update. her taking action can also be interpreted as a recurrence of past incidents that we don't know about. not defending her actions but there is always a cause and effect and she might have thought that she help where she can. or being a teacher she is thinking along the lines of using simple solutions for complex problems.

I agree she did not do it to humiliate or hurt Hutch, after all, in many places she demanded that Hutch not find out. Her completely lying to him also inferred her trying to keep the secret.
Her continuing to use "WE" instead of "I" though, is a big slap in the face to Hutch. He didn't have any say in it. It was not his plan, nor a joint plan, in any way. Just another example of her selfish personality.

I don't know how he managed to stay married to her for 22 years. He must really love her, and as they say, love is blind.
They also say beauty is only skin deep, but ugliness is to the bone!

there is duality in the actions and dialogue where she is at one moment a faithful wife the next a woman in love with a stranger to put it mildly. the instances she demanded hutch not find out is again a different kind of dual image of vivian. she believes a person who openly says what he thinks is going to keep it secret when she asks him to. and even in those situation christian already knows that hutch knows the moment he was the dinning table chair was out of place and there show the camera behind him in the render.
the we and i dialogue is another such situation it is shown as if she just says what she is thinking then remembers she is married. logic wise this is where she should have said no and taken a firm stand and say that she is a big girl and wont do that... but if she did we wouldn't have any more updates for the vn.

as you said love is blind but i don't think that the flaws that vivian has in this vn cannot be related to real life. it would be interesting to see how the dev fixes the liberties he has taken with the lead characters and makes them seem real.

I just don't see Vivian as controlling either, just having to do what has to be done for the family, obviously before fucking the boss, that's a bit over the line, lol

he just seems content with letting her handle things...

I guess weak in decision making, or problem solving...

yes couldn't have said it better... if she was she couldn't have been so easily manipulated. hutch on the other hand has yet to show us what he is capable of... right now all the focus is on vivian bending over for the boss without a thought for her partner ... but she isn't the only protagonist as the tag implies... hutch might have more layers we have not yet peeled.

PS: in regards to the 22 years of marriage and the liberties the dev has taken showing the character flaws.. people in general tend to pick up on how their spouse is emotionally just with a few interactions. there are people at the other end of the spectrum who don't even know what their spouse feels. lots of history might be dumped on the reader when it comes to the next 2 updates dealing with vivian and hutch. right now all we can do is assume.

 

[TheDuke9999]

I disagree. DarkArchon says most of what I think about that, though, so I won't repeat it all. I think Vivian was sucked in, and was definitely mentally prepared and even longing for the second kiss to be on the lips. I think she knew when the dress arrived (and maybe before, with the "if you're not there, it's over" speech) that she might have to approach, and possibly cross, a line during dinner. As things progressed, that initial mental preparation meant her defenses were low - she was expecting that she would have to do something to rescue the situation, because Hutch was showing that he wasn't going to be able to win the day through his own means.

She insisted on going to Christian's house because she was played, though. She realised shortly after arrival that Christian was testing her and not Hutch, and that was one of the final steps in realising what was to come that night. None of it (on her side, at least) was about humiliating Hutch. I just don't see anything that she does as intentionally being done to humiliate him. Yes, it's a humiliating situation for him (although the pain is a much higher feeling, I'd say), but there's no indication whatsoever that there's any intent to humilate on Vivian's part, or that she gets off on humilating and/or torturing him.

Unlike some people who have discussed this previously, I think she is genuinely remorseful for the hurt she is causing Hutch, she's just in too deep and feels it would be worse to stop than to continue - "I mean... after everything I've been through.... WE... what we've been through... we wouldn't want it to be for nothing... what we've gone through so far."

