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In my Imagination Vivian had lived quite an extraordinary life while being in college. She's still a bombshell in her forties.
A tramp stamp could say a lot about someone.
From my point of view given the fact that she married someone like Hutch,
this means nothing other than that the choice of those willing to marry her after college tended towards zero.

The quote from the Edger Allen Poe poem on her neck is a clear sign of where this journey will take us. It's a sad one...
Thats a valid point and one likely to be the case.That will answer alot of her behavior.That will mean though she was lying to him the duration of her marriage.She settled with him and never actually was in love and lust with him.Thats another dagger in his hear if thats the case and it comes up in the future.
 

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I think it may turn into NTS. The boss has talked many times about knowing husbands like Hutch and that they all gave permission to fuck their wives. Then lo and behold at the end Hutch proves him right. To me that reads as set up for what's to come
yeah we will see for now I see it as NTS lite rather than a full on NTS game. cause Hutch really isn't into the whole idea or fetish of sharing his wife but more so unwillingly accepting it for the sake of his marriage , job and family.
 

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Bad ending Hutch Dies son never talks to his mother again. Chris plays with her a lil while longer dumps her for the next married woman.
 
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I think it may turn into NTS. The boss has talked many times about knowing husbands like Hutch and that they all gave permission to fuck their wives. Then lo and behold at the end Hutch proves him right. To me that reads as set up for what's to come
I don't see any logic in the story of this game becoming NTS, the husband is going through hell and suddenly he starts to like it? That would ruin the story. This story was presented as a story of betrayal, with a wife who seems strong but is weak, and a husband who is weak but is now trying to be strong, even though he has already lost the battle.
 

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I don't see any logic in the story of this game becoming NTS, the husband is going through hell and suddenly he starts to like it? That would ruin the story. This story was presented as a story of betrayal, with a wife who seems strong but is weak, and a husband who is weak but is now trying to be strong, even though he has already lost the battle.
I mean I don't think you need a husband to be into it to call it a NTS story or shifting towards Story towards NTS. Yeah won't ever be a full blown NTS story without him being into it but more NTS lite. I don't really see how it doesn't make any sense since the open relationship is more one sided and he doesn't want details. The Husband not into it and unwillingly suggest the idea to not lose his job , save his family from fanatical ruin and potentially save his marriage. To me that makes sense now if the Husband all of sudden did it because he likes it or is into it then yeah it wouldn't make any logical sense to me.
 

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I don't see any logic in the story of this game becoming NTS, the husband is going through hell and suddenly he starts to like it? That would ruin the story. This story was presented as a story of betrayal, with a wife who seems strong but is weak, and a husband who is weak but is now trying to be strong, even though he has already lost the battle.
I mean technically all you need for NTS is for permission, which has been given. Also it could easily turn into him liking it in multiple ways. Coping mechanism being one especially since he's weak enough to know she cheated, say nothing about it, then not only divorce but give her permission to keep going. Clear cuck behavior like the boss points out. He's miserable right now but as time goes on (and with manipulation by either the wife, boss, or both) might find it's easier to cope with by acting like you like it. In any NTS/NTR game one of the themes is the jealousy, the powerlessness, pain and pleasure mixed. I think it's quite a stretch and dramatic to say the story would be "ruined" when from what I've seen so far I think dev could write it to be well done and compelling
 
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Question is what is Christians end goal and how will Hutch respond. Vivian really isn't relevant she is a product of the game. This is a guy game of Chicken and right now Christian is ahead. Hutch can move out the way or he can move and put his foot out. Haven't been this interested in a sexual AVN in awhile.
 
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In the bedroom after Hutch comes home from the office and they have the talk.... Vivian mentions they will do what is needed TOGETHER. Hutch agrees. So I guess even if Christian plot sex with her Hutch may be aware in some manner as mention he did not want details. But, if they are together and plot something he will have to be in the middle somehow.
 

