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I realize I'm probably just being selfish here, but I fully agree with the harem bit. Not every girl has to be drooling over MC, and I think it would be especially hot if there were characters (especially girls) who clearly dislike MC, who then used that dynamic to get Vi into "activities" without Eric being there, almost out of spite. That's why I kinda dug the way the Vi photoshoot scene was handled though; it takes a bit of that MC-centric lens away and gives Vi a bit more of her own agenda (besides just "hoo I wonder what Eric will think, I only want to do this because he wants me to").

I say it's selfish though because...I get it, I guess. I reckon "harem" as a genre is so popular because a lot of guys who play these games just by default insert themselves into the MC, and they all want a harem of sluts just hanging onto their dicks (or something). Basic fantasy fulfilment = happy brain chemicals. For me, it gets a bit tiring and boring to have everything be on MC's terms, and I love spontaneity, especially when somebody in a relationship makes their own choices, out of their own desires, even if it ends up being a "mistake" and it leads to fallout.


I kinda can't disagree about Anya, even though I really want to not care about that. Then again, I get it, we've had Anya secretly thirsting over MC since, what, the beginning? I think the scene being cut off because "oops it's in public hehe" was the developer sort of realizing it was maybe progressing too fast, but I dunno, sometimes people just let themselves go in the throes of passion. I personally think a quick (perhaps slightly regretful) BJ in a dressing room as a spur-of-the-moment thing would have been hotter, but I understand why it didn't happen (and why it shouldn't).

Also, I was thinking about the wig thing, as it might have been meant to hide Vi's identity (especially because she mentioned something earlier in the update about people recognizing her), if the BJ was photographed/filmed or whatever. Then again, the game could have played around this, because...it's Vi sending the photos. It would have been even hotter (in my opinion) if we actually got to see Vi sucking Luke's dick, with her normal hair, and then later on, Eric maybe finds out extra footage of Vi on one of the websites, and in that video, she's wearing the wig; showing that she didn't show Eric and Ari the actual footage that was shot, and the pictures that they got...were behind the scenes photos that she took herself, of her own accord, just to show them.

I dunno, there's a dozen different ways to do the photoshoot scene. I read something about a DLC that shows more of the photoshoot, and I low-key can't wait to see how it's done in there. I need to see more of that photoshoot either way, unless it ends up being "the girl in the wig isn't Vi". Everything else is gucci though.


She gave Sai a handjob, and they've been dancing around wanting to see Vi be more slutty for 6 fucking chapters. You guys are so weird and fragile with some mystical slow burn that should happen with Vi actually finally, what, using her mouth instead of her hands? It's weird you're even playing NTS games when any action the girl takes (oh, and let's not pretend it matters what Eric does, and how much consent and affirmation and confirmation he gets from Vi before doing anything with any girls, which is, uhh...none IIRC) should be preceded with, what, Vi getting on her knees and grovelling at Eric to please, Eric, dear future hubby, to let me briefly touch mine tongue upon this guy's dick? It's baffling to me that people seek out NTS games, and then have this kind of a reaction to, uh oh, something actually finally happening after 6 chapters of build-up.
Man, you have your opinion, I have mine, simple. For me and many others, what happened was too fast and without any planning, it was literally out of nowhere, without any conversation, which is the basis of every relationship that has NTS. That's why several people said it was much more NTR than NTS. There would be no problem with the scene happening if it had been planned between both of them, and not the way it happened. I don't have a problem with her being more open. My problem is that she, with the first guy she saw alone, sucked him out of nowhere, without mentioning that they are just starting this type of relationship and this would be her first experience. That's why I found it all so strange that this happened kind of out of nowhere. And when you talk about 6 chapters, you forget that only a few days passed in the game and the 6 chapters didn't focus only on the couple. But again, my problem isn't the scene, but how it was set up. If it had been something discussed between both of them, for me and many others, it would have been much better than for her to simply go from 0 to 100 out of nowhere and become a slut in the blink of an eye.
 

