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Hattyrulz

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Oh my dear little hatty i am being sincere in my statements. you see for me this forum has been about the VN . for some i think it hits home closer to real life. you see i have always been a dominate type man but the ntr aspect can also be wild and exciting . im not debating whether what vivian or hutchy is doing is right or not in real life.. just in the VN .. the real world is much different and i wont engage in those debates unless provoked .. as for VN's the list i gave in the past are all mostly harem VN's that i like the most. problem is they take so long to update i end up playing the old versions over an over lol ..
i agree about the real-world aspect of things but you will never convince me to join the duke side however convincing as it maybe. i bet you are are twirling your imaginary villain moustache after posting this comment. :ROFLMAO: . don't remember your list of vns.... i do remember a joke post but dont think there were any vns.
 
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TheDuke9999

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i agree about the real-world aspect of things but you will never convince me to join the duke side however convincing as it maybe. i bet you are are twirling your imaginary villain moustache after posting this comment. :ROFLMAO: . don't remember your list of vns.... i do remember a joke post but dont think there were any vns.
lol now that was funny i like that my list is ... 1. WIAB 2. SG 3. my bully is my lover 4. leap of faith 5. the falling reloaded(abandoned) 6. companions of darkness 7. deliverance 8. sicae 9. the nature of magic 10. aura colors 11. single again 12. chasing sunsets 13. my new memories 14. my new family 15. lost and found 16. making memories 17. a moment of bliss, a petal among thorns and over the moon 18. the fiery scion
 
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Oh my dear little hatty i am being sincere in my statements. you see for me this forum has been about the VN . for some i think it hits home closer to real life. you see i have always been a dominate type man but the ntr aspect can also be wild and exciting . im not debating whether what vivian or hutchy is doing is right or not in real life.. just in the VN .. the real world is much different and i wont engage in those debates unless provoked .. as for VN's the list i gave in the past are all mostly harem VN's that i like the most. problem is they take so long to update i end up playing the old versions over an over lol ..
No surprise there. No serious or real life NTR NTS fetishist rejoices in calling women hoes (even in a joking sense) - those guys normally tend to hold on to idealistic images of women and gain erotic tension from that contrast. Nothing more sweetly cruel than supposed purity leaving and disappointing the faithful and turning the knive in his heart (or being "corrupted"). Harem on the other hand helds a robust conviction of female needs and wants without illusions.
 

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lol now that was funny i like that my list is ... 1. WIAB 2. SG 3. my bully is my lover 4. leap of faith 5. the falling reloaded(abandoned) 6. companions of darkness 7. deliverance 8. sicae 9. the nature of magic 10. aura colors 11. single again 12. chasing sunsets 13. my new memories 14. my new family 15. lost and found 16. making memories 17. a moment of bliss, a petal among thorns and over the moon 18. the fiery scion
MNF isn't my style (in terms of visuals), but I recently played My New Memories and My New Memories: The Beginning and really enjoyed them. Although I've not played everything in your list, it feels like MHB is a bit of an outsider there in terms of theme?
 

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MNF isn't my style (in terms of visuals), but I recently played My New Memories and My New Memories: The Beginning and really enjoyed them. Although I've not played everything in your list, it feels like MHB is a bit of an outsider there in terms of theme?
well there is also a list for nts/ntr VN's but its harder with them cause they all sort meld together because well the plot is the same in most of them.. thats why MHB got me a little because it took the basic nts/ntr ways and went off the chains with it . i like the different approach very nice
 

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I've been saying it from the start – no need to dive too deep into it (the psychological stuff). It is what it is, just take what life gives us.
Any overly deep analysis is inevitably shaped by our own experiences, knowledge, expectations, and cultural background. Given the highly homogeneous group we're part of, we’re only familiar with one side of the situation.

Typical men’s expectations are like this – they themselves want to be alpha males (superfuckers), while women are supposed to smell nice and wait patiently for their man to come home. A woman who enjoys sex and changes partners as often as the typical 'alpha male' is instantly labeled a slut.
 
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Chaoticjustice

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Can you give some titles ?
there's one that jumps to mind at the moment now its more jav based but its called the video my wife was hiding... ex boyfriend cuckolding records - and im gonna be completely straight with you...... its really fucking intense haha

edit: you think hutch gets it bad ..... my god this blows hutch out of the water haha
 
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xert13

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I've been saying it from the start – no need to dive too deep into it (the psychological stuff). It is what it is, just take what life gives us.
Any overly deep analysis is inevitably shaped by our own experiences, knowledge, expectations, and cultural background. Given the highly homogeneous group we're part of, we’re only familiar with one side of the situation.

