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what's her name??
Never heard of her, but a two-second reverse image search tells me it's Makenna Blue.Unfortunately, no name
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what's her name??
Never heard of her, but a two-second reverse image search tells me it's Makenna Blue.Unfortunately, no name
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dev is going to cook for us too? i think making this amazing VN for us for free is more than enough .. just sayin..Let him cook!
well damn i must admit you pretty much nailed it on that recap for real.. couldnt have said it any better myself . i mean i talk shit alot but that was really good. nice to have the female perspective to really put things in place.. good job!!!!!!!Well, I had a quick look at the psychological questions/dilemmas that are discussed here. It took a good while. I made a summary and included my personal point of view and thougts as I promised:
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you fall from the sky like a star...Please feel free to ask if I skipped any juicy dilemmas or spicy psychological questions...![]()
What in Chat-GPT AI Generation is this?!Let's look at the reality of female nature, Vivian's nature, through what the Bible revealed about women, as God tried to warn men to grow two eye's on the back of their heads when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex.
Adam and Eve are sitting in the garden of Eden gazing up into the heavens, they can see all of Gods creation, when Adam turn's to Eve and says
" Eve isn't this amazing, God has given us life, God has given us everything that we desire, we have all that we'll ever need, we are immortal and are at one with God and Gods mind, we know his plan, isn't this devine"
To which Eve replays
" ahhh, it's still not enough "
Point being lads, men are like loyal puppies and women are scheming cats. women in general ( if they're going to be honest) don't give a f%£k about you, never have and never will, they don't give a fuck and your problem's, ( Hutch) they are agents of chaos, addicted to drama like drugs addicts are to their next hit ( Vivian). Women now-a-days aren't interested in building anything with men, they wait at the Finnish line to pick the winner ( Chris).
When most women marry they marry their second or third choices, they marry for all the wrong reasons.
You as a man, could be a six foot, tall dark and handsome bastard, half a monk and half a James Bond special forces operator, that show's up at all the exact times, whispering all the exact word's into her ear's exactly the way she read in the last romance novel or ROM com that she's watched and it still wouldn't be enough
You could give her everything that she ever desired, the money, the perfect house, in the perfect location, the two best sports cars that money can buy and the the 2.5 kids and jet setting holidays all over the world, and she will quite happily burn it all to the ground, in order to feel good, just for a few hour's, meaning, if a twat, a loser, who doesn't give a fuck about her or what she thinks or wants shows up, looking OK but is armed to the theeth with all the right moves and all the right words that make her FEEL good, just for a few hours, her panties will dropped quicker that a nuclear weapon and she will blame you.
Remember, women are emotion machine's that run on FEELINGS, there is no logic to anything they do or say, they want that alpha male ( that bad boy) Chris, that will take her on an emotional rollercoaster ride, that will psychology fuck her up for the rest of her life but she won't care as long as somewhere in experience of that ride she got to FEEL alive ( Vivian)
Hutch is a good man, family man, thoughtful, caring hard working and a loving father and husband
Vivian is a typically modern day, deluded and entitled feminist slut, who is bored with life, bored with hutch and her border with her marriage and she is seeking an escape route, to FEEL good and she thinks she found it in Chris. What Vivian is doing is not out of love for her husband or her family ( that's the lie she told hutch and herself) in order to cope with being a entitled slag, Vivian is doing what she wants to do but she's trying to frame it as a selfless act of good intentions to help her husband, which is far from the truth, Chris is exciting, Chris is unpredictable, Chris is dangerous, Chris has social clout and influence, and what she's not telling hutch is that Chris has a bigger dick.
Vivian will bang Chris, she sleep with all of Chris client's, half Hutch's office colleges and the twins, she more than likely fuckef some of her students and in the end She will blame hutch, because that's who she really is a self serving narcissist
It’s like marriage is a comfy old sweater, but sometimes those tight leather pants are dangerous and thrilling![]()
These are the points I think should be emphasized in this mini-summary. It reflects an unique female perspective on a dilemma a woman faces in normal life sexual interactions.Sorry guys but it’s the alpha male energy that makes your knees weak and your panties drop!![]()
Yep! I believe that it is in your brain that makes you want more. Dopamine plays a major role in this situation, it is not enough and you want more try more and taste more.I think why Vivian continues is no mystery. For me, it is like a drug, it is bad, but can't stop wanting more of that high.
I'm disappointed even though i knew to an extent this aligns with dukes views of vivian... which i would have prefered to not be true. interesting how to you say the lovely solution is "not to own, but to love without owning". that's just basically the same as have a deal with an escort. it's not a relationship or marriage or any sort of ship if we word it so.Well, I had a quick look at the psychological questions/dilemmas that are discussed here. It took a good while. I made a summary and included my personal point of view and thougts as I promised:
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My first few affairs? really? does that mean there are other later affairs?during my first few affairs.