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Question is what is Christians end goal and how will Hutch respond. Vivian really isn't relevant she is a product of the game. This is a guy game of Chicken and right now Christian is ahead. Hutch can move out the way or he can move and put his foot out. Haven't been this interested in a sexual AVN in awhile.
Who's to say Christian is even playing a game? He indicates that fucking wives is one of his favorite pastimes, it's possible that he simply intends to bang Vivian until he's bored of her and then move on. His game could literally be to just get whatever personal benefit he can get out of her, ruin her marriage, and then toss her aside.
 

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True.... But As I play again I find Christians attitude towards Hutch interesting. He in the beginning is very cold towards him. But seeing how he is handling him banging his wife he has a weird respect for him. even tell his wife that. Being a man
 

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The thing is, even if Hutch wasn't there, As Adhdclassic said, her kissing in the cheek and acting playful (a sign of intimacy, complicity) with the guy she supposedly hates or consider him an asshole makes her an hypocrite and an asshole too.
Exactly, in fact, it was from that moment on that I got the idea that Hutch and Vivian would not end up together. That bathroom scene is kind of a big nail in the coffin of their marriage, so to speak. The kiss on the cheek, when she whispers "asshole" to him... It's clear that what she's doing is no longer being done with her husband in mind.

After all, she can cry all she wants, but as long as Christian is still after her, she's going to keep giving herself to him, whether she has an excuse or not.
 

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Question is what is Christians end goal and how will Hutch respond. Vivian really isn't relevant she is a product of the game. This is a guy game of Chicken and right now Christian is ahead. Hutch can move out the way or he can move and put his foot out. Haven't been this interested in a sexual AVN in awhile.
I think the thrill of power. Considering what we know of Christian from what Hutch has said and what Christian himself has said my read is that his end goal is simply fucking wives and getting that power trip over their husbands. I don't believe Christian has any true feelings of love for Vivian or anything but I could be wrong
 

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In the bedroom after Hutch comes home from the office and they have the talk.... Vivian mentions they will do what is needed TOGETHER. Hutch agrees. So I guess even if Christian plot sex with her Hutch may be aware in some manner as mention he did not want details. But, if they are together and plot something he will have to be in the middle somehow.
Only problem is she is no longer trustworthy. She lied, deceived, regardless of the reason. She broke her vows brutally. There is no together, whatever he does he has to do it alone.
 

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In the bedroom after Hutch comes home from the office and they have the talk.... Vivian mentions they will do what is needed TOGETHER. Hutch agrees. So I guess even if Christian plot sex with her Hutch may be aware in some manner as mention he did not want details. But, if they are together and plot something he will have to be in the middle somehow.
I think so too. The teaser for the next update shows Vivian and I'm assuming Christian holding hands in front of Hutch. My guess is that Christian is the type of dude that will force a situation of fucking Vivian right in front of Hutch at some point
 

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Exactly, in fact, it was from that moment on that I got the idea that Hutch and Vivian would not end up together. That bathroom scene is kind of a big nail in the coffin of their marriage, so to speak. The kiss on the cheek, when she whispers "asshole" to him... It's clear that what she's doing is no longer being done with her husband in mind.

After all, she can cry all she wants, but as long as Christian is still after her, she's going to keep giving herself to him, whether she has an excuse or not.
Vivian wants to have her cake and eat it too. She wants the excitement and taboo of fucking other dudes but she also wants to have the traditional loving marriage with Hutch or maybe she wants the image of a traditional loving marriage and the societal approval attached to it
 
