VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [Ch. 4] [CircleGames]

[ImlerithRate]

He's actually been fairly open since the very start that Eric/Vi will be NTS, Eric will be an integral part of a lot of sex scenes, Eric will not be a pushover in bed and that Sai/Ari will lean into more of the NTR fetish. All of this is publicly accessible info (albeit, some is in the discord threads). A lot of people seem to randomly just decide to ignore it and go over the same thing every few pages.

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From the horses mouth. Just so we're clear this was posted publicly on the discord months ago, and reiterated in various ways in various comments since. None of this is things he's kept hidden or obscured, some people just seem intent on ignoring what he says for some reason and it confuses me.

so bro not a cuck. He just loves whores like his girlfriend? Got u. But how does that change the fact that the moments when he'll share this whore with other men would be so much hotter if he himself had flaws when it comes to action? And he'd be well aware of all this himself. As Furina2. said, to who I was referring to in the first place

 

[hlfwaycrks]

Just asking to get your opinion, i will try keeping it as light as possible since the last time this conversation has delved into a mess. In NTS games (Like this one), do you prefer despite sharing aspect, MC has the biggest cock and at the end of the day all females desire him the most compared to other men? Or do you prefer some females prefering other men over MC?

To me when it comes to netorase, i want to see the wife/girlfriend/partner having better sex with the bull. When the sex with the bull is worse than the MC, or when it is just a roleplay, it kills the immersion and ruins any suspension of disbelief. And i am seriously ok with some females thinking MC is the epitomy of a man, hell if it is going to please manwhore wanters i am ok with few characters staying exclusive to MC. But i would love to see few characters picking other men over MC and making it clear. Especially Maki if we are talking about this game.

This was my own ideas, i am not dictating anything. I am not saying dev must follow my words. (Jesus i can't believe i got so paranoid of sharing my idea). Anyway, i would love to hear your opinion on this.

Despite the mentioning of paranoia, I very much appreciate you stating what you did in the last paragraph. Too often it's some variation of a comment like, "Dev, I want to see the game go this way, make it happen!" Especially from NTR crowd.

Since you didn't quote anyone, I'm not sure if you're asking an open-ended question to everyone in the community, or to the dev himself? If the former, I think the aspects of what you're describing line up more with a "submissive" (for lack of a better word) play style in netorase, and quite honestly (although I don't know for sure) it MAY be more in line with the traditional use of the word when it comes to eastern games w/ netorase. I've seen plenty of players that are very much into that and I completely respect it, but I personally have no desire to play games like that.

To me, the depth of the relationship between the MC and LI -- that being the love, respect, trust, and passion they share -- is predicated on many things, one of which absolutely includes their sex life. See, where "sex with the bull is worse than the MC ... it kills the immersion and ruins any suspension of disbelief" for you, to me I see two things there, 1) being sex with other partners shouldn't always be "better" than with the MC, it should be different in that she's fucking other men/bulls, and she's in love with MC and thus makes love to him BUT ALSO gets reclaimed by MC after she's stepped out (which I wouldn't describe as "making love" LOL). 2) being suspension of disbelief and immersion are both ruined, for me, when I'm supposed to fit in the shoes of a guy who isn't confident, in control, and respected. I can't picture myself IRL wanting to be in a relationship where I have to rely on others to satisfy my girlfriend, or where I get humiliated/specifically told that I don't measure up (I mean, if I don't measure up, cool, but that's on me to be better and figure out how to measure up).

Sometimes I feel like what's felt as more "submissive" is more in line with the standard eastern netorase stuff (and at times is closer to NTR, or at least it feels that way to me), whereas the more "dominant" side is closer to like a regular sharing/swinging kind of thing, although each of these have distinctive differences.

So, yeah, I think it just comes from completely different perspectives and walks of life. I hate to boil it down to "sub vs. dom", as apt as that may be. But that's my thoughts

 

[hlfwaycrks]

so bro not a cuck. He just loves whores like his girlfriend? Got u. But how does that change the fact that the moments when he'll share this whore with other men would be so much hotter if he himself had flaws when it comes to action? And he'd be well aware of all this himself. As Furina2. said, to who I was referring to in the first place

"the fact that" -- you shouldn't use terms like this when describing subjective experiences. There's no fact to that at all lol

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

To me, the depth of the relationship between the MC and LI -- that being the love, respect, trust, and passion they share -- is predicated on many things, one of which absolutely includes their sex life. See, where "sex with the bull is worse than the MC ... it kills the immersion and ruins any suspension of disbelief" for you, to me I see two things there, 1) being sex with other partners shouldn't always be "better" than with the MC, it should be different in that she's fucking other men/bulls, and she's in love with MC and thus makes love to him BUT ALSO gets reclaimed by MC after she's stepped out (which I wouldn't describe as "making love" LOL). 2) being suspension of disbelief and immersion are both ruined, for me, when I'm supposed to fit in the shoes of a guy who isn't confident, in control, and respected. I can't picture myself IRL wanting to be in a relationship where I have to rely on others to satisfy my girlfriend, or where I get humiliated/specifically told that I don't measure up (I mean, if I don't measure up, cool, but that's on me to be better and figure out how to measure up).

Yup - I'd echo this 100%.

(Sidebar, the reason that the conversation seems somewhat disjointed is this is a continuation of a multipage debate that was deleted from thread recently)

It's not about sex with the other guy being worse or better (it can be those things!) - it's about it being different. While I get the apprehension over those kinds of games that trip over themselves to make sure MC is the top dog, there's also a strong push from the ntr fandom to make it all about a winner and a loser. It's the sexual world through black and white.

