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no cuck, she doesn't ask permission, or asks for permission to tease ( NTS ) it is a Cuck game,dev has the wrong definition
I'm not sure you're playing the same game. They talked about the boundaries and Eric said he's ok. Whenever she's doing something, she looks at Eric for approval. Eric is not a cuck and won't be a cuck.
 

palmtrees89

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no cuck, she doesn't ask permission, or asks for permission to tease ( NTS ) it is a Cuck game,dev has the wrong definition
I guess the several times Vi and Eric had a conversation about teasing and being okay with doing stuff doesn't count to you?

I'm not sure you're playing the same game. They talked about the boundaries and Eric said he's ok. Whenever she's doing something, she looks at Eric for approval. Eric is not a cuck and won't be a cuck.
He might be drunk or something. Dude sent me a PM with nothing but- and I quote; "paedo". Not sure if he means what I think he means, but I've got no clue where that's even coming from. Or perhaps someone hacked his account, who knows. lol
 
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I'm not sure you're playing the same game. They talked about the boundaries and Eric said he's ok. Whenever she's doing something, she looks at Eric for approval. Eric is not a cuck and won't be a cuck.
Too early to tell IMO. So far Eric is ascenting, but there are no choices made. She did decide to humiliate his friend at the club in the final scene, but also decided to stroke his cock without even any sort of look of consent, or asking Eric what he thought she should do. It's also the first time she is doing these sorts of things apparently (unless she is lying). Could go either way IMO, and that's a bit of secret sauce.
 
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ItsNotUs

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I'm not sure you're playing the same game. They talked about the boundaries and Eric said he's ok. Whenever she's doing something, she looks at Eric for approval. Eric is not a cuck and won't be a cuck.
Eric is 100% cuckold!
Moreover, a person who experiences excitement from the fact that his girlfriend or wife is doing lovey-dovey things with others is Cuckold!
He doesn’t decide anything for himself, first his older sister decides and then the dev, because in order to make the story more interesting, the MC has to hesitate, but the girls around him tease him and cross his boundaries, at first he arrives in bewilderment, but then follows the standard:
Vi
- dear, you like it!?
Eric
- yes i like it!
And no matter what you say, the story will come to the point that Vi will fuck bbc with a bigger dick than MC and MC will like it! Well, such cuck love! xd
 
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ItsNotUs

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Too early to tell IMO. So far Eric is ascenting, but there are no choices made. She did decide to humiliate his friend at the club in the final scene, but also decided to stroke his cock without even any sort of look of consent, or asking Eric what he thought she should do. It's also the first time she is doing these sorts of things apparently (unless she is lying). Could go either way IMO, and that's a bit of secret sauce.
And even so?
Then i don’t understand why raise this topic at all - if everything is already clear!
 

Dercuillo

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Eric is 100% cuckold!
100% not that simple! :D

Let's dig this...


Cuckolding can take two forms, perceived as either negative or positive. The general view of cuckolding is often seen through the lens of submission/humiliation, which represents the negative side.

Note: The negative/positive appreciation is subjective and can be discussed, but that will not be the focus here.

To better understand the concept, we need to break down some of the psychological aspects that drive this kink:


The negative perspective generally relies on psychological dynamics linked to concepts of loss of control, comparison, and reversal of traditional roles. For example:

Deprivation and loss of status: The idea that one’s partner finds pleasure with someone else creates a situation where the submissive man feels “inferior” or “replaced,” which can be exciting for some.

Sexual comparison: Some cuckolding fantasies include the idea that the lover is “better” sexually, whether in terms of performance, size, or endurance. This feeling of inferiority can be a source of excitement.

Consensual humiliation: Being “dominated” psychologically by one’s partner and the lover can trigger pleasure for those who enjoy power games and controlled humiliation.

Voyeurism and controlled frustration: Seeing one’s partner with another without being able to participate actively engages frustration mechanisms, which can enhance desire and excitement.

Psychological masochism: Some find pleasure in experiencing negative emotions like jealousy or humiliation, in a controlled environment where they paradoxically derive pleasure from them.

The key point here lies in the dynamic of power and control, where submission and humiliation play a central role.


The positive perspective
, on the other hand, is based on shared pleasure, driven by factors such as:

Compersion: The pleasure experienced by seeing one’s partner happy or satisfied, a concept often associated with open and polyamorous relationships.