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On a different topic. Sometimes text in a tattoo is just text in a tattoo. It might have no relevence to the story whatsoever. It could literally just be the dev's favourite poem or just a random line that he really likes, and he thought it would be a nice addition.

well if your correct in your statement then vivian truly is the dumbest woman ever born into this earth. lets see here, 5 minutes she allows the boss bend her over knowing at any time the husband could walk out or see her getting banged but she has no self control and does it. then after dinner says hey im a big girl im going to sleep in the same bed as your boss but dont worry we are just going to sleep . through the night she and the boss are moaning an screaming loud enough for the naighbors to hear and she still thinks hutch has no idea whats going on and sleeping lol. then leaves room with boss and bangs in kitchen still thinking hutch is sleeping as she moans again loudly. then goes back in bedroom and continues until morning still believing hutch is still asleep while she continues to moan an scream in pleasure . even after the boss tells her if she was his woman there is no way he would let into another room all night alone mocking her. not at any time did she think this situation is humiliating as hell to her husband ? not any any time did she care? did you watch the scenes because she really seem to enjoy herself . she knew it was humiliating and she got off on it.. now did she feel guilty and remorse for humiliating her husband .. sure she did. did she stop .. NO. did she go back for more at his workplace YES . does she feel bad for humiliating hutch .SURE . does she stop humiliating hutch NO .. DROPS THE MIC.

 

[TheDuke9999]

I don't think Hutch is weak... I think he is controlling his emotione highly. Look at his facial expressions when confronted... THen there is the time he clinches his fists.... then lets go.... I think he is more complex than we give him.. to soon to tell.

a strong man would have grabbed his wife an said simply if you still want be my wife we are leaving .. period

 

[JoeBlogs]

I have had to create plans for her a lot, and I would not call myself self-centered or narcissistic, or selfish, just the job I have to do as a husband to get her motivated

I assume you would at least discuss, or even tell your spouse what your intentions would be beforehand, as do I (and my spouse). It's never "I will do this and hope she does not find out" kind of situation. To me, that would be selfish and self-centered. You are either a team or you are not (regardless of who takes the helm at times, or shares the lead).

he just seems content with letting her handle things...

Perhaps, I'm still not completely sold on this. The situation on the surface looks like she is trying to help him come to a solution, but ends up dismissing him and taking over completely. Personally it looks like she is trying to preserve her life style, regardless of Hutch's emotional state (selfish tendencies).
This might be a reoccurring theme in their marriage, we don't know.

one example is buying her the expensive car, he assumed she wanted it, and did it without speaking to Vivian about it, he seems to make decisions based on what he thinks people want, instead of asking what they want....

Interesting point, but not enough info to draw such a conclusion. She might have been hinting that she would like a new car in the past. He might have wanted to surprise her with grand gift of appreciation, and bought her dream car as a birthday/anniversary gift.
As for asking people what they want... that's a bit of a assumption. Did Vivian ask Hutch what he wanted? Did Christian ask Hutch or even Vivian what they wanted?
If anything that last scene in their home paints the picture of neither of them knowing what the other wants, nor admitting to what they themselves want.

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Is he weak? Not sure. He is obviously a broken man, it happened when he saw Vivian in the backyard. He would have been in a state of shock for days, probably the reason why he couldn't bring himself to do anything and why he was so easily manipulated. For a brief moment, he did try to go to her rescue when he thought Christian was about to force himself on her in the bathroom.
SC Stories said the third part will delve more into his state of mind. I guess will will find out then what kind of man he is. We will also find out more on what kind of woman Vivian is in the next update.

 

[joao alves xavier]

well if your correct in your statement then vivian truly is the dumbest woman ever born into this earth. lets see here, 5 minutes she allows the boss bend her over knowing at any time the husband could walk out or see her getting banged but she has no self control and does it. then after dinner says hey im a big girl im going to sleep in the same bed as your boss but dont worry we are just going to sleep . through the night she and the boss are moaning an screaming loud enough for the naighbors to hear and she still thinks hutch has no idea whats going on and sleeping lol. then leaves room with boss and bangs in kitchen still thinking hutch is sleeping as she moans again loudly. then goes back in bedroom and continues until morning still believing hutch is still asleep while she continues to moan an scream in pleasure . even after the boss tells her if she was his woman there is no way he would let into another room all night alone mocking her. not at any time did she think this situation his humiliating as hell to her husband ? not any any time did she care? did you watch the scenes because she really seem to enjoy herself . she knew it was humiliating and she got off on it.. now did she feel guilty and remorse for humiliating her husband .. sure she did. did she stop .. NO. did she go back for more at his workplace YES . does she feel bad for humiliating hutch .SURE . does she stop humiliating hutch NO .. DROPS THE MIC.

