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Xocopin

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Yeah! What he said! Huh?
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Sorry, English is not my native language, and I'm at the beginning of my English studies, so I use the browser's translator as support, and when posting it was partly in Portuguese. But I already deleted and reposted my answers.
 

Chaoticjustice

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I think he was more upset that she was trying to hide what she did from him than the betrayal itself, and making many excuses, but he also understood that this was because she was also kind of betraying herself, not wanting to accept what he found out. He reconciled well in the end, just wanting his wife to come back to him, for them to keep the love they have, and for her to fulfill her desires without guilt.
Some good points there and with the text I quoted the line about her being a ghost outside her body or something like that plays into that instead of being like you know what I fucked up il hold my hands up I'm in the wrong here and apologising

Also I always find it interesting in these games with the wife's desires and fetishes they never show the wife trying to act on these with the husband or partner it always just seems to go the route of he won't want to or he won't do it

Then the FMC eventually decides to do these with someone else

Which is where it all boils down to communication, now this might be naive of me to think but I do often think in a marriage or long term relationship if one party is bored or wants to try new things the chances are the other party likely feels the same way - obviously this is before either party cheats if it gets that far it is
 
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Some good points there and with the text I quoted the line about her being a ghost outside her body or something like that plays into that instead of being like you know what I fucked up il hold my hands up I'm in the wrong here and apologising

Also I always find it interesting in these games with the wife's desires and fetishes they never show the wife trying to act on these with the husband or partner it always just seems to go the route of he won't want to or he won't do it

Then the FMC eventually decides to do these with someone else

Which is where it all boils down to communication, now this might be naive of me to think but I do often think in a marriage or long term relationship if one party is bored or wants to try new things the chances are the other party likely feels the same way - obviously this is before either party cheats if it gets that far it is

I believe that in most marriages, people love the perception that the other person has made of them, or even enter into it loving another ideal that they have projected onto their spouse. They never show 100%, and so are never loved for their entirety. And depending on the culture, as in the comments above, or even in social niches, you cannot afford to expose your sexuality or your entire being, which can be dangerous to your own material security in every sense and emotionally.
 

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I believe that in most marriages, people love the perception that the other person has made of them, or even enter into it loving another ideal that they have projected onto their spouse. They never show 100%, and so are never loved for their entirety. And depending on the culture, as in the comments above, or even in social niches, you cannot afford to expose your sexuality or your entire being, which can be dangerous to your own material security in every sense and emotionally.
I would agree with that 100%

I actually seen a really good line in another game about a married couple where the husband said to the wife that they where too respectful of eachother in there relationship to just Fuck...so essentially meaning it's all about making love and it all has to be planned and go 100% as planned etc and I agree that sounds boring as fuck haha

Like spice it up be spontaneous sometimes you know haha il use hutch and Vivian as an example - hutch comes home from work Vivian's in the kitchen making dinner ... Throw caution to the wind bend her over that worktop and rail her right there in the kitchen it's simple things like that which can make a world of difference especially when a couples sex life has become stagnant
 

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The discussion has shifted Vivians behaviour from a totallly instrumental and transactional use of sex towards a legitimate cure for alleged sexual frustration in her marriage. Congratulations! A reaction to economic blackmail is reinterpreted as sexual liberation and exploration.
We can try it that way, it's just remarkable.
 
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the way i see this VN is vivian has been driving the car thru the entire marriage. hutch has been a good father an husband thru it all but in essence hutch has been a paycheck for the family to survive. vivian has been doing what society told her to do an thats maintain house an family with a part time job. then she cheats for whatever her reasons are. i have said before an will again i dont think its the fact she cheated but the manner in which she did it. its one thing to know it , it is another to be forced witness it and hear it. now its at a dangerous point.. will repressed rage make hutch do something very bad to get even or will he lay down an be a good little cuck . at the moment this VN could so many different directions its crazy .. hmmmm which way will it go i wonder.
 

