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Workplace misconduct like shown here, such as black mail and harass ment all would be ending up in IRL cancellation of the guys - the point this game makes in enabling such behavior for the enjoyment of the audience. Non Con makes dialogues pointless and suspends reality.
There is no morality when the son and the husband get gaslit, humiliated, berated, drugged, betrayed and emotionally blackmailed. All are grounds to lose job, marriage, son and everything in a dispute. All of those. Boss pet gets her nothing.
There is no morality when the son and the husband get gaslit, humiliated, berated, drugged, betrayed and emotionally blackmailed. All are grounds to lose job, marriage, son and everything in a dispute. All of those. Boss pet gets her nothing.
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So I do and don't agree with the argument that she is just a hoe , now il try and not make this super wordy but no promises haha
Now before I start this is purely my opinion and there's nothing in the game to support this as of yet and yes it is just a game and it boils down to what way the Dev wants it to go but I'm trying to look at it and address it in a somewhat realistic way
So let's say she is just flat out a hoe and always has been I'd be more surprised that she has kept that side of her under control for 22+ years, I would of expected that dam to burst much sooner truth be told , now one way it could be done and I'm going to reference another game for this - so the game is my bimbo dream and let's just say she had a very adventurous past/younger days until there was a traumatic event which caused those impulses to disappear essentially like turning off a light switch but for this we would need more of a backstory around her past as without it I don't see it working
Now I agree that her "hoe" antlers just didn't grow over night, but with this it doesn't necessarily mean that she's a hoe , i would say it's not uncommon that in long term relationships that people's tastes change or want to try new things , probably the most common trope with this is the "I've been a good girl all my life " logic and they want to rebel and be adventurous
Now with this all starting I do genuinely believe that she thinks she's doing it for the right reasons and doesn't see it becoming a regular thing , but I would say as the story progresses it definitely becomes that she is doing this for herself rather than hutch and that she is hiding behind the shield that it's all for hutch so that she doesn't have to admit that she is a bad wife or that she is in the wrong , so there is a massive denial element to it all on her behalf
So I would say without any supporting evidence it's a hard sell on any theory around it as there's nothing to support it ... Maybe this will come in future updates but who knows
Now this next point is definitely based around what has happened in the game and I can evidence it and I would say this could be the most likely idea or theory to it all
So it is clear to see that when there is some form of conflict that directly involves her she doesn't know how too or lacks the ability to problem solve and actual deal with an issue in a proper way
So from what I have seen Vivians go to resolution to a conflict is her body/sex , so here are my examples: hutch may or may not lose his job so that effects money into the house .... Resolution - Vivian fucks Christian , Vivian can clearly see that hutch is not himself and she believes that he is mad/upset with her... Resolution - sexy times and actually goes to the point where she offers anal but when hutch rejects this she is like a fish out of water and has no idea what to do next , in that same scene she actually references that hutch can never stay mad at her when she turns it on and offers out the sexy good times so it is clear to see there is a trend of this
So it could just be that this is what happened and before she knew it the situation got out of control and got away from her.
Curious to see what you say back to this haha
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It’s fascinating to observe the evolution of readers' attitudes – some don’t change, others make a complete 360-degree turn 
As SC mentions at the beginning – sometimes we do bad things for good reasons. In this case, under Chris’s influence, something clicked (meshed) in Vivian’s behavior. Under his influence, Viv discovers her other "self" – you could say she’s on the path to self-destruction(Road to Damnation). However – is it really the case? Yes, the betrayal itself is worthy of condemnation, but at the same time, it is so common in our society (Euro-America) that it’s just brushed off as something ordinary. Though, of course, men tend to cheat more often, they never face the same level of negativity as women (slut? why go so harsh). Men are often even glorified for it.
But anyway, let’s put morality aside.