I still do not think that she is completely humiliating him, not intentionally. For me , she is just a compulsive liar. She lies to Hutch and herself all the time, and she bluntly believes in her own lies.

The debauchery in the boss house and all the entailing noises, just another lie to herself. She convinces herself / let Christian convince her that Hutch is sleeping deeply counting sheep. It is like she lives in a fantasy world where she thinks she can do a anything and dont have to face any consequences. Even after Hutch said that he did not have any sleep, she was just trying to convince herself that there is no way he knew what happened. Another lie to herself so she can live in "peace" with herself.

At the same time, there is some degree of humiliation, as she seems, in my view, to try to testing limits, "death drive" as Freud would depict it. It is like if my husband doesnt care, why do I need to stop? So she went to the kitchen, because there is no limits , no one to help the poor damsel in distress. And of course the sex that she was earning for too long.

When she says "I love you" to Hutch it seems that she is trying to convince/lie to herself that she indeed loves him, which for me is far from the true. She was willingly or not just waiting for an opportunity to free herself from this Hutch, or just a little "push" lol.

 

[packard1928]

a strong man would have grabbed his wife an said simply if you still want be my wife we are leaving .. period

True that ... But again I think there is something we do not know about Hutch... Also, Maybe Vivian's sex indecretions has been going on for awhile now with others...maybe at school ! Maybe that is why Hutch was adimat that she not go meet him. He knew SE would be the weak one. I think he finally open the marriage so she would be free to have her way with no guilt.

 

[TheDuke9999]

True that ... But again I think there is something we do not know about Hutch... Also, Maybe Vivian's sex indecretions has been going on for awhile now with others...maybe at school ! Maybe that is why Hutch was adimat that she not go meet him. He knew SE would be the weak one. I think he finally open the marriage so she would be free to have her way with no guilt.

in the shower says somethings to the effect of throwing away 22 years of marriage and what she did. that would mean to me she never cheated before. just guessing though. hutch believes he is doing whats best for his family only prolonging the pain of knowing his wife is falling in love with another man. it is hutch's way of keeping his wife a little longer before she leaves him. she only let hutch have any say in there marriage when he agreed to let her bang other men. she knew what she was she doing and suceeded. does she feel horrible about destroying her husband ? absolutely.. does she care ? YES .. will she stop cheating? No.. she now has what she wanted.. freedom to do as she pleases and a husband that will pay dearly for it

 

[DarkArchon]

well if your correct in your statement then vivian truly is the dumbest woman ever born into this earth. lets see here, 5 minutes she allows the boss bend her over knowing at any time the husband could walk out or see her getting banged but she has no self control and does it. then after dinner says hey im a big girl im going to sleep in the same bed as your boss but dont worry we are just going to sleep . through the night she and the boss are moaning an screaming loud enough for the naighbors to hear and she still thinks hutch has no idea whats going on and sleeping lol. then leaves room with boss and bangs in kitchen still thinking hutch is sleeping as she moans again loudly. then goes back in bedroom and continues until morning still believing hutch is still asleep while she continues to moan an scream in pleasure . even after the boss tells her if she was his woman there is no way he would let into another room all night alone mocking her. not at any time did she think this situation is humiliating as hell to her husband ? not any any time did she care? did you watch the scenes because she really seem to enjoy herself . she knew it was humiliating and she got off on it.. now did she feel guilty and remorse for humiliating her husband .. sure she did. did she stop .. NO. did she go back for more at his workplace YES . does she feel bad for humiliating hutch .SURE . does she stop humiliating hutch NO .. DROPS THE MIC.

