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Pr0GamerJohnny

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I feel like there might be an issue here where animation frames are being counted as individual images. I understand that the dev might want to make something higher quality, but still images are hot too, and you have much more runway to actually progress the story. The Netorase phone guy has a much better balance. Updates are regular, basically clockwork monthly, and that last one had tons of good content. She was fucking dudes at like the second update. Save animations for endgame, they become reward then.
To be fair, there's a CANYON in quality difference between the ntrs phone graphics and this. Even though I don't like all the story or characters here, it's still a pleasure to look at the artwork.
 
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I thought this update was good, maybe a little short for the +3 month wait, but the animations were excellent! I didn't like ending on the cliffhanger tho... at this update speed we'll get to see the end of the club event in June.
Ari the fat assed gremlin is hot as fuck and carrying this game right now, loved her calling Sai cuck and bringing out Dom Vi:love: hope we see more femdom-y stuff.

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i mean its clear its meant to be lol but in chapter 5 it sorta breaks when lauren talks about not being able to have kids like wut??
Yea I was surprised there too, but then again it not impossible, I have heard several cases where women weren't fertile enough to get children, yet with an healthy diet and much determination they still gotten children after all. But it not given for every infertile women, only very few.
 
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i mean its clear its meant to be lol but in chapter 5 it sorta breaks when lauren talks about not being able to have kids like wut??
Well, sometimes infertily come later for different reasons. She seems too young for menopause, but maybe she wasn't superfertile to begin with and with time the situation got worst. Not played chapter 5 yet.
 
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I thought this update was good, maybe a little short for the +3 month wait, but the animations were excellent! I didn't like ending on the cliffhanger tho... at this update speed we'll get to see the end of the club event in June.
Ari the fat assed gremlin is hot as fuck and carrying this game right now, loved her calling Sai cuck and bringing out Dom Vi:love: hope we see more femdom-y stuff.

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Well I liked it most how Vi declined sucking Sai, telling him he wasn't packing enough for her, unlike her bf or Rob, so if she will suck or have fun with another guy, I'm sure it will be either Rob or his brother, she is after all a tool queen, any tool smaller then her bf she wouldn't feel happy with. least the MC will sure have alot of fun too, as he pack something most girls want even think he will be riding Ari sometime soon, with a bit more corrupting Vi she will let it happen.
 

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Yeah I definitely saw some of this as Vi putting Ari in her place a bit. While Vi is undoubtedly going to play around I think she'll stick purely to her claim of being the MCs slut and won't play into Ari's "cuck" nonsense unless it applies to Sai. So Vi fucks other men and women when the MC says.
 

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To be fair, there's a CANYON in quality difference between the ntrs phone graphics and this. Even though I don't like all the story or characters here, it's still a pleasure to look at the artwork.
There was an over 3 month wait time for what feels like very little content which were the devs resources have been used on stills, would not feel that way. There's a balance to be struck that that game has and this one hasn't. Art quality considering its AI is definitely personal preference, but personally I find them on par. Neither is more difficult to produce as can be seen from the fan art threads for either game where some AI enthusiasts have essentially reverse engineered the formula for both perfectly. This developer is going for spectacle with the animations but honestly its just not worth it at the pace the story is progressing. I'm not on team wait a year for fucking, get to the gangbangs and sluttification lol.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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Well I liked it most how Vi declined sucking Sai, telling him he wasn't packing enough for her, unlike her bf or Rob, so if she will suck or have fun with another guy, I'm sure it will be either Rob or his brother, she is after all a tool queen, any tool smaller then her bf she wouldn't feel happy with. least the MC will sure have alot of fun too, as he pack something most girls want even think he will be riding Ari sometime soon, with a bit more corrupting Vi she will let it happen.
Heh that was the single part of the update I didn't like, the rest did a remarkable job of staying clear of the lame tropes and keeping the vibe chill and open-ended.
There was an over 3 month wait time for what feels like very little content which were the devs resources have been used on stills, would not feel that way. There's a balance to be struck that that game has and this one hasn't. Art quality considering its AI is definitely personal preference, but personally I find them on par. Neither is more difficult to produce as can be seen from the fan art threads for either game where some AI enthusiasts have essentially reverse engineered the formula for both perfectly. This developer is going for spectacle with the animations but honestly its just not worth it at the pace the story is progressing. I'm not on team wait a year for fucking, get to the gangbangs and sluttification lol.
I'm not disagreeing with your point that the ntrs phone guy seems to be much more consistent, nor did I mean I think this guy puts in a lot more or less effort. Simply just to my subjective eyes and taste, there's a big output graphics quality difference between the two games.
 
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Kryptonyte

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Heh that was the single part of the update I didn't like, the rest did a remarkable job of staying clear of the lame tropes and keeping the vibe chill and open-ended.

I'm not disagreeing with your point that the ntrs phone guy seems to be much more consistent, nor did I mean I think this guy puts in a lot more or less effort. Simply just to my subjective eyes and taste, there's a big output graphics quality difference between the two games.
I understand the reason for this particular subjectivity. The artstyle here is much more "lush." Personally I don't prefer either, honestly I just want more hot topics and stories to be covered and told. I feel like devs eventually fall into a trap where they go for some level of perfectionism that I think hampers their games, when really you just need good enough art and hot subject matter at a reasonable pace. Princess trainer from Akabur was once upon the time a gold standard and I think holds up, his later games are no where near as good even though they're way more involved and complicated. Get the fundamentals and move the story along until you end up with the right amount of slut, I think.
 