Typical men’s expectations are like this – they themselves want to be alpha males (superfuckers), while women are supposed to smell nice and wait patiently for their man to come home. A woman who enjoys sex and changes partners as often as the typical 'alpha male' is instantly labeled a slut.
Who you calling a homogeneous?!?
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Nossa, cara, você arrasou mesmo com essa! Não imagino que minha análise do jogo iria gerar um roteiro de novela completa sobre a minha vida, ou um palpite de que eu sou secretamente um "gordinho da Pensilvânia". Quer dizer, pontos pela criatividade, mas tenho quase certeza de que meu vício em café turco e as estrias da vida de mãe confirmam que sou exatamente quem digo que sou. Vamos destrinchar isso sem melodrama, certo?

Em primeiro lugar, eu entendo... Minha opinião sobre as escolhas picantes de Vivian e minhas próprias experiências de vida podem causar resultados satisfatórios. Nem todo mundo está pronto para saborear o chá das nuances quando se trata de amor, sexo e casamento. Mas sejamos realistas: usar palavras como "prostituição" e inventar histórias de mim beijando meu marido com alguma intenção escandalosa? Isso não é uma opinião quente, é uma bagunça. Você está me pintando como uma vila de comédia romântica ruim, mas a vida é um pouco mais complexa do que "traidor é ruim, leal é bom".

A questão é a seguinte. Compartilhei minha perspectiva porque este fórum é para mergulhar fundo em histórias como a da Vivian, não para se apegar às escolhas pessoais de alguém. Meus casos extraconjugais? Eles não são um dedo do meio para o meu marido ou para o meu casamento. São parte da minha história, nascidos da solidão, da pressão cultural e de um casamento que passou por momentos difíceis depois de 15 anos. Na Turquia, o pedido não é apenas uma assinatura, é um desafio social e legal, especialmente para uma mãe que tenta manter o mundo do filho estável. Não estou aqui para ser santo ou pecadora, sou apenas humano, navegando por uma vida linda e confusa. Parece familiar para mais alguém? ‍♀

Sua afirmação "100% certa" de que nenhum homem desejaria uma esposa como eu? Nossa, que aposta ousada! Eu apostaria que muitas pessoas, homens e mulheres, valorizassem a honestidade, a complexidade e o amor acima das regras sobre como devem ser um "bom parceiro". Meu marido e eu? Somos uma obra em andamento, não um drama de tribunal. E não, não estou "condenado" a um momento revelado de flagrante, como uma reviravolta na trama de um filme B. A vida não é tão previsível assim, meu amigo.

Quanto à sua imagem colorida de mim "beijando meu marido com olhos amorosos" depois de, hum, atividades extracurriculares? Você está tentando provocar uma situação, mas eu vou reagir com uma risada. Sou mãe, esposa e uma mulher que escolheu suas escolhas, boas, ruínas e picantes. Se isso te faz apertar o teclado de terror, tudo bem, mas talvez seja melhor se concentrar em comentar a cena do quintal da Vivian em vez de escrever o roteiro da minha queda.
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As pessoas aqui são extremamente críticas, e há algo no mínimo irônico nisso. Elas estão te julgando em um tópico de jogo sobre trapaça, para o qual trapaça é um elemento erótico. É o que Nietzsche diz: "Pessoas boas têm coisas repulsivas. A coisa menos repulsiva é o mal que existe nelas."
As pessoas aqui querem pregar a boa virtude enquanto são uma contradição ambulante.
Yeah! What he said! Huh?
 

Xocopin

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What I think about the game is what I've already said, it's a character study about contradictions. Vivian is an antithesis in her lifestyle and image, she's a housewife, a teacher, intelligent, a good wife and mother, but she's voluptuous, has tattoos, dresses provocatively, has short hair, all of which would be considered something of a dumb slut and on the fringes of society. She loves her family and her husband truly, I'm sure of that, but she also has desires and fetishes that her good wife lifestyle limits her. The husband also lives a contradiction, but at the end of the update he was on the way to better understanding his feelings and those of his wife, he understood this contradictory part, and I think the wife still doesn't fully understand or hasn't accepted it yet. The husband was in conflict, he still loves his wife, I think he was more upset that she was trying to hide what she did from him than the betrayal itself, and making many excuses, but he also understood that this was because she was also kind of betraying herself, not wanting to accept what he found out. He reconciled well in the end, just wanting his wife to come back to him, for them to keep the love they have, and for her to fulfill her desires without guilt.

I believe that where the game ended, it was more of an understanding of the situation on the husband's part. And in the next one it will probably go in a direction more of Vivian understanding and accepting herself.