Vivian enjoying Christian fucking her is not evidence that she enjoys humiliating Hutch. As I wrote previously, Christian has power over her, including sexual power over her. She is submitting to Christian because he is able to dominate her through manipulation and through sex. As far as Vivian being dumb, that is correct, but far more than just being dumb, she deludes herself. Just because someone does something completely illogical does not mean that their behavior is unbelievable. It is illogical, for example, for a woman whose husband beats her for decades, to believe he is going to change and stop beating her, but there are MILLIONS of women who think that. A delusion is when you believe something that is irrational. It usually happens when a person wants to believe something badly enough, like the example of the battered wife who tells herself her husband is going to change. Vivian was deluding herself when she told herself that Hutch might not know what she did. Christian was completely aware of this. That is one reason he made the comment about what he would do to a man who said he was going to sleep in the same bedroom as his wife. He was making a comment about how weak Hutch was, but he was also pointing out that Hutch had to know what was going to happen. In other words he was telling Vivian she was being irrational, but he did not care because he knew Vivian was wrapped around his finger. Christian is enjoying humiliating Hutch, but Vivian, at this point, is not. You have provided no evidence that she is enjoying Hutch's humiliation. Saying she enjoys the humiliation is not evidence she enjoys the humiliation. Saying she keeps doing it is not evidence she is enjoying it because she is being manipulated into doing it. There is no evidence from the dialogue, the body language, or facial expressions of Vivian that she is enjoying Hutch's humiliation. You simply want to believe that. You may get your wish in the future, but that is not the case right now.

 

[packard1928]

True that.. But I think Vivian truly dispises Christian... However she is in love with the way he fucks her... She can't deny that...as mush as she curses him while he is doing it !

 

[Adhdclassic]

Vivian is humiliated Hutch. Intentionally or unintentionally, she is humiliating Hutch. Just using the house sexfest she fucked his boss in the open in the backyard. The risk was high lights on everywhere gone for a length of time and you and your husband are aware of who his boss is. You had loud sex 20 feet away from 2 twice in the bedroom, you walked past him buttnaked and fucked in the kitchen in the open again. All of that is humiliation as well as saying he is stupid. All of that is clear humiliation. I know some people believe humiliation is verbal and can say she didn't verbally humiliate him for the house yes, she did not verbally humiliate him she emotionally humiliated him. Now the bathroom scene she verbally humiliated him, even though she didn't know he was in there she still verbally humiliated him especially talking about his sexually self. Her playful banter with Christian is also a form of humiliation. So don't let it fool you she humiliated him. But hey this is just my perception of what I saw.

 

[TheDuke9999]

Vivian enjoying Christian fucking her is not evidence that she enjoys humiliating Hutch. As I wrote previously, Christian has power over her, including sexual power over her. She is submitting to Christian because he is able to dominate her through manipulation and through sex. As far as Vivian being dumb, that is correct, but far more than just being dumb, she deludes herself. Just because someone does something completely illogical does not mean that their behavior is unbelievable. It is illogical, for example, for a woman whose husband beats her for decades, to believe he is going to change and stop beating her, but there are MILLIONS of women who think that. A delusion is when you believe something that is irrational. It usually happens when a person wants to believe something badly enough, like the example of the battered wife who tells herself her husband is going to change. Vivian was deluding herself when she told herself that Hutch might not know what she did. Christian was completely aware of this. That is one reason he made the comment about what he would do to a man who said he was going to sleep in the same bedroom as his wife. He was making a comment about how weak Hutch was, but he was also pointing out that Hutch had to know what was going to happen. In other words he was telling Vivian she was being irrational, but he did not care because he knew Vivian was wrapped around his finger. Christian is enjoying humiliating Hutch, but Vivian, at this point, is not. You have provided no evidence that she is enjoying Hutch's humiliation. Saying she enjoys the humiliation is not evidence she enjoys the humiliation. Saying she keeps doing it is not evidence she is enjoying it because she is being manipulated into doing it. There is no evidence from the dialogue, the body language, or facial expressions of Vivian that she is enjoying Hutch's humiliation. You simply want to believe that. You may get your wish in the future, but that is not the case right now.

do you think vivian is smart enough to know the boss is humiliating her husband and enjoying every second of it by banging her with hutch right there in the same home? if your answer is yes then she is enjoying it also. she may deny in what she says but not by how she feels by allowing the boss to bang her all night long with hubby there knowing it will to destroy hutch.

 

[packard1928]

Remember Christian said.... I am going to steal your wife..... Yes he is doing everything to hutch on purpose...

 

[TheDuke9999]

i will say this could be one of the best NTR VN's out there at there moment .

 

[DarkArchon]

do you think vivian is smart enough to know the boss is humiliating her husband and enjoying every second of it by banging her with hutch right there in the same home? if your answer is yes then she is enjoying it also. she may deny in what she says but not by how she feels by allowing the boss to bang her all night long with hubby there knowing it will to destroy hutch.

