VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [After Party v2] [CircleGames]

[LUISIL]

Oh Wow! This VN is Aaaaaamazing...How did I not came across with this"game"earlier ???
Art is astonishing so much better than 3D, every single one of the characters engaging, Story is SO damn Gooood, MC and FMC are awesome. My new Favorite no doubt about it. I'll be back. Can't wait til 31st.

 

[kikomascado]

The point is that it is correct that times are factually increasing between game chapters, as most games do until they reach 6 months. But lots here will jump to the devs defence with reasons, as seen already, Patreons are not paying for free comics, they want the game, this is why as usual games start with enthusiasm then drop off, as I said already the game is at a crossroads.

Since you're saying "as seen already" then you already saw that each chapter, despite having longer development time, had a higher image to time ratio, right?
Also, the comic was as free as the game updates, and only patrons can say what they want, but I see very little complaints here, yours being one of the few ones.
Like I said, I'd prefer not having the comic at all, but it is what it is.

 

[rob_trowy_97]

had a higher image to time ratio

Where you guys take this info?

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[kikomascado]

Where you guys take this info?

From the game files.

 

[peteraw]

Since you're saying "as seen already" then you already saw that each chapter, despite having longer development time, had a higher image to time ratio, right?
Also, the comic was as free as the game updates, and only patrons can say what they want, but I see very little complaints here, yours being one of the few ones.
Like I said, I'd prefer not having the comic at all, but it is what it is.

Everyone loves an argument here, despite facts in your face, there are plenty of observations and complaints but they get deleted.
Mine is an observation of fact, but as i have said repeatably here ;" followers love to sour the thread ".
Judge the game on it's end of month release, see if it was worth the wait.

 

[What's Up Doc?]

updating the timeline with the estimated release date:

chapter 1 - released on june 6
chapter 2 - released on july 1 (25 days after chapter 1)
chapter 3 - released on august 20 (50 days after chapter 2)
chapter 4 - released on october 24 (65 days after chapter 3)
chapter 5 - if it releases on january 31st (99 days after chapter 4)

Even though we are still very early in the game, with the money he is making so fast and increase in waiting times between updates in direct proportion to this, is not a good sign. The next update intervals will reach 6-8-10 months very soon. It's called power poisoning and very few people can handle it. Mark my words.

 

[kikomascado]

I get complaints after playing the game, but complaining before release when the dev never lied about release dates is crazy.
Some games I play that takes more than 6 months each release, but what matters is if said release have enough content to make up for the waiting.

 

[SymbioticLife]

Pls make the game NTR and raceplay only so these whiners can finally go away.

But the irony is youre also whining in that capacity, begging to change the game into something it is not. There's no debate on the topic CG has already talked about his intentions earlier in the thread, interracial is a theme but not the main theme and the primary relationship isnt NTR. You can never make everyone happy but thats just how it is, there will be those who want none of that and those who want more of it.

On the topic of the comic... my understanding was that it was in part made to please the hard NTR fans, giving them an experience more in line with their preferences. Given that they never seem to be particularly happy anyway I think the lesson here might be to not give in to any begging, and for CG to continue to do his own thing.

 

[SymbioticLife]

Even though we are still very early in the game, with the money he is making so fast and increase in waiting times between updates in direct proportion to this, is not a good sign. The next update intervals will reach 6-8-10 months very soon. It's called power poisoning and very few people can handle it. Mark my words.

Not all updates are made equal, the editing, quality control and standards are from what I have seen/heard yet again risen with this update. There are those will still be unhappy I am sure, but comparing the length of time it took to produce say chapter 2 with it's fairly straight forward renders and editing to what takes place in chapter 5 is not a remotely fair comparison. Complex multi character scenes, high quality static backgrounds, animations and establishing consistent outfits across a large number of characters all add time to these sorts of projects, the payoff will be worth it for most I think.

Now I know some here do not care about quality as a metric, given the games they enjoy and that's fine. Some just want something quick and dirty to fap to. But for those who enjoy sleek design I certainly think theyll understand that waiting a bit longer is worth it.

 

[rob_trowy_97]

Given that they never seem to be particularly happy anyway I think the lesson here might be to not give in to any begging, and for CG to continue to do his own thing.

I'm pretty sure NTR fans didn't specifically ask for NTR comics, though I do agree with the overall sentiment.

 

[rob_trowy_97]

Besides, let's be frank here - the comic has little of what makes a good NTR product.

 

[idkmanerally]

Not all updates are made equal, the editing, quality control and standards are from what I have seen/heard yet again risen with this update. There are those will still be unhappy I am sure, but comparing the length of time it took to produce say chapter 2 with it's fairly straight forward renders and editing to what takes place in chapter 5 is not a remotely fair comparison. Complex multi character scenes, high quality static backgrounds, animations and establishing consistent outfits across a large number of characters all add time to these sorts of projects, the payoff will be worth it for most I think.

it comes down to "was it worth it?"

if the dev spends an extra month on an extremely expensive (in terms of development time) group dance scene... well, that dance scene better be pretty amazing, you know? because otherwise... it was a waste.

AI is notoriously bad at handling certain types of scenes, like cramming multiple people into a single scene. a smart dev might actually choose to write a story that plays to the AI's strengths, and focus the story more on 1-on-1 interactions, instead of giant orgies.

