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hlfwaycrks

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Then, let me be on the record by saying: the sisters should be focused on the neighbours, not the MC.
Hey, if Orion [Eternum] can keep up his relationships with seven different women (four of whom live under the same roof), then Eric should be up to the challenge!

Mostly joking, but my main point is that a story's only as good as its writer. If it's written correctly, then it could absolutely be done either way.
 

hlfwaycrks

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They haven't even discussed the topic yet of actual sharing (outside of fantasy) and given the pace of the game thus far I sort of doubt Vi blows some other dude next chapter. If it happens it happens but I think it's rude to try to dictate what CG "better" do. Personally I believe pacing it out so it's actually somewhat realistic is the better option, and that seems to be the direction we're headed in.

Three things to keep in mind
1. Once a type of scene has happened any subsequent scenes of a similar type or of a less extreme type lose their impact, this means that ramping up slowly can lead to more content and more diverse content.
2. Taking things more slowly is also more realistic, this is not a married couple spicing up their marriage, this is a young couple that only relatively recently started dating and literally had sex together for the first time like two days ago. Let them explore things at least at a somewhat realistic pace.
3. Building off the last point, the more believable the relationship is the more impact the NTS scenes have, emotions are what truly make an NTS scene have meaningful impact or else it's just marginal shock porn.

And again, this is all the path we're already treading down, so just enjoy the ride and stop trying to escalate as quickly as possible just so you can get your rocks off. It's a great way for a game to lose it's plot direction and credibility very fast, not to mention lower the impact of later scenes.
I wish I could post this, word-for-word, at about a hundred posts in this thread and three other large NTRS games on here that have those same kinds of comments flooding their respective threads.
 
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_Camus_

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Holy shit this update was amazing. This game keeps getting better and better with each update the animations are top notch. I really need to see Ari's ass animated at some point now.

Also kinda funny how savage and wild Eric gets in bed but is too ashamed to tell his mom he has a girlfriend
 

SymbioticLife

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Also kinda funny how savage and wild Eric gets in bed but is too ashamed to tell his mom he has a girlfriend
Typical I think of a lot of young men to be a lot more cagey around their mother than anyone else. Although yes, the contrast is somewhat amusing, but boy was it still fun to see Eric go wild on Vi.
 

Suntar

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Insane update, the dev really has outdone themselves.
It was great to see Vi's PoV and see how much she really loves Eric and wants him to be on the same wavelength as her. The Photoshoot was hot with Vi getting giddy about teasing the photographer and looking forward to teasing Eric and/or getting punished for going too far.
Anya's slowly coming out of her shell and I liked Ari helping her out. Showed she is really a kind and uplifting girl, in a naughty way. Would've liked to see her wearing some outfits, but there's always next patch I guess.
Bar scene was incredibly hot. Didn't like how anxious Eric got when seeing the bathroom performance, immediately fearing for the worst. He really needs to trust Vi more, otherwise he willl never really feel like he "owns" her, no matter what he makes her do or does to her. Loved the spanking part, just wish Eric would've given the go with a first spank himself.
Bedroom scene was amazing. I think seeing the pictures revealed before this scene gives more focuss to Vi's actions during the scene, and how much she actually gets off on it. Loved the sex scene afterwards, great stuff all around. Love to see Eric really letting loose on Vi and her begging for more.

Now, there's two points I'm a bit worried about.
First is Eric having cheated on Vi with Maki. Him being submissive in that action doesn't excuse it one bit, it actually makes it worse. He should have enough backbone to not cheat on Vi, otherwise you can't really expect him to have enough selfconfidence to actually go along further with his and Vi's fetishes than fantasies. He needs to grow some more balls.
This alos gives Maki way too much leverage over Eric and I don't see that going well for either him nor Vi, and especially not their relationship.