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Wow, I find it impressive that this game, good novel, has managed in just 4 days more pages of comments and speculation than anything I've seen before on the forum, as you can see despite the time I have on the forum I practically do not give my opinion since I do not speak English and at this moment I am using the translator, but well, going to the subject in question I dared to try to give my opinion on this because I had not come across a novel that captivated me in this way, it really made me feel angry, I did not want what was happening to continue happening but I wanted to know more, I wanted to see more, how far it all went, it seemed like one more character in the story I could not think of anything else, thousands of questions about why and how it got to this, exciting, disturbing, it completely caught me something that practically none of the games here have achieved, in short I have carefully read the comments on the forum and the amount of theories that have been developed is impressive, but I think of a marriage of more than 20 years how can this happen and be so powerless as to not react like that! I don't understand it. First she meets the boss in the morning, just a conversation of minutes, at night she already accepts in the patio that they take her and make her suck cock after I don't know 20 minutes, how did he force her, really blackmail her or convince her, what terms did he use to get her to give in so quickly, then in the room it was clear that she knew that when she entered the situation would continue, but as much as I think about it I say, fuck does she really think that the noise and the moans are not going to be heard they are in a room just meters from the husband besides it was not that she had sex, I understand that if they force you accept with contempt that they use you and that's it, but she was all night until morning being penetrated by a guy that she barely knows how could she accept being used where did she get the resistance besides when dawn breaks it is she who is on top dominating sex, and she leaves the room acting like an idiot, it does not hurt damn, it does not smell like sex seriously she believes that her husband of so many years I would not recognize him that is where my real torment begins, we should and I hope it happens to have her point of view of the whole situation to understand it better, you know I would love for Cristian to show her the images of his house and she saw her husband writhing in pain from what he was seeing and hearing during the night to check if that would really destroy her seeing the damage she had caused to her husband and their relationship, would she rectify or ......, after the bathroom event it is clear to both that they know each other but then, they do not talk about it, how not to explode in front of her and she cries and seems to have remorse but accepts and this consists of the boss is going to use her as he pleases, by agreeing to work for him yes he has already manipulated or deceived or blackmailed her, where is the sincerity and trust although broken after so much time together I do not know where this novel will lead us but I am really intrigued, it managed to awaken my interests truly perhaps the strongest immersion I have experienced in a novel, if the husband had a plan that would be the moment of communicating the action plan, I don't know, there are so many to clarify, but in short, it is by far a really well-made story that captures you and makes you experience its feelings, suffering, anger, helplessness, damn, I think I went too far, but well, I had to get it off my chest, I just hope that it keeps us at this level of absorbing quality, good luck to everyone.
 

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Only problem is she is no longer trustworthy. She lied, deceived, regardless of the reason. She broke her vows brutally. There is no together, whatever he does he has to do it alone.
I think that talk she was sincere because she knows that Hutch knows she has been fucking Christian. So they have a heart to heart and resolve to do this " Job" together. So.. I hope they continue together and bring him down. Just a guess though...
 

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I think that talk she was sincere because she knows that Hutch knows she has been fucking Christian. So they have a heart to heart and resolve to do this " Job" together. So.. I hope they continue together and bring him down. Just a guess though...
I hope so too. That conversation you take with a grain of salt. But the more she is with Christian or any other man that is not her husband she has to be treated with caution cause she is no longer the women you married 22years ago. She experienced something she either never experienced before or has but not for a long time. The only thing I can see keeping her with him is her son but that is not a guarantee. We will see.
 
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The only thing I can see keeping her with him is her son but that is not a guarantee. We will see.
For me it's a little different at least unless her character goes through a change through deveolopment. But for right now I think she is gonna stay with him not just cause of her son and family they built together for 22 years. But I do think she does genuinely love Hutch. As if she didn't I don't them she would of been feeling all this remorse and guilt for what she has done.

So I think if she does leave Hutch what will end up pushing her away will untimely be Hutch not being able to go through and accept the open relationship or forgive her. I really don't think another guy or new experiences will drive her away until it becomes clear to her Hutch doesnt love her or want anything to do with her anymore and he is just putting on a brave face / facade for her and his job.
 

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Hutch express how much he loves Vivian to Christion in the parking lot . And, Christian said she loves him just as much. So he must have a fetish to fuck married women. He mention some of the husbands of the women and their fetishes. That said after the talk and the open marriage I think they will work together. Hutch will soldier on thru this chapter until he can't I guess. I just want him to get the girl and get even.
 
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