Indirect pleasure: Some feel desire knowing their partner is having an intense experience, even without participating directly.

Amplification of desire: Seeing one’s partner desired by someone else can strengthen attraction and desire in the relationship.

The key point here is shared pleasure.


This second approach, while sometimes linked to a “lighter” form of cuckolding, is more aligned with the psychological dynamics of swinging.
It should be noted that, in any case, all extended relationships (three or more people) inherently contain some component of cuckolding, whether negative or positive.


Once we understand these two analytical perspectives, at this stage of development, it cannot be said that Eric is 100% cuckold.

His relationship with Vi leans more towards the positive view than the negative one.

He doesn’t feel inferior, he doesn’t need to compare himself, he is not psychologically dominated (quite the opposite), he is a voyeur, he is not frustrated, he is neither jealous nor humiliated.

However, the idea that Vi might enjoy herself with someone else excites him (though we’re not quite there yet), he derives indirect pleasure, and his pleasure is amplified by the desire that Vi generates in others.

In short, we have a loving and close couple in a form of sexual perversion (from a normative point of view) that leans more towards swinging combined with voyeurism/exhibitionism.

My two cents... :p
 

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well yeah i thought it was obvious eric was a cuck.. just cuck switch.. sometimes cuck, sometimes gets cucked..

did new version with anya pov release yday? didnt see it on patreon feed but maybe dev say something on discord?
 

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100% not that simple! :D

Let's dig this...


Cuckolding can take two forms, perceived as either negative or positive. The general view of cuckolding is often seen through the lens of submission/humiliation, which represents the negative side.

Note: The negative/positive appreciation is subjective and can be discussed, but that will not be the focus here.

To better understand the concept, we need to break down some of the psychological aspects that drive this kink:


The negative perspective generally relies on psychological dynamics linked to concepts of loss of control, comparison, and reversal of traditional roles. For example:

Deprivation and loss of status: The idea that one’s partner finds pleasure with someone else creates a situation where the submissive man feels “inferior” or “replaced,” which can be exciting for some.

Sexual comparison: Some cuckolding fantasies include the idea that the lover is “better” sexually, whether in terms of performance, size, or endurance. This feeling of inferiority can be a source of excitement.

Consensual humiliation: Being “dominated” psychologically by one’s partner and the lover can trigger pleasure for those who enjoy power games and controlled humiliation.

Voyeurism and controlled frustration: Seeing one’s partner with another without being able to participate actively engages frustration mechanisms, which can enhance desire and excitement.

Psychological masochism: Some find pleasure in experiencing negative emotions like jealousy or humiliation, in a controlled environment where they paradoxically derive pleasure from them.

The key point here lies in the dynamic of power and control, where submission and humiliation play a central role.


The positive perspective
, on the other hand, is based on shared pleasure, driven by factors such as:

Compersion: The pleasure experienced by seeing one’s partner happy or satisfied, a concept often associated with open and polyamorous relationships.

Indirect pleasure: Some feel desire knowing their partner is having an intense experience, even without participating directly.

Amplification of desire: Seeing one’s partner desired by someone else can strengthen attraction and desire in the relationship.

The key point here is shared pleasure.


This second approach, while sometimes linked to a “lighter” form of cuckolding, is more aligned with the psychological dynamics of swinging.
It should be noted that, in any case, all extended relationships (three or more people) inherently contain some component of cuckolding, whether negative or positive.


Once we understand these two analytical perspectives, at this stage of development, it cannot be said that Eric is 100% cuckold.

His relationship with Vi leans more towards the positive view than the negative one.

He doesn’t feel inferior, he doesn’t need to compare himself, he is not psychologically dominated (quite the opposite), he is a voyeur, he is not frustrated, he is neither jealous nor humiliated.

However, the idea that Vi might enjoy herself with someone else excites him (though we’re not quite there yet), he derives indirect pleasure, and his pleasure is amplified by the desire that Vi generates in others.

In short, we have a loving and close couple in a form of sexual perversion (from a normative point of view) that leans more towards swinging combined with voyeurism/exhibitionism.

My two cents... :p
Ok, if you take it like this, then the cuckold-cuck (from the name of the bird cuckoo that throws its ags into others birds nests) from where this nickname originally came from is the person who does not know that he is raising someone else’s child thinking that this is his own!