I don’t expect the creator to explain "why Vivian did it, what aspects of her past influenced this, or if it’s a genetic predisposition." This knowledge is unnecessary – the author may, but doesn’t have to, explain it (I’d rather not). It simply happened, and that’s it. What’s interesting is how the story will unfold – of course, we already have a rough roadmap with stops, but we don’t know where it’s headed. I’m eagerly awaiting the next episode of "Starsky Vivian& Hutch," or some teaser from the source about the progress (SC Stories)
As SC mentions at the beginning – sometimes we do bad things for good reasons. In this case, under Chris’s influence, something clicked (meshed) in Vivian’s behavior. Under his influence, Viv discovers her other "self" – you could say she’s on the path to self-destruction(Road to Damnation). However – is it really the case? Yes, the betrayal itself is worthy of condemnation, but at the same time, it is so common in our society (Euro-America) that it’s just brushed off as something ordinary. Though, of course, men tend to cheat more often, they never face the same level of negativity as women (slut? why go so harsh). Men are often even glorified for it.But anyway, let’s put morality aside.
I don’t expect the creator to explain "why Vivian did it, what aspects of her past influenced this, or if it’s a genetic predisposition." This knowledge is unnecessary – the author may, but doesn’t have to, explain it (I’d rather not). It simply happened, and that’s it. What’s interesting is how the story will unfold – of course, we already have a rough roadmap with stops, but we don’t know where it’s headed. I’m eagerly awaiting the next episode of "
(SC Stories)It's rather admirable that you try again and again to convince us of this disciplined attitude - but isn't the question "why" the clue to what will happen? And imagine reading "Madame Bovary" and not asking Why? With asking the question Why the emancipation of the slut from slut-shaming started in the Western mind (for good or bad). We as readers were admonished and seduded into trying to understand her...
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Of course, you’re right, but we more or less know what motivated her – breaking it down into finer details is unnecessary. The foundation for her decision has been presented to us, and searching for additional sources of the choice doesn’t add much. The author doesn’t need to elaborate on Vivian’s life 30 years back (the classic – reference to the father). We can infer the psychological and social factors, and the material ones are clearly highlighted. Regardless of who initiated the sex in the garden – it didn’t come easily to her.
Tell me – does anyone analyze why de Valmont and de Merteuil ( Dangerous Liaisons ) are the way they are? They play with emotions, sex, relationships, and then face the consequences. No one writes an essay about why they were like that. I don’t think anyone is really that interested – because the answer is simple: corrupted/depraved aristocrats.
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Guys like to cause mayhem with nothing to their name, absolutely nothing. We do call them out on it, today, they are: man whores, gigolos, sex workers, he-pussy. Women are shown time and time and again to like to destroy everything in their lives: marriage, son, husband, career, status - absolutely everything - for the ”prince charming” who is a brainless bull. Tropes in fictional realities attract fans.
The whole plot comes out of nowhere, other than something that feels like the flimsiest, most unnecessary, and unbelievable power fantasy for the villain characters to wallow in; there is very little for some incentive or suspense about a milf supposedly seducing a younger bull: plot armored villains and contrived plots that use protagonists brain rot for any plausable explanation are simple yet effective adult entertainment character tropes that make players tune in to watch the dumpster fire.
This game is all about villains having the full blame squarely and heavily canonically stuck on their plot armored, bull shoulders and overthinking is simply another adult entertainment trope players like to engage in all over this thread
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While I'm not disagreeing your opinion or anyone else's.. Vivian had a choice , be a good wife and leave with your husband.. or cuck and humiliate your husband?? Now did she think she was help her husband? Sure . Did she have sex with the boss all night with good intentions sure.. but regardless of the reason she is still helping Christian cuck and humiliate Hutch willingly and enjoying it. THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS god bless and goodnight... drops mic
But then doesn't this loop back to my point that she only seems to resolve conflict with her body/sex as she doesn't know how to do it other wise
Vivian's problem is that she wants to have a loving, safe husband and a wild adventure, exiting sex with Chris.
I don't know luc , while I agree as the story progresses that may be an element of it , but I would say as it stands and what we know so far I don't think it's solely as cut and dry as that so to speak
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So after hearing so much about this KN I played it last night. I think the main genre of this KN isn't corruption or NTR but HotWife. And it's the journey how Vivian will become one and how the Hutch will become a quiet cuck not the japanese one where he will fap hearing her report or NTS type where he will watch. But the one who will sit around in home knowing she is fucking Christian if it's one bull story or many others if the BBC, student, son's frnd were also used.
And I think she wanted to fuck Christian the moment she saw her.
She went to kiss him after he tricked her. For Christian it's power play. His talk hints that he mostly fucks married pussy.