Now I know some here do not care about quality as a metric, given the games they enjoy and that's fine. Some just want something quick and dirty to fap to. But for those who enjoy sleek design I certainly think theyll understand that waiting a bit longer is worth it.

quality can't be objectively quantified, it's up to personal taste. development time CAN be measured, and i think it's useful to do so. it is very, very rare for development times to get FASTER as they go, as others have pointed out.

to me, the every-2-months releases felt appropriate for the content that was being released. if the tradeoff for "more group scenes" is "3-4 months development time instead of 2," that's definitely not a good trade in my opinion.

 

[AbyssGames]

it comes down to "was it worth it?"

if the dev spends an extra month on an extremely expensive (in terms of development time) group dance scene... well, that dance scene better be pretty amazing, you know? because otherwise... it was a waste.

AI is notoriously bad at handling certain types of scenes, like cramming multiple people into a since scene. a smart dev might actually choose to write a story that plays to the AI's strengths, and focus the story more on 1-on-1 interactions, instead of giant orgies.



quality can't be objectively quantified, it's up to personal taste. development time CAN be measured, and i think it's useful to do so. it is very, very rare for development times to get FASTER as they go, as others have pointed out.

to me, the every-2-months releases felt appropriate for the content that was being released. if the tradeoff for "more group scenes" is "3-4 months development time instead of 2," that's definitely not a good trade in my opinion.

You're right about AI being bad at handling certain types of scenes or even poses. However, luckily, there are ways around that if you're experienced with it. It mainly involves a lot of photoshop, doing cutouts, manually drawing things, adding shadows, ect... The thing is, most people like group scenes, especially within this genre. Every update is better than the last and seems to be increasing in size. It's hard to find a sweet spot, but Circle has never let us down and I don't expect him to let us down in the future. As a friend, he's incredibly talented with how he makes his scenes and how he presents the images to the audience.
Most people don't care about how they are presented, whether the images make sense, whether they have good quality control and consistency, but there's those who do, including myself.

In the end, for most game developers who use AI, the game is AI. With this game, AI is simply a tool to produce images, everything else is hand-made or hand crafted. Every image is touched up, edited or redrawn.
We're not that far away from the update now and I'm sure it'll blow everyone out of the water!

 

[pts402]

Record
View attachment 3997264
How many can your girl take?

So, who is she ?
We know the original name of the other models, but her, it's a imposible search.

 

[metramaks]

So, who is she ?
We know the original name of the other models, but her, it's a imposible search.

It was posted on Patreon as someone's wife render.

 

[LUISIL]

Carol from the NTR Halloween comic

 

[DoingMeAConcern]

But the irony is youre also whining in that capacity, begging to change the game into something it is not. There's no debate on the topic CG has already talked about his intentions earlier in the thread, interracial is a theme but not the main theme and the primary relationship isnt NTR. You can never make everyone happy but thats just how it is, there will be those who want none of that and those who want more of it.

On the topic of the comic... my understanding was that it was in part made to please the hard NTR fans, giving them an experience more in line with their preferences. Given that they never seem to be particularly happy anyway I think the lesson here might be to not give in to any begging, and for CG to continue to do his own thing.

Yeah yeah keep coping lmao, the dream at the very beginning of the story is very clear about what type ntr will dominate the story. Cry about it.

 

[Deleted member 1364951]

You're right about AI being bad at handling certain types of scenes or even poses. However, luckily, there are ways around that if you're experienced with it. It mainly involves a lot of photoshop, doing cutouts, manually drawing things, adding shadows, ect... The thing is, most people like group scenes, especially within this genre. Every update is better than the last and seems to be increasing in size. It's hard to find a sweet spot, but Circle has never let us down and I don't expect him to let us down in the future. As a friend, he's incredibly talented with how he makes his scenes and how he presents the images to the audience.
Most people don't care about how they are presented, whether the images make sense, whether they have good quality control and consistency, but there's those who do, including myself.

In the end, for most game developers who use AI, the game is AI. With this game, AI is simply a tool to produce images, everything else is hand-made or hand crafted. Every image is touched up, edited or redrawn.
We're not that far away from the update now and I'm sure it'll blow everyone out of the water!

There is something i find quite interesting. You always come to CG’s help, like his comments, promote his stuff etc. Which is great since you consider yourself his friend and friends’ should have each other’s back.

However i haven’t seen CG in your game’s thread, not even once. As the matter of fact he didn’t even react to your first post. So yeah, i guess this tells something about CG’s values.

 

[Rajesh Ram]

Any Laura content in upcoming update?

 

[AbyssGames]

There is something i find quite interesting. You always come to CG’s help, like his comments, promote his stuff etc. Which is great since you consider yourself his friend and friends’ should have each other’s back.

However i haven’t seen CG in your game’s thread, not even once. As the matter of fact he didn’t even react to your first post. So yeah, i guess this tells something about CG’s values.

Just because he isn't posting anything in my game's thread, doesn't mean he's not helping me out or supporting me in different ways. Me and him regulary talk about game development, whether it's MNGF or SoA. I share knowledge with him and he does the same. I'm also more of a degenerate than him, so I spend more time on this site than he does.

Most of our conversations happen in DM, so I get why you might be under the impression he doesn't support me, but he does.

Thanks.