I like the Boss's dialogues, he talks a lot about interests, that people seek their own interests and satisfactions. He knew from the beginning about the couple's plans to keep the husband's job, but they wanted to put on a veneer of virtue, which was more of an excuse and denial on Vivian's part about the reality of the situation and not to diminish her husband, where the biggest mistake would be her trying to put on this veneer of good virtue, not helping her husband. And the husband shows that he doesn't like this attitude.
 

Xocopin

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Xocopin - in english please, because a moderator will come and delete you
Sorry
Well, I had a quick look at the psychological questions/dilemmas that are discussed here. It took a good while. I made a summary and included my personal point of view and thougts as I promised:

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Please feel free to ask if I skipped any juicy dilemmas or spicy psychological questions... :sneaky:
Perfect interpretation of the work, that's exactly what the game is. This game in short is a story of a couple confronting contradictions and dilemmas in their lives as what is outside and confronting the same within themselves, and the two things talk dialectically. When you get caught up in moralism you lose the nuances of being human, and being human is not a straight line.
 
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Xocopin

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Wow, buddy, you really swung for the fences with that one! I didn't realize my game review was going to spark a full-on soap opera script about my life, or a wild guess that I’m secretly a "fat man from Pennsylvania." I mean, points for creativity, but I'm pretty sure my Turkish coffee addiction and mom-life stretch marks confirm I'm exactly who I say I am. Let’s unpack this without the melodrama, shall we?

First off, I get it... My take on Vivian’s spicy choices and my own life experiences might ruffle feathers. Not everyone's ready to sip the tea of nuance when it comes to love, sex, and marriage. But let's be real: throwing around words like "whoredom" and spinning tales of me smooching my husband with some scandalous intent? That’s not a hot take, it's a hot mess. You’re painting me as some villain in a bad rom-com, but life's a bit more complex than "cheater bad, loyal good."

Here's the deal. I shared my perspective because this forum's about diving deep into stories like Vivian’s, not clutching pearls over someone's personal choices. My affairs? They're not a middle finger to my husband or my marriage. They're a piece of my story, born out of loneliness, cultural pressures, and a marriage that's hit some rough patches after 15 years. In Turkey, divorce isn't just a signature, it’s a social and legal gauntlet, especially for a mom trying to keep her kid's world stable. I’m not here to be a saint or a sinner, I'm just human, navigating a messy, beautiful life. Sound familiar to anyone else out there? ‍♀

Your "100% sure" claim that no man would want a wife like me? Oof, that's a bold bet! I'd wager plenty of folks, men and women alike, value honesty, complexity, and love over rigid rules about what a "good spouse" looks like. My husband and I? We're a work in progress, not a courtroom drama. And no, I'm not "doomed" to some inevitable caught-in-the-act moment like a B-movie plot twist. Life's not that predictable, my friend.

As for your colorful imagery about me "kissing my husband with loving eyes" after, uh, extracurriculars? You're trying to stir the pot, but I'll just stir it back with a laugh. I'm a mom, a wife, and a woman who's owned her choices, good, bad, and spicy. If that makes you clutch your keyboard in horror, that's cool, but maybe stick to commenting on Vivian's backyard scene instead of scripting my downfall.
People here are extremely critical, and there is something at least ironic about that. They are judging in a game thread about cheating, as cheating is an erotic element. This is what Nietzsche says: "Good people have repulsive things. The least repulsive thing is the evil that exists in them."
People here want to preach good virtue while being a walking contradiction.
 

Xocopin

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Yeah! What he said! Huh?
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Sorry, English is not my native language, and I'm at the beginning of my English studies, so I use the browser's translator as support, and when posting it was partly in Portuguese. But I already deleted and reposted my answers.
 

Chaoticjustice

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I think he was more upset that she was trying to hide what she did from him than the betrayal itself, and making many excuses, but he also understood that this was because she was also kind of betraying herself, not wanting to accept what he found out. He reconciled well in the end, just wanting his wife to come back to him, for them to keep the love they have, and for her to fulfill her desires without guilt.
Some good points there and with the text I quoted the line about her being a ghost outside her body or something like that plays into that instead of being like you know what I fucked up il hold my hands up I'm in the wrong here and apologising

Also I always find it interesting in these games with the wife's desires and fetishes they never show the wife trying to act on these with the husband or partner it always just seems to go the route of he won't want to or he won't do it

Then the FMC eventually decides to do these with someone else

Which is where it all boils down to communication, now this might be naive of me to think but I do often think in a marriage or long term relationship if one party is bored or wants to try new things the chances are the other party likely feels the same way - obviously this is before either party cheats if it gets that far it is
 
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