Xocopin

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I would agree with that 100%

I actually seen a really good line in another game about a married couple where the husband said to the wife that they where too respectful of eachother in there relationship to just Fuck...so essentially meaning it's all about making love and it all has to be planned and go 100% as planned etc and I agree that sounds boring as fuck haha

Like spice it up be spontaneous sometimes you know haha il use hutch and Vivian as an example - hutch comes home from work Vivian's in the kitchen making dinner ... Throw caution to the wind bend her over that worktop and rail her right there in the kitchen it's simple things like that which can make a world of difference especially when a couples sex life has become stagnant

I agree, but I think that at this point the relationship will gradually cool down. The person doesn't even realize it, they get used to the routine. The person's subconscious is even alert, but they don't realize it. That's why there has to be communication, as you said. I believe that in most cultures marriage means becoming one flesh, and I believe that this flesh will rot when you are not connected enough.
 

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I agree, but I think that at this point the relationship will gradually cool down. The person doesn't even realize it, they get used to the routine. The person's subconscious is even alert, but they don't realize it. That's why there has to be communication, as you said. I believe that in most cultures marriage means becoming one flesh, and I believe that this flesh will rot when you are not connected enough.
are we talking about the real world or the VN ? just wondering?
 

Xocopin

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the way i see this VN is vivian has been driving the car thru the entire marriage. hutch has been a good father an husband thru it all but in essence hutch has been a paycheck for the family to survive. vivian has been doing what society told her to do an thats maintain house an family with a part time job. then she cheats for whatever her reasons are. i have said before an will again i dont think its the fact she cheated but the manner in which she did it. its one thing to know it , it is another to be forced witness it and hear it. now its at a dangerous point.. will repressed rage make hutch do something very bad to get even or will he lay down an be a good little cuck . at the moment this VN could so many different directions its crazy .. hmmmm which way will it go i wonder.
Yes, it kind of becomes a relationship where the wife becomes the husband's mother and the husband the wife's father, a provider, then the sexual relationship cools down because of these roles they have placed themselves into without realizing it.
 

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Doesn't the developer have a discord page? Patreon or something? Does he do everything for free?

I'm just curious.
 

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I believe that in most marriages, people love the perception that the other person has made of them, or even enter into it loving another ideal that they have projected onto their spouse. They never show 100%, and so are never loved for their entirety. And depending on the culture, as in the comments above, or even in social niches, you cannot afford to expose your sexuality or your entire being, which can be dangerous to your own material security in every sense and emotionally.
I gave statistics in which Portugal is in first place in divorces in Europe - something like over 93%
 

Sparta158

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I gave statistics in which Portugal is in first place in divorces in Europe - something like over 93%
These are distorted figures for which there were specific reasons. These high values were caused by the low number of marriages, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic, as fewer weddings increase the relative divorce rate. After that, it leveled off again at around 60%.
Nevertheless, the rate is high. What is more interesting, however, is what the main factors are in Western liberal countries. The high rate is mainly due to liberal divorce laws, economic independence (especially for women) and an increasingly secular society. In Portugal, amicable divorces are possible without long waiting periods, which facilitates the process. Hire-and-fire mentality. Since 2008, amicable divorce is possible without giving reasons if both parties agree.
 
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DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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Well, I had a quick look at the psychological questions/dilemmas that are discussed here. It took a good while. I made a summary and included my personal point of view and thougts as I promised:

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Please feel free to ask if I skipped any juicy dilemmas or spicy psychological questions... :sneaky:
ok, just curious, no judging here, so i have to ask, did you cheat on him for guys with bigger dicks or a bbc or was it strictly to be dominated by an alpha male?
 
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Sparta158

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In California since around 1970, in Germany mid 70ies.
That's true, but it's more complicated. On paper it was more liberal, but society wasn't quite there yet. In 1970, the number of economically dependent women was higher. Religion and the church also still had a strong influence. The overall social pressure was too high. It's similar to what Evlidekoltelianne described about turkish society.
It wasn't until the 1990s that things slowly began to change. One of the most important laws in Germany was passed in 1997!Marital rape became a criminal offense. I think that was the important turning point. Why it was changed so late is beyond me.
California is a different benchmark. It is one of the most progressive states in the world.
 

DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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And no, it wasn't for "a bbc or bigger dicks".
Well thanks for being honest even though you just destroyed about 80% of the porn devs games main trope for cheating and NTR :ROFLMAO:
Not sure if you have played “Her Desire” game but atleast this game the hot mom Amber we get to control, husband has a big dick but we can control her to cheat with who we want,even best friend, son, daughter, old, young, lesbians, swingers cause he’s either on business trips or out, oh and he also has a cuck fetish and likes to hear about her adventures
 
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