Also she never fucked Christian for Hutch sake, she is just a plain cheater. Even though if you're fucking your husband's boss you would want it to be discreet. No one would would be stupid enough to fuck the boss in the backyard and blowing him knowing you husband may caught you any moment. She was just dying to fuck him the moment she saw her again.
This is what she said about the backyard fuck.
More proof that she is smitten by him
She even sniff Christian shirt
Even when everything was falling for her marriage she kept the shirt
She always saying this is the last time but never firmly refused him. Some of the things she does happens way later in corruption or NTR game. And she is clearly smitten by his dick at this point. She fucked him knowing Hutch can woke up any moment. Went with Christian in his bedroom again to satisfy him without him telling her to go down on him.
Rides him later and clearly enjoying it.
She clearly knows intimacy is her husband love language but still didn't hesitate to give it away.
She knew that something was wrong with her husband after the backyard scene but still kept going. Because like most Hotwife stories FMC she always gets what she wanted so she just took it and think she can make Hutch sing her song.
But it didn't go her way, even offering sex didn't work this time
She clearly knows she can manipulate him, her actions and words don't match most times. Even though she tells before and after the bathroom scene that she didn't want to work for Christian. She already decided it in the bathroom. She said No to work because she thought it would make Hutch less hostile toward her.
She even kissed Christian all smiley and almost had a park sex when she thought her marriage was over knowing that Hutch was there in the bathroom. Also even angrily she seems to comply Christian
So I don't think she is being blackmailed or did it for Hutch sake. She did it because she wanted to and maybe the excuse was to secure her finance.
The BBC (she was clearly impressed by his thing)
The Student
Her son's friend.
So the hubby should be happy enough to become a quiet cuck and wait for her in the home while she keeps fucking around. He should be happy that she choose to be his wife and always comes back home. The update closes on this note. And my likeness for Hutch dropped. He clearly didn't confront his wife after the backyard incident because he didn't know what to do in the situation. Tried his best to move past it and go home but Vivian clearly didn't have enough of Christian so went to his bed. Gave her enough hints so she can come clean. But she kept lying and Christian manipulation he caved in I guess.
Though I would like to think he wants to test her if she will be faithful this time, But who am I kidding this will never happen.
This type of cuck in Hotwife story usually spy on the wife and find out that she didn't kept her promise and will come around his jealousy
and will accept it.
If the story is more Christian bull focused then the open marriage will become a very understanding lover (Christian) who lets his women stay married to her husband.
This thought change is the corruption factor I guess.
And I think she wanted to fuck Christian the moment she saw her.
She went to kiss him after he tricked her. For Christian it's power play. His talk hints that he mostly fucks married pussy.
Also she never fucked Christian for Hutch sake, she is just a plain cheater. Even though if you're fucking your husband's boss you would want it to be discreet. No one would would be stupid enough to fuck the boss in the backyard and blowing him knowing you husband may caught you any moment. She was just dying to fuck him the moment she saw her again.
This is what she said about the backyard fuck.
More proof that she is smitten by him
She even sniff Christian shirt
Even when everything was falling for her marriage she kept the shirt
Yep you're absolutely right. What I liked Hutch as a character he clearly tried to stop this. He told her how bad his boss is. Complained about her dress. She went with Christian for house tour, even after some shit Christian pulled I think he trusted her. At-least subconsciously anyone would think they are not stupid enough to start fucking in the backyard. Later he clearly objected about staying and refusing her to share bed with him. Vivian didn't backup him instead readily went with Christian saying it would be rude to decline.
I don't think there is blackmail she just needed an excuse. She didn't had to fuck him 5 more time in the bedroom, Christian clearly states that every now and then.
She always saying this is the last time but never firmly refused him. Some of the things she does happens way later in corruption or NTR game. And she is clearly smitten by his dick at this point. She fucked him knowing Hutch can woke up any moment. Went with Christian in his bedroom again to satisfy him without him telling her to go down on him.
Rides him later and clearly enjoying it.
She clearly knows intimacy is her husband love language but still didn't hesitate to give it away.
She knew that something was wrong with her husband after the backyard scene but still kept going. Because like most Hotwife stories FMC she always gets what she wanted so she just took it and think she can make Hutch sing her song.