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We talked about the fact that such a long wait is not justified, now I want to express my opinion about the plot and the narrative, if in chapter 4 for Vi there were too many changes, she too quickly switched to the lustful side of her nature, then fortunately chapter 5 did not give quick jumps in lust in the plot after chapter 4, the plot is very organic and rich, not counting the scene with Sonya and her stepmother, as if it was either superfluous or did not fit into the atmosphere of the narrative, because there was no continuation of their branch in chapter 5, it was possible to move it to 6 and refine the plot, or show at least some continuation in chapter 5, regarding the scenes in the club, they look very organic, I'm glad that the developer did not rush things with Vi, and dragged out the plot with her, the plot is really exciting, I played in one breath, maybe this played a cruel joke on me, the plot flew by in an instant , but as I wrote earlier, the wait is not worth the effort, such a plot should come out once every 1.5 months at most, it felt like if such a plot came out once a month, the project would be priceless, I would continue to support the developer without sparing my money, I think I'm not the only one. But for now, this is starting to look like a regular milking machine like the game Innocent Witches, where there are many promises and little action, but as for the animations, the developer is great, he really gave something new, but it still doesn't justify such a long wait!










Forgive me, but I didn't find anything new in this VN, in fact, the lack of playing with options, made it a simple kinetic video, you're right about the waiting times, precisely because it has no options, but a simple kinetic video, with a very simple plot, and to say plot is even exaggerated, in the end VI is becoming the slut that Ari wants, Eric after judging Sai, in this chapter, is becoming a cuckold happier than Sai, he is on top, we have the boss of the fuckers, Rob, yes true, he is not arrogant like in other VNs, but he is always the godfather of the story with the biggest cock, surely the future will make us see a Vi fucked by BBC in DP, even Anya, and our MC from a tough boy, will become the good old weak cuckold, the Dev has outlined the story.
 

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animations, adding too many characters, adding branch stories, these are the traps usually Devs fall for that and ruining their games and progress.
these are good for big companies not solo Dev or little groups.
20 sec animation really worth 1 month add to update time ???
 
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idkmanerally

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i keep seeing people complain about the animations causing the update to be delayed... afaik the dev is outsourcing those. the dev (or one of his many simps, i can't remember) said that what took so much time was photoshopping the group scenes. so shit like the dancing scene, and when they are all sitting at the table together, etc.

now just because he's outsourcing doesn't mean it's free, he still has to generate the images and send those to the animator, and i imagine there's some back and forth to get it right

but don't blame the animations completely, i think the choice to have all the characters in one location was the problem here
 

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Well, sometimes infertily come later for different reasons. She seems too young for menopause, but maybe she wasn't superfertile to begin with and with time the situation got worst. Not played chapter 5 yet.
Ok Laura clearly said she never had kids so... stepmum?
 

Machete

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yeah thats what breaks the Ipatch i feel that sentence lol and its like "well okay then that takes me out the moment" sex with step sibling isnt incest XD
But she had no kids, so it only makes sense if Erik and the girls have the same father and probably mother and Laura was the second wife. She says she rised the three of them. As what? As a neighbour who found them once playing in her backyard?
 
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Forgive me, but I didn't find anything new in this VN, in fact, the lack of playing with options, made it a simple kinetic video, you're right about the waiting times, precisely because it has no options, but a simple kinetic video, with a very simple plot, and to say plot is even exaggerated, in the end VI is becoming the slut that Ari wants, Eric after judging Sai, in this chapter, is becoming a cuckold happier than Sai, he is on top, we have the boss of the fuckers, Rob, yes true, he is not arrogant like in other VNs, but he is always the godfather of the story with the biggest cock, surely the future will make us see a Vi fucked by BBC in DP, even Anya, and our MC from a tough boy, will become the good old weak cuckold, the Dev has outlined the story.
Not so sure about weak cuck, so far I seen MC more acting like a Stag, and his gf loves him for that, as she can have fun along it, so MC seems going to stay at a certain lvl dominant, as he will also get fun with girls, he only need to lose morality issue of sleeping gf's best friend or sisters/mother taboo. Fact he already okay to share, will never make him a sissy, Sai on other hand has more potential to be the weak cuck, looking and enduring the insults during it.
 
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I like the game, good graphics, good plot and well scaled, but in three months offering so little content sounds like squeezing out the Patreons.

The developers do not understand that it is better to make three shorter games with the appropriate update rate and earn a name, than not to squeeze and disappoint in a single game.
 

alex220477

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Not so sure about weak cuck, so far I seen MC more acting like a Stag, and his gf loves him for that, as she can have fun along it, so MC seems going to stay at a certain lvl dominant, as he will also get fun with girls, he only need to lose morality issue of sleeping gf's best friend or sisters/mother taboo. Fact he already okay to share, will never make him a sissy, Sai on other hand has more potential to be the weak cuck, looking and enduring the insults during it.







you have your reasons, but the paths already written, my point is, you see in the important scenes, Vi does what he wants and Eric does nothing or says nothing to show his dominance, accepts the scenes Vi decides, that's why I judge him a loser, not a dominant, it is VI who dominates the game.
 
4.50 star(s) 143 Votes