Nowadays, this term has become used more as jargon.
They even call a MC in NTR games a cuck, who doesn’t like it and is against his wife cheating on him, but can’t do anything about it.
I don’t see the point in discussing who sees what in this word, but it doesn’t matter whether it’s a person sharing or something else, who is excited by the fact that his partner is doing lewd-sex things with others - he's a Cuckold, whichever way you look at it and which wrapper you wrap it in!


Moreover, the NTS genre itself implies this!
 
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Dercuillo

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Ok, if you take it like this...
I don’t take anything like this (which extends to I’m not sure what) and I don’t wrap anything in a specific way (i.e., biased as you suggest), I just point out clearly what cuckolding is because it seems like many people see it as something simple when it’s actually not.

Then I’m just listing inherent facts about the game to say that Eric is not the stereotype of the cuck, i.e., the dominated guy.

To finish, I see the tags Netorare and Swinging for this game, and so far, we only have swinging showing up. Maybe NTR will come later. The only potential NTS dynamic could be between Eric and Ari or Eric and Sonia, but even then, it’s not certain at all. For now, it suggests swinging with no emotional aspect other than sexual excitement. For NTS, there would need to be an emotional/romantic aspect involved, and that’s not the case.

Anyway, no need to argue on facts, they are what they are. Even if they don’t align with some people’s fantasies…

Rendez-vous in a few chapters to see how all of this evolves! :D
 
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I don’t take anything like this (which extends to I’m not sure what) and I don’t wrap anything in a specific way (i.e., biased as you suggest), I just point out clearly what cuckolding is because it seems like many people see it as something simple when it’s actually not.

Then I’m just listing inherent facts about the game to say that Eric is not the stereotype of the cuck, i.e., the dominated guy.

To finish, I see the tags Netorare and Swinging for this game, and so far, we only have swinging showing up. Maybe NTR will come later. The only potential NTS dynamic could be between Eric and Ari or Eric and Sonia, but even then, it’s not certain at all. For now, it suggests swinging with no emotional aspect other than sexual excitement. For NTS, there would need to be an emotional/romantic aspect involved, and that’s not the case.

Anyway, no need to argue on facts, they are what they are. Even if they don’t align with some people’s fantasies…

Rendez-vous in a few chapters to see how all of this evolves! :D
:rolleyes:
"I don’t see the point in discussing who sees what in this word, but it doesn’t matter whether it’s a person sharing or something else, who is excited by the fact that his partner is doing lewd-sex things with others - he's a Cuckold, whichever way you look at it and which wrapper you wrap it in!"
 

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Quoting oneself is… quite ridiculous, but I’ll do it for you, my friend!
It should be noted that, in any case, all extended relationships (three or more people) inherently contain some component of cuckolding, whether negative or positive.
So, if 100% cuck is the stereotypical dominated/submissive guy and 0% is the ‘normal’ guy in a ‘normal’ couple, let’s agree that Eric must be around 5% at this point of the game…

I hope this will ease your mind in some way! :p

Now if you’re the kind of person who sees the world in black and white no matter what, I’m afraid there’s nothing I can do to help out… :confused:
 

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Quoting oneself is… quite ridiculous, but I’ll do it for you, my friend!


So, if 100% cuck is the stereotypical dominated/submissive guy and 0% is the ‘normal’ guy in a ‘normal’ couple, let’s agree that Eric must be around 5% at this point of the game…

I hope this will ease your mind in some way! :p

Now if you’re the kind of person who sees the world in black and white no matter what, I’m afraid there’s nothing I can do to help out… :confused:
You know what’s ridiculous is that when you play this project in this genre you don’t understand what you’re dealing with! Why are you trying to shield yourself from this term because everyone is just waiting for Vi to suck or jump on someone’s dick, while Eric will be happy about this and very excited - after all, he so wants his girlfriend to be a slut!
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Arguing over NTR/NTS and their meaning, huh? Forum mods just love that. Entire pages gonna be nuked. Yay...
Who is arguing over NTR/NTS? Not me, for sure! The subject was culkolding which is part of the dynamic between characters... And since we’re waiting for the DLC and nothing’s happening on the thread, is there any harm in discussing the game a bit? :unsure:
If so the mods will do their job... :sick:
 
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