Being committed has absolutely nothing to do with "owning" your partner. That's just a crazy way to see it."not to own, but to love without owning"
I doubt this describes Vivian. At least we should put it in relative terms - one often hears women say "well, if the right man comes along, I put out my submissive side, but if I'm dealing with betas, I like to be strong myself". These are all terms which can be switched if it is convenient and in order to rationalize behaviour post factum. Meaning, these are not character traits which explain the behaviour, but in the contrary, situational dynamics which have to be explained themselves. Interestingly, the submissive side seems to be expressed, when it's about avoiding responsibility - although, in the case of Vivian, she hasn't played that card herself until now, so maybe we should wait before declaring her to be a submissive. There are hints, that she played a role in making Hutch the "beta" he seems to be now.As a submissive woman who loves being dominated, I understand this. Christian’s dominance taps into Vivian’s sexual preferences,
Yes, I really like the story. At some points, it feels depressing when you empathize with Hutch. It happens for him all of a sudden. For Vivian, I believe there is more in the background so that things develop rather easily for her. Sorry, I won't hear her inner conflicts. We are our actions more than our thoughts. On the other hand, watching how Vivian enjoys that a strong, assertive man dominates her and satisfies her womanly needs is quite entertaining. Sometimes, all you need is a good rough bang-bang, which you have been craving for for years.
Escort analogy is oversimplification and I got the feeling I'm not understood well. When you truly love someone, you let him/her do things that make him/her happy. You share his/her happiness. Why would sex be any different? To be honest, I would let my husband enjoy the fruits of life as long as we remain loyal to our romantic/emotional commitment. I do understand and already said that it is really hard for many men and women to have this mind set. And my husband is no exception. Just imagine how much fun and adventure one could bring into his/her life, if adopted this perspective. For many, maybe I'm a cheating woman, but how many have listened to my side of the story? I'm not saying I am a saint and I would be the first to admit it.
My husband doesn't know about my affairs. He's never been open-minded, shutting down every attempt I made to connect or talk through our struggles. Marriage takes constant effort to thrive over a lifetime, you can't just pull away and expect it to work. I poured my heart into us for years, but exhaustion and loneliness eventually took over. Some might say, "Just leave him, then have your affairs." But it's not that simple when you're a mom with a kid who needs stability, a home you've built together, and a life intertwined after 15 years. In a country like Turkey, divorce is even harder. Culturally, it's stigmatized, especially for women, who face being ostracized or labeled as failures, and legally, it's a long, grueling process that can drag on for years. Besides, I still love my husband deeply, he's the father of my child and my partner in countless ways. My affairs aren't about betrayal or a lack of love, they're purely physical, a way to reclaim a piece of myself in a marriage that's left me feeling invisible for far too long. These experiences have opened the door to bold, electrifying moments that awaken a passionate, adventurous side of me, reminding me who I am beyond just being a wife and mother. They're a temporary escape, a chance to feel alive and desired again, but they don't change my commitment to my family.
Don't know what that is supposed to mean, especially if you project your inner thoughts on the actions of others. One of the few certain things we can say at the moment about Vivian is that she is conflicted.Sorry, I won't hear her inner conflicts. We are our actions more than our thoughts.
I believe that a person cannot judge others, but I am 100% sure that none of the men present here would want to live with such a wife. There is a certain line, having crossed which a woman changes and all subsequent conversations about love and happiness are an excuse for her own whoredom. And after that, she will not change, she will cheat more and more until she gets caught, this can happen right away or maybe in years, but it will happen.Yes, I really like the story. At some points, it feels depressing when you empathize with Hutch. It happens for him all of a sudden. For Vivian, I believe there is more in the background so that things develop rather easily for her. Sorry, I won't hear her inner conflicts. We are our actions more than our thoughts. On the other hand, watching how Vivian enjoys that a strong, assertive man dominates her and satisfies her womanly needs is quite entertaining. Sometimes, all you need is a good rough bang-bang, which you have been craving for for years.
Escort analogy is oversimplification and I got the feeling I'm not understood well. When you truly love someone, you let him/her do things that make him/her happy. You share his/her happiness. Why would sex be any different? To be honest, I would let my husband enjoy the fruits of life as long as we remain loyal to our romantic/emotional commitment. I do understand and already said that it is really hard for many men and women to have this mind set. And my husband is no exception. Just imagine how much fun and adventure one could bring into his/her life, if adopted this perspective. For many, maybe I'm a cheating woman, but how many have listened to my side of the story? I'm not saying I am a saint and I would be the first to admit it.