Second is the "BBC" and "blacked" fetish. Nothing against black people, but "Blacked", "Bleached" or whatever other racial fetishes exist are inherently supremacist and therefore exclusionary towards everything else. They're also meant to be degrading to people of different races, since they're being portrayed as inferior. Dev has said multiple times that Eric isn't a sub cuck but a dom and it will stay that way, but the endgame for the "blacked" fetish is to turn the girl into a "snowbunny" or "Queen of Spades" who is "black owned". Not really a good fit for a sharing game with a supposedly dom white MC.
Now, I might be seeing writing on the wall that isn't going to manifest, but Ari's dialogue and the CGs when presenting dildo's and every black guy being shown as significantly more well endowed than Eric doesn't help. Doesn't matter if you're carrying a baseball bat when the opposition is swinging around a tree-trunk, no matter what the text says.
 

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Now, there's two points I'm a bit worried about.
First is Eric having cheated on Vi with Maki. Him being submissive in that action doesn't excuse it one bit, it actually makes it worse. He should have enough backbone to not cheat on Vi, otherwise you can't really expect him to have enough selfconfidence to actually go along further with his and Vi's fetishes than fantasies. He needs to grow some more balls.
This alos gives Maki way too much leverage over Eric and I don't see that going well for either him nor Vi, and especially not their relationship.

Second is the "BBC" and "blacked" fetish. Nothing against black people, but "Blacked", "Bleached" or whatever other racial fetishes exist are inherently supremacist and therefore exclusionary towards everything else. They're also meant to be degrading to people of different races, since they're being portrayed as inferior. Dev has said multiple times that Eric isn't a sub cuck but a dom and it will stay that way, but the endgame for the "blacked" fetish is to turn the girl into a "snowbunny" or "Queen of Spades" who is "black owned". Not really a good fit for a sharing game with a supposedly dom white MC.
Now, I might be seeing writing on the wall that isn't going to manifest, but Ari's dialogue and the CGs when presenting dildo's and every black guy being shown as significantly more well endowed than Eric doesn't help. Doesn't matter if you're carrying a baseball bat when the opposition is swinging around a tree-trunk, no matter what the text says.
While I do share some of your concerns in all the discussions I've had/seen/heard with circle I think a lot of these things will be addressed in way you don't have to be overly concerned about. At the very least I can 100% guarantee you Vi won't be a snowbunny. Outside of that you'll have to have some level of trust in CG. I also don't really agree with Eric being "much less endowed" than the black guys. I was curious so I literally pulled up images from in game of the final chapter 4 sex scene with Eric and the starting one with the neighbor, they look nearly identical in size and any difference in size is likely explained by AI bias towards black guys (due to the art people draw) and not the prompting.
 
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DMann4

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Good update for the most part. Great CGs and story writing.
My only complaint is how they immediately walked back the final interaction with Vi from Ch 3 to make it a "JK LOL HEE HEE"

I know some people will disagree with it but this is disingenuous to the fans that paid money. This ending was the difference between me waiting to see more or deciding to support them with my money, which I did. Definitely feel let down that they walked back the faster progression and storyline for an update of story building and grooming instead. It's more realistic when both parties share the kink and a little less creepy.
 

hlfwaycrks

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Doesn't matter if you're carrying a baseball bat when the opposition is swinging around a tree-trunk, no matter what the text says.
You've apparently never seen that World Star footage of me beating the shit out of 20 dudes who were all competing in a caber tossing event, when all I had was a baseball bat! :sneaky:

I haven't gotten there yet in the story, but I'm interested to see what you were referring to RE the Maki cheating stuff and to see if I agree.

Hey guys, so what exactly is the incest patch?
It simply removes "step" from "stepmom" and "stepsister". I believe that's all it does.
 

SymbioticLife

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Great game! Love the blacked content at the end! I'm hoping the dev ignores the haters and adds more content along this route.
It's definitely not hating to be a little critical. I can tell you even CG is aware that he doesn't want to lean too heavily into racial fetish content (something he's talked about repeatedly). It's a balance to be played, so I don't think it's "hating" to vocalize that. As long as one's doing it in a constructive manner and not making demands.
 