But it didn't go her way, even offering sex didn't work this time
She clearly knows she can manipulate him, her actions and words don't match most times. Even though she tells before and after the bathroom scene that she didn't want to work for Christian. She already decided it in the bathroom. She said No to work because she thought it would make Hutch less hostile toward her.
She even kissed Christian all smiley and almost had a park sex when she thought her marriage was over knowing that Hutch was there in the bathroom. Also even angrily she seems to comply Christian
So I don't think she is being blackmailed or did it for Hutch sake. She did it because she wanted to and maybe the excuse was to secure her finance.
The few Hotwife stories I read all had princess FMC where hubby always gives them what they want (Hutch gave her a car as a present) and the husband is a pushover. All other males wants to fuck her and make her their wife.
The BBC (she was clearly impressed by his thing)
The Student
Her son's friend.
So the hubby should be happy enough to become a quiet cuck and wait for her in the home while she keeps fucking around. He should be happy that she choose to be his wife and always comes back home. The update closes on this note. And my likeness for Hutch dropped. He clearly didn't confront his wife after the backyard incident because he didn't know what to do in the situation. Tried his best to move past it and go home but Vivian clearly didn't have enough of Christian so went to his bed. Gave her enough hints so she can come clean. But she kept lying and Christian manipulation he caved in I guess.
Though I would like to think he wants to test her if she will be faithful this time, But who am I kidding this will never happen.
This type of cuck in Hotwife story usually spy on the wife and find out that she didn't kept her promise and will come around his jealousy
and will accept it.
If the story is more Christian bull focused then the open marriage will become a very understanding lover (Christian) who lets his women stay married to her husband.
This thought change is the corruption factor I guess.This is a really well put together post so fair play , il not bore you with my theories or opinions to much, I would of just liked it in the scene where hutch opens the marriage that he makes her feel like absolute shit I would of put her through the ringer and let her see just how much of a cunt she is haha, hell I'd of even moved out I would of turned her world upside down , now with that being said if that happened it wouldn't make for much of a game haha so I can live with what happened.
The main thing for me and I've never been shy about it is I can't stand Vivian in the slightest and this is before it all truly happens I just think she has a horrible personality and I just can't make myself like her character at all , she has this victim mentality about it all when it's all come from her actions and I can't stand that either
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I totally agree with you. Maybe she fucked him in the backyard in the heat of the moment or pressured/persuaded helping her husband (we only know this because Christian hints at it). But she willingly took his hand to enter Christian's bedroom when her husband tried to leave the house and clearly denied his offer. She willingly sucked and ride him after the kitchen. There was never much resistance form her. Even in the bathroom scene she didn't resist much. And mocked him that her husband needs blue pills etc. Even before that while she knew her husband was upset about her and Christian took his call and share intimate detail about her couple life with a stranger and sent selfie knowing she is in a revealing dress.
The question Why is always a bourgeois question. Aristocrats just behave like they do, there you are right.
But where are we in this regard?
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Not quite correct. She denied to work for him in the office. This wasn't accordingg Christias plan and surely not something that Christian could just leave there.
Shortly after in the bathroom he blackmailed her either to work the little project with him or the company might loses money, salesman, and Huutch job as well. She then accepted his offer but mentioned she needs to convince Huutch before making it official.
All states in US have no-fault divorce whereby it cannot be contested by either party. While 16 states still have Adultery listed as a crime it is never enforced and would never withstand a challenge on constitutional grounds. Where adultery comes into play in divorce proceedings is when a prenup is involved if that is listed as a nullifying clause. Other than that you can file for divorce using adultery as grounds, but you need proof. Really, no-fault divorce is much easier and less expensive. Claims of adultery with proof may help in providing leverage in division of assets if the adulterous party is concerned about professional reputation. Interestingly, South Carolina still had an action whereby you could sue the person your husband/wife cheated with- it’s rarely used and again, most likely not constitutional.
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To sue the blackmailing boss who cheated you out of your job, that of your wife? As a plus, your wife will happily testify for what shit Chris already done in this game. MC gets a huge settlement or wins the lottery in damages, then he and his wife can happily and amicably split it up.
No constitution will ever stop you from bringing the blackmailing rapist boss down in the dirt, but it's a nifty lesson in worthless laws nobody, not even the constitution, seems to enforce, according to whatever was said above.