Now, absent any ntr overtones, I'd probably prefer the gf/wife is with someone she enjoys, it doesnt do much if it's seen as a "charity fuck".

 

[SWTiger]

Perhaps then change a little game description on first page (dev notes) by stating that Eric will be in dominant role and there will be no situations where Vi “betrays” him for random sex independently
As for the rest of characters - specify that there is no clarity with them yet or that there may be different paths for them
When it comes to NTR/NTS games, there is always a lot of questions as to how these paths will be developed, in many threads with such games there are often discussions about what exactly format NTR/NTS is implemented in game
Of course not everyone will read this information, but at least some people will find answers to questions at once

 

[ImlerithRate]

"the fact that" -- you shouldn't use terms like this when describing subjective experiences. There's no fact to that at all lol

I'll tell my google translator not to do that next time, LOL

 

[hayrullahdelisi]

To my understanding most agree that MC will be on the dominant side with Vi which is a decision i agree on. To me, women can’t truly love their partner if that partner is not entirely satisfying them. Vi and MC doing sharing thing is just for sexual fantasy.

I think biggest confusion comes from the mystery of how other characters work in NTR. That is where i believe we can have better men than MC with some of the cast. Maki for example, she already loves MC since MC is her ‘housemate’. MC doesn’t have to be the one who makes her see stars, he already has another connection to her and that can be used to discover the depths of NTS.

I simply don’t understand why it has to be one or the other. Can’t it be MC doing dominant sharing with Vi and ‘landlady’ while He is on submissive NTS with Maki and Ari?

 

[ImlerithRate]

Perhaps then change a little game description on first page (dev notes) by stating that Eric will be in dominant role and there will be no situations where Vi “betrays” him for random sex independently
As for the rest of characters - specify that there is no clarity with them yet or that there may be different paths for them
When it comes to NTR/NTS games, there is always a lot of questions as to how these paths will be developed, in many threads with such games there are often discussions about what exactly format NTR/NTS is implemented in game
Of course not everyone will read this information, but at least some people will find answers to questions at once

It would be easier for the fanboys in this thread to gas light anyone who dares to ask anything or discuss a topic these clowns don't agree with. So dont need it.

 

[SymbioticLife]

Thank you for your respectful answer. I was actually looking for forum members’ opinions.
To be honest my more submissive NTS idea is mostly on Maki (or maybe Ari too). They are already carrying dominant characteristics, and it basically pleases the both crowds. Dominant NTS lovers get to keep Vi and the other chicks while submissive NTS side gets to see what they want with 1 or 2 characters.

I see Ari as more of a switch personally, she is submissive to big dick which Eric has. That being said I wouldnt at all be surprised if you do get some of what you're asking for with Maki in particular and Ari to some extent. But I also very much doubt Eric will not sleep with them, in fact I can essentially guarantee that will not be the case.

My personal guess for Ari though is that she will sometimes be submissive or dominant in sexual situations with Eric, while Maki will generally be more dominant. I don't expect either to be singularly focused on Eric though so if that's your concern I wouldnt have it. Eric is AS capable as any other guy in the game per CG's words. That doesnt mean more so or that he's every single girls preference.

But Ari is very, very clearly into Eric, and Eric isnt a pushover, so it would not make sense for her to take a completely dominant role with him all the time. Although I am sure she will have fun playing.

Again, I believe unless one is incredibly picky that they'll likely find a wide range of what theyre looking for here. Hell maybe we even get a Sai pov at some point for the true cuck experience.

 

[SWTiger]

Thank you for your respectful answer. I was actually looking for forum members’ opinions.
To be honest my more submissive NTS idea is mostly on Maki (or maybe Ari too). They are already carrying dominant characteristics, and it basically pleases the both crowds. Dominant NTS lovers get to keep Vi and the other chicks while submissive NTS side gets to see what they want with 1 or 2 characters.

While I mostly agree with your opinion, I myself have previously asked similar questions, but I do not want to enter into another dispute on this topic, because those who communicate with CG personally, follow game actively and communicates in Discord, have their own, in some places quite different opinion. I only offer a temporary solution to the fact that these questions periodically reappear here and sometimes cause a storm of negative comments from both group of fans (I do not know why, by the way, it is just an opinion, not a demand to developer to add or redo something in game)
SymbioticLife has already given an answer quite extensive and, I think, very close to what we will see in the game, with which I agree, as it sounds exactly as it is quite possible and will be

 

[SymbioticLife]

I think you get what i am trying to tell. I don’t want to play a cuckworm simulator. But i also don’t want every girl including Ari who probably slept with 50 other men saying “Oh MC i haven’t seen a man like you before, you have the biggest cock”

I just want some variety, that is all.

I mean, I don't think Ari is going to be worshipping at Eric's altar if that's what you're worried about. For her he's another big dick stud she wants to get with, and also potentially a friend. But I don't think he's there's going to be at all the same dynamic between Ari and Eric as between Eric and Vi.

 

[Klaus Serpens]

We just have to wait for the next update

 

[kikomascado]

I think you get what i am trying to tell. I don’t want to play a cuckworm simulator. But i also don’t want every girl including Ari who probably slept with 50 other men saying “Oh MC i haven’t seen a man like you before, you have the biggest cock”

I just want some variety, that is all.

I said I wouldn't get involved, but I will this time. Hahaha
I am one on those that want the MC to have sex with Ari, and even in said scenario where they do it, it doesn't mean she will suddenly fall in love with his dick. I just want him to be one of her sex friends.
Maybe a bit more romantically involved, after all they are friends, so there's more feelings involved, but nothing sort of what you're describing.
She can have sex with MC while still prefering other dicks.

 

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