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For the people who wanted a renaming patch, I tried making one and combining with the incest patch as to make both accesible from the preferences menu.
You'll be asked for the relationship and names when starting a new save, and can also edit it anytime by right clicking.
It's an automatic text replacer, so when the character name isn't displayed in full (Like Viol... for Violet or Ma... for Maki) it won't work, but for most of the game I think it should work correctly, including future updates.
It's my first ever Ren'Py mod and I didn't test it that much (nor I'll use it, because I prefer to use the default names), so it's expected to have some issues, but if you see something wrong tell me and maybe if I have time I'll try to fix it.
 

hlfwaycrks

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It's definitely not hating to be a little critical. I can tell you even CG is aware that he doesn't want to lean too heavily into racial fetish content (something he's talked about repeatedly). It's a balance to be played, so I don't think it's "hating" to vocalize that. As long as one's doing it in a constructive manner and not making demands.
100% agreed, and I think that games can benefit very much from discussions with constructive feedback and/or critiques, so long as it coincides with the spirit of the game and the stated-by-the-dev goals/direction of the game (I think that distinction is important as I do not support people who show up to express the direction in which they want the game to go, when said direction is the complete antithesis of what the dev is making, e.g. the NTR crowd coming into NTRS threads talking about how they want the LI to cheat, etc.), so long as the dev is willing to listen!
 

R0rshach26

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While I do share some of your concerns in all the discussions I've had/seen/heard with circle I think a lot of these things will be addressed in way you don't have to be overly concerned about. At the very least I can 100% guarantee you Vi won't be a snowbunny. Outside of that you'll have to have some level of trust in CG. I also don't really agree with Eric being "much less endowed" than the black guys. I was curious so I literally pulled up images from in game of the final chapter 4 sex scene with Eric and the starting one with the neighbor, they look nearly identical in size and any difference in size is likely explained by AI bias towards black guys (due to the art people draw) and not the prompting.
In terms of the Eric "cheating on" Vi with Maki thing. Very easy and neat in story way to fix that. Make it so that all Makis teasing of him,to him etc. Future threats of oh I'm gonna tell Vi about this or that. Bubbles up in Eric to a point he snaps. Without even knowing it she brings his super dominant side out. He unknowingly reigns her the way in and she doesn't wanna be with anyone else but him. The way to Cement Eric being a Dom,with us the player/viewer. Then have the NTS stuff still happen/be a participant etc... Is to have Erics Super Dominant come out and be super dominant to the least easy to "reign in". But only Maki(the least "reign in able") knows of Erics SUPER dominant side. I think it really sells everything the game creator is going for in terms of Eric to us players/viewers

My only issue with Eric being (well at least looking less well endowed) much less endowed. Than the black guys and possibly other guys, is the writing/description doesn't match what we're seeing. Could be just the AI bias like you said. I don't need Eric's Dick to BE a baseball bat BUT in terms of the size of one...can it be even close to that size. Any time a girl mentions his dick size,then we see it. A little disconnect ,"oh okay, I expected something..... A little longer?". If that's as big as the AI goes for white dudes then we'll have to accept that. Also real quick damn man we had to do his best friend Sai like that....Looks like the size of a crayon box.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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In terms of the Eric "cheating on" Vi with Maki thing. Very easy and neat in story way to fix that. Make it so that all Makis teasing of him,to him etc. Future threats of oh I'm gonna tell Vi about this or that. Bubbles up in Eric to a point he snaps. Without even knowing it she brings his super dominant side out. He unknowingly reigns her the way in and she doesn't wanna be with anyone else but him. The way to Cement Eric being a Dom,with us the player/viewer. Then have the NTS stuff still happen/be a participant etc... Is to have Erics Super Dominant come out and be super dominant to the least easy to "reign in". But only Maki(the least "reign in able") knows of Erics SUPER dominant side. I think it really sells everything the game creator is going for in terms of Eric to us players/viewers
Errr okay.... but what does that have to do with Eric cheating on Vi with Maki then?

I got it, so now Eric's mega super Chad-McTakeNoShit Thundercock, but again, what does that have to do at all with the earlier scene? Unless you're suggesting a more assertive Eric would be better at setting boundaries with her, but then saying "she doesn't wanna be with anyone else but him" flies in the face of this.
 
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