My husband doesn't know about my affairs. He's never been open-minded, shutting down every attempt I made to connect or talk through our struggles. Marriage takes constant effort to thrive over a lifetime, you can't just pull away and expect it to work. I poured my heart into us for years, but exhaustion and loneliness eventually took over. Some might say, "Just leave him, then have your affairs." But it's not that simple when you're a mom with a kid who needs stability, a home you've built together, and a life intertwined after 15 years. In a country like Turkey, divorce is even harder. Culturally, it's stigmatized, especially for women, who face being ostracized or labeled as failures, and legally, it's a long, grueling process that can drag on for years. Besides, I still love my husband deeply, he's the father of my child and my partner in countless ways. My affairs aren't about betrayal or a lack of love, they're purely physical, a way to reclaim a piece of myself in a marriage that's left me feeling invisible for far too long. These experiences have opened the door to bold, electrifying moments that awaken a passionate, adventurous side of me, reminding me who I am beyond just being a wife and mother. They're a temporary escape, a chance to feel alive and desired again, but they don't change my commitment to my family.
Maybe i misunderstood you or my explanation is lacking...whichever it maybe i still don't see how when you truly love someone you let them break the boundaries of the relationship. how can you share happiness when one person's happiness comes at the cost of the other involved.Escort analogy is oversimplification and I got the feeling I'm not understood well. When you truly love someone, you let him/her do things that make him/her happy. You share his/her happiness. Why would sex be any different? To be honest, I would let my husband enjoy the fruits of life as long as we remain loyal to our romantic/emotional commitment. I do understand and already said that it is really hard for many men and women to have this mind set. And my husband is no exception. Just imagine how much fun and adventure one could bring into his/her life, if adopted this perspective. For many, maybe I'm a cheating woman, but how many have listened to my side of the story? I'm not saying I am a saint and I would be the first to admit it.
reminding me who I am beyond just being a wife and mother. They're a temporary escape, a chance to feel alive and desired again, but they don't change my commitment to my family.
if we see these 2 posts then it just makes clear what will be vivians inevitable choice. a way out once vivian comes to terms with her temptations. feels like we are badgering you with questions from different sides.... ty for patiently replying and posting your views and thoughts.I believe Vivian will eventually be honest with herself, stop rationalizing, and make a peace with her inner temptations. That was what I did and how I would do if I were in her shoes somehow.
I believe that a person cannot judge others, but I am 100% sure that none of the men present here would want to live with such a wife. There is a certain line, having crossed which a woman changes and all subsequent conversations about love and happiness are an excuse for her own whoredom. And after that, she will not change, she will cheat more and more until she gets caught, this can happen right away or maybe in years, but it will happen.
Well, and just the attitude towards her beloved husband of a wife who fucks with others, sucks them and then comes and looking with loving eyes kisses her husband on the lips. And do not forget - the most important thing is that the husband does not know, otherwise an understanding and loving husband will then throw his beloved wife out into the cold with her bare ass ...
And do not forget that an amorous lady from Turkey can with a high probability turn out to be a fat man over 40 from Pennsylvania ...
Well, these are just thoughts out loud ...
senior and EvliDekolteliAnne think we should take a step back before this escalates ...... we are all free to express our views, lets just do it in a mindful way.Wow, buddy, you really swung for the fences with that one! I didn’t realize my game review was going to spark a full-on soap opera script about my life—or a wild guess that I’m secretly a "fat man from Pennsylvania." I mean, points for creativity, but I'm pretty sure my Turkish coffee addiction and mom-life stretch marks confirm I'm exactly who I say I am. Let’s unpack this without the melodrama, shall we?
First off, I get it... My take on Vivian’s spicy choices and my own life experiences might ruffle feathers. Not everyone's ready to sip the tea of nuance when it comes to love, sex, and marriage. But let's be real: throwing around words like "whoredom" and spinning tales of me smooching my husband with some scandalous intent? That’s not a hot take, it's a hot mess. You’re painting me as some villain in a bad rom-com, but life's a bit more complex than "cheater bad, loyal good."
Here's the deal. I shared my perspective because this forum's about diving deep into stories like Vivian’s, not clutching pearls over someone's personal choices. My affairs? They're not a middle finger to my husband or my marriage. They're a piece of my story, born out of loneliness, cultural pressures, and a marriage that's hit some rough patches after 15 years. In Turkey, divorce isn't just a signature, it’s a social and legal gauntlet, especially for a mom trying to keep her kid's world stable. I’m not here to be a saint or a sinner, I'm just human, navigating a messy, beautiful life. Sound familiar to anyone else out there? ♀
Your "100% sure" claim that no man would want a wife like me? Oof, that's a bold bet! I'd wager plenty of folks, men and women alike, value honesty, complexity, and love over rigid rules about what a "good spouse" looks like. My husband and I? We're a work in progress, not a courtroom drama. And no, I'm not "doomed" to some inevitable caught-in-the-act moment like a B-movie plot twist. Life's not that predictable, my friend.
As for your colorful imagery about me "kissing my husband with loving eyes" after, uh, extracurriculars? You're trying to stir the pot, but I'll just stir it back with a laugh. I'm a mom, a wife, and a woman who's owned her choices, good, bad, and spicy. If that makes you clutch your keyboard in horror, that's cool, but maybe stick to commenting on Vivian's backyard scene instead of scripting my downfall.