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ChO_fr

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what was the point on this "update"?

really?
The point was to finally put an end to the 5th Chapter of this KN, and bring it to the conclusion CG had first envisioned for it.
Obviously, he tried to bite more than he could chew when he planned for this chapter.
He had to resort to these few latest "DLC" updates over the last couple of months, to bring it where he wanted.
 
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I'm interested in supporting your game, on Subscribestar, but 10 USD/month is a bit too steep for my poor ass. Are there any other options, or have you considered making a cheaper tier?
 

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Yes, she was teasing him a lot about Rob. Whether it's him or Samuel, it doesn't matter, both of them have something that she really likes about the fantasies she researches:devilish:
 
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SymbioticLife

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I'm interested in supporting your game, on Subscribestar, but 10 USD/month is a bit too steep for my poor ass. Are there any other options, or have you considered making a cheaper tier?
There's a token of appreciation tier on Patreon. Think it's 1.50

I Hope so....but IT will be Rob i guess. Vi was teasing Eric with Rob in the DLC.
That wasn't what I was talking about, I was answering Enlights comment about feeling sorry for a black guy or "BBC character" as he put it.
 

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There's a token of appreciation tier on Patreon. Think it's 1.50


That wasn't what I was talking about, I was answering Enlights comment about feeling sorry for a black guy or "BBC character" as he put it.
Then i did Not Unterstand your comment. I played 2 Times the complete Game.But dont remember any hint about what you Said.
 

Artist271

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Damn, there's so much swinging, NTR, NTS, etc AI trash surfaced on this site in recent times. So much of the same looking ~9999th rate garbage.
Slop apocalypse.
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Incredibly input you've given us, but you fail to take into account an easy solution ,so you avoid complaining.

This site has a great feature, not sure if you've heard about it, but it's called "exclude tags". and that's how you'll stop seeing so much of what you complain. You're welcome.
 

SymbioticLife

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Then i did Not Unterstand your comment. I played 2 Times the complete Game.But dont remember any hint about what you Said.
Like I said I don't think almost anyone's noticed. It was something I had noticed and asked CG when I joined the proofreading team, and even the other proofreaders hadnt really picked up on it somehow (even though it seemed obvious to me).
 
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Like I said I don't think almost anyone's noticed. It was something I had noticed and asked CG when I joined the proofreading team, and even the other proofreaders hadnt really picked up on it somehow (even though it seemed obvious to me).
If the other proofreaders did Not noticed the hint. Then i deffently also Not. Still wondering. But for Ch6 my Personal best scene should be Meeting with Bruce, Like CG mentioned already.
 

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what was the point on this "update"?

really?
It seems it only "softens" Anya's scene (mainly by adding stuff afterward) and the afterparty scene. I might get a bit of hate for this since I've already criticized the game lately, but I'm not a big fan of the new direction for Anya. Dev already changed the scene once, but it seems it wasn't enough, she needed to be even more "loyal" toward the MC. Those new dialogues show that Anya is feeling as if she "betrayed him" and acted badly (just because she filmed a bj and let a guy touch her ass... while Eric: 1.has a girlfriend 2.is active sexually with other girls 3.is her brother and didn't act as if they were together. Ridiculous). The game looks more and more like a power-fantasy centered on the mc. I'm also questioning if the dev will just change his story each time anything sensitive is brought up and some people complain.
Well that's just how it is, all that said I'll try to be less negative in the future, as I'm still enjoying the game overall even if I'm not as enthousiastic as in the past. I just hope this time the direction is set and we won't have that kind of retropedaling anymore.
 

SymbioticLife

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It seems it only "softens" Anya's scene (mainly by adding stuff afterward) and the afterparty scene. I might get a bit of hate for this since I've already criticized the game lately, but I'm not a big fan of the new direction for Anya. Dev already changed the scene once, but it seems it wasn't enough, she needed to be even more "loyal" toward the MC. Those new dialogues show that Anya is feeling as if she "betrayed him" and acted badly (just because she filmed a bj and let a guy touch her ass... while Eric: 1.has a girlfriend 2.is active sexually with other girls 3.is her brother and didn't act as if they were together. Ridiculous). The game looks more and more like a power-fantasy centered on the mc. I'm also questioning if the dev will just change his story each time anything sensitive is brought up and some people complain.
Well that's just how it is, all that said I'll try to be less negative in the future, as I'm still enjoying the game overall even if I'm not as enthousiastic as in the past. I just hope this time the direction is set and we won't have that kind of retropedaling anymore.
I feel like a broken record reiterating this, but the direction wasn't changed. Even in the dev chat which I saw retroactively after it was clear the plan from the get go was to have Anya express regret afterwards. All that changed is he just added it on to the end of the scene too to clarify instead of waiting until we pick up that thread in chapter 6. Yeah, the game is a bit of a power fantasy in some ways, it's meant to be a feels good porn romp (Although I'd note, even if Anya didn't have feelings for Eric, all that would change is the power fantasy would be for Rob instead, it'd still be an absurd power fantasy, and indeed Rob still gets his power fantasy too).

You're allowed to criticize, if I'm being 100% honest though, at this point the game is far too big for CG to be listening much to this threads criticisms. Ultimately, nothing has changed about the direction and most certainly nothing has changed regarding Anya's direction. I recommend going through Anya's dialogues from chapter 0 all the way through to chapter 5 again if you don't believe me. Even the last time she had a run in with Rob (chapter 3 going into chapter 4) she also came back home to sulk and think about Eric. It's fine to not like that direction, but it's been the same since the start.

I do agree with you Anya has nothing to really feel guilty about! And I've said this before it's not about "logic" it's about her feelings. She's not guilty because she did something actually morally wrong, she's feeling guilty because she wanted to impress Eric and take back some of his attention from Vi and found herself in a very different predicament at the end of the night. It's a perfectly human thing to feel guilty about things that were not actually "wrong" or borne out of any ill intent. Anya is simply dealing with remorse because of what she wanted to happen instead, not because of an actual fault.
 
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I'm legit curious how the author is doing his animations. They're better than most AI art animations I've seen. Also how he manages to maintain art consistency while doing small variations on the same character (eg adjusting facial expressions and posture).
 

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I'm legit curious how the author is doing his animations. They're better than most AI art animations I've seen. Also how he manages to maintain art consistency while doing small variations on the same character (eg adjusting facial expressions and posture).
So he works with two different animators, they are not AI animations. I'm not going to go into all the methods on how he does expressions and posture changes because it's too big a write up for a thread like this (although if you're into AI I suggest looking up inpaint and controlnets) but one of the animators is a guy we work with on SoA too (and he also has started helping with Moonripple as well, so look out for that). He's getting better and better and we all love working with the guy.
 
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So he works with two different animators, they are not AI animations. I'm not going to go into all the methods on how we do expressions and posture changes because it's too big a write up for a thread like this (although if you're into AI I suggest looking up inpaint and controlnets) but one of the animators is a guy we work with on SoA too (and he also has started helping with Moonripple as well, so look out for that). He's getting better and better and we all love working with the guy.
Familiar with inpaint and controlnets, though I've found getting ip-adapter to work with automatic1111 to be... difficult.

It makes sense that it's actually getting animated by a guy. They are, frankly, far too good for AI to be making them. Answers the question. Thanks.
 
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