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Could go either way on the Luke scene. It really depends on if Vi actually goes flat out and sucks him off or if it is just staged for the camera. My bet is we don't see Vi's side for a reason, that being that she's staged the whole scene to wind up the MC. Ultimately that entire set of pictures could have been 15 seconds purely for the camera.

SoA does the same thing occasionally, pushing towards the NTR line to pull back. That is actually part of what makes a good NTS game sometimes.

If Vi really is flat out doing it then it feels pretty cheap for it to happen as a few photos. That would be my biggest complaint, not seeing Vi's first time live. For that reason I'm 100% betting on this being Vi staging it for a few photos and then not going any further until she has permission. Though she won't admit to that until after the MC fucks her into the ground.
 

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Hmm idk about having antagonist girls corrupting Vi, but that's also just a personal preference since I dislike the corruption genre overall (when done by 3rd parties). But yeah, Vi being free and enjoying herself was the best part of the whole update for me, that's what NTS is for.

And that last guy, just straight up ignore that weirdo he's in every NTS game thread here saying the same bullshit lmaooo Idk why he does it to himself if he hates this genre so much.
said the guy who gets bothered by anyone who has a different opinion than his, how mature you are, aren't you? ;)
 
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Could go either way on the Luke scene. It really depends on if Vi actually goes flat out and sucks him off or if it is just staged for the camera. My bet is we don't see Vi's side for a reason, that being that she's staged the whole scene to wind up the MC. Ultimately that entire set of pictures could have been 15 seconds purely for the camera.

SoA does the same thing occasionally, pushing towards the NTR line to pull back. That is actually part of what makes a good NTS game sometimes.

If Vi really is flat out doing it then it feels pretty cheap for it to happen as a few photos. That would be my biggest complaint, not seeing Vi's first time live. For that reason I'm 100% betting on this being Vi staging it for a few photos and then not going any further until she has permission. Though she won't admit to that until after the MC fucks her into the ground.
Agreed, I wouldn't complain this chapter is short (it's not) my problems with it are the art style being inconsistent and wasting some opportunities.

I could care less about the new girl being added she does nothing for me and her look was so inconsistent it felt rushed and half finished.

For Vi her corruption is the main thing I want to see, and this chapter either did a fake out (annoying but could set up good developments after wards) or if real, a huge missed opportunity to actually show the moment of truth... And to have the photoshoot just end like that, after all the months of waiting and buildup, just so we could waste time on the new girl and a date with Anya that both seemed like too much and too little imo... I dunno. It feels a bit sloppy to me, even if I like the story overall and was happy with the half of the photoshoot we did see.
 

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Agreed, I wouldn't complain this chapter is short (it's not) my problems with it are the art style being inconsistent and wasting some opportunities.

I could care less about the new girl being added she does nothing for me and her look was so inconsistent it felt rushed and half finished.

For Vi her corruption is the main thing I want to see, and this chapter either did a fake out (annoying but could set up good developments after wards) or if real, a huge missed opportunity to actually show the moment of truth... And to have the photoshoot just end like that, after all the months of waiting and buildup, just so we could waste time on the new girl and a date with Anya that both seemed like too much and too little imo... I dunno. It feels a bit sloppy to me, even if I like the story overall and was happy with the half of the photoshoot we did see.
I think this is one of the first times that everyone is coming to the same conclusion. The photoshoot was seriously hot and I wish more of the chapter revolved around Vi and Eric. Like Eric should have been there and Vi could have made a move on Bruce. A lot of lost potential.

Agree on the new girl. And a lot of the scenes felt very influenced by this games clone, SOA. Both had porn website scene, SOA introduced a dark skinned girl previously, and then the amazing photoshoot that suddenly turned into a SOA cameo. Idk if they are influencing this game or if this game is now copying SOA, but it all feels very forced and not in line with previous releases.
 

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I realize I'm probably just being selfish here, but I fully agree with the harem bit. Not every girl has to be drooling over MC, and I think it would be especially hot if there were characters (especially girls) who clearly dislike MC, who then used that dynamic to get Vi into "activities" without Eric being there, almost out of spite. That's why I