telly1712

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Thanks for reminding me - i miss obviously things on Patreon...anyhow ...remains the point that - at least in my pov - there is pretty poor communication ....
 

Hazystomp

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Thanks for reminding me - i miss obviously things on Patreon...anyhow ...remains the point that - at least in my pov - there is pretty poor communication ....
Yeah abyss is doing great on that one.
It's one thing to build tension and other to just kill it, the subscribed patreon supporters deserve something more than a 4 sentence reminder every three weeks.
Not everyone wants to spend time on discord. I am only saying this without visiting the discord ever.
 

palmtrees89

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Thanks for reminding me - i miss obviously things on Patreon...anyhow ...remains the point that - at least in my pov - there is pretty poor communication ....
I get what you're saying, thing is.. Both the dev and people who'd share stuff are kinda fed up with the toxic environment this thread has become, thanks to some lunatics. lol

Just look at some of the recent posts and you know what I mean. :)
 
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telly1712

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Fully understand....but we all love this game and expect some professional info / communication at least... you know what i want to say... ?
 

SymbioticLife

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Yeah abyss is doing great on that one.
It's one thing to build tension and other to just kill it, the subscribed patreon supporters deserve something more than a 4 sentence reminder every three weeks.
Not everyone wants to spend time on discord. I am only saying this without visiting the discord ever.
There isn't really a ton to say, production continues and he's working on it every day.

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All I'll say is I personally enjoy everything I've seen of the next chapter a lot, and I hope everyone else does too once it's all ready for the public.
 

palmtrees89

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Fully understand....but we all love this game and expect some professional info / communication at least... you know what i want to say... ?
Yeah, but you can't really "expect" that from a developer in a forum where their game is pirated. Especially not when about 90% of the comments lately are negative.

You'll get all the communication on Patreon and the Discord server where people support the developer. That's where you can expect it because you pay for it. :)
 

shotzpro

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In my own opinion as a dev, I can only share my internal thought process on this.

- 90% of the games/novels that come out get abandoned eventually. That's just a fact. There's a lot of reasons for this, but the main one is the dev losing his/her vision because he/she is trying to accommodate to every single person out there.

- Choices are a very powerful thing, being able to alter to story to your personal liking is something only a few devs out there can pull off. I'm talking about meaningful choices, not talking about choices to avoid certain types of content. While to some, that may classify as being able to alter the story to your liking, in essence, it does go against the vision of the developer. If his/her game is focused around NTS/Sharing/Swinging, then what's the point of including choices to avoid that? Yes, you would reach a wider audience, but it would also mean spreading yourself so thin. Constantly having to think about every scene that you make in more ways than just one. As you then have to consider how to build the scene in a way that people who don't want to see that scene, still feel engaged to the story.

- In my opinion, the best dev's are the one who were able to start a passion project and finish it. While their initial project wasn't something to blow you out of the water, it did show promise and consistency. The following games from those devs then get wider in scope and are able to please a wider audience. (Dr. Pinkcake, Caribdis, Remtairy as some examples).

TLDR; While I do agree that choices are a great thing to have in a visual novel, there's always a flip-side. Allow dev's to finish their vision, without trying to force yours. There's always games out their that cater to your own personal view, however they might not have the same visual quality or storytelling as this game and that's the main reason. A good story and good visuals get the attention of people, sometimes so much so, that every other game just doesn't scratch that itch, even when it doesn't cater to your sexual preferences. Which is the reason why so many people ask for different routes/choices. It's a tough spot to be in, but you should never ever blame the developer. He/She is not making that choice, because they don't respect your opinion, but rather, they want to be able to provide their vision and hard work, without overcomplicating things.

Sidenote: This isn't a direct response to your message, but rather, just me wanting to share my own opinion as I do agree with you on many points.

My New Girlfriend is a great example of good storytelling with incredible visuals.
Let them cook
 

deimos86

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In my humble opinion, the producer wastes a lot of time making animation and choosing music, he puts any soundtrack, it's not important, and animation is not that important either, we want to see the scene, the plot, animation takes a lot of time to make, after all it's a comic book, not a movie!
 

VoyeurRed

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Hi I genuinely need help with my new laptop.....well used but still newer laptop..... anyway, what resolution is best to play these games on for my laptop? I've only ever used my android phone to play these before......

Thx for info if you decide to help
 

Zellemate

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Yo what's the name of the game you have in the art i can see its witches and wands but when i searched for it i am unable to find it is it a game or some art ?
All current links to the project is in my signature, its in development for version 0.1 :coffee:
 
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mkkinnonn11

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tell me, is there anything known about the update, or have I missed everything? This is one of the two best games I'm looking forward to. I can't wait to see what's going to happen!
 
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