The problem with your reasoning is that you believe that if a person repeats an action that means that they enjoy all of the consequences of their actions. For example, just because a person keeps getting drunk, that does not mean they enjoy getting hangovers. They might might enjoy drinking alcohol, or enjoy getting drunk, but they probably don't enjoy getting hangovers. It would be the same for them getting arrested for public drunkenness, or drunk driving, or something else. Vivian enjoys the sex with Christian, but at this point, she does not enjoy Hutch's humiliation. Christian is humiliating VIVIAN by getting her to betray Hutch. That is ONE of the ways he is humiliating her. It is not the only way he is doing it. He is also, of course, humiliating Hutch.

 

[Hattyrulz]

i will say this could be one of the best NTR VN's out there at there moment .

dont want to jinx it but i will agree for now but there are many good vns that have not been finished ntr or other genre... which many have forgotten or stuck in endless development. fingers crossed this will vn will still be good when we get the final update(irrespective of the ending the dev has planned for us)

Christian is humiliating VIVIAN by getting her to betray Hutch. That is ONE of the ways he is humiliating her. It is not the only way he is doing it. He is also, of course, humiliating Hutch.

very well worded. we are all interpretting this update with the facts the vn has give us so far. they may change but one thing is consistent is this story... thats is the forshadowing. the dev/author clearly says whats going to happen in one form or another and it happens... so far its all pointing towards vivian being the bad flawed individual and hutch being weak/fragile husband. but there are aspect or renders or dialogues in the story that have other version of them shown even if they are only a single frame. if the author continues this trend of forcasting what is going to happen then we might see a big change in the direction the story is going at the end of the 3rd update, where we will know both vivian and hutch's reasoning/thoughts.

 

[TheDuke9999]

The problem with your reasoning is that you believe that if a person repeats an action that means that they enjoy all of the consequences of their actions. For example, just because a person keeps getting drunk, that does not mean they enjoy getting hangovers. They might might enjoy drinking alcohol, or enjoy getting drunk, but they probably don't enjoy getting hangovers. It would be the same for them getting arrested for public drunkenness, or drunk driving, or something else. Vivian enjoys the sex with Christian, but at this point, she does not enjoy Hutch's humiliation. Christian is humiliating VIVIAN by getting her to betray Hutch. That is ONE of the ways he is humiliating her. It is not the only way he is doing it. He is also, of course, humiliating Hutch.

and she is allowing it by not stopping and doing it with hutch there. they could easily meet at a hotel room and do whatever they want. why is it always with hutch right there or hutch is in the home or building. why does the wife keep putting herself in that position knowing full well the boss is going to try to fuck her with hutch there. if it isnt humiliation then she must truly hate hutch because that is the worst thing you can do to a spouse. and thats why we love her.

 

[DarkArchon]

and she is allowing it by not stopping and doing it with hutch there. they could easily meet at a hotel room and do whatever they want. why is it always with hutch right there or hutch is in the home or building. why does the wife keep putting herself in that position knowing full well the boss is going to try to fuck her with hutch there. if it isnt humiliation then she must truly hate hutch because that is the worst thing you can do to a spouse. and thats why we love her.

I did not write that it was not humiliation. I wrote that Christian is humiliating both Vivian and Hutch. I also wrote that Christian has power over Vivian. That is how he gets her to humiliate Hutch. Tormenting Vivian by getting her to humiliate Hutch is part of Christian's game. He enjoys the power he has over her. He enjoys manipulating her, and he enjoys his sexual power over her. He knows she is too weak and foolish to resist.

 

[Hattyrulz]

we love her.

definitely a big NO. the character model yes . the vivian character in the vn

 

[Adhdclassic]

The one thing that needs to be remembered Vivian always had a choice. Manipulation or not she had a choice she could have talked to Hutch at anytime and let him be in on the decision she didn't. When they got in that backyard regardless of the conversation or how it happened she had a choice if he tried to force she could have screamed or fight back she did neither she chose for it to happen. She had many moments before and after to stop it or deal with it she chose not to talk to the man she swore to be with. Vivian proved 1 crucial thing about Hutch she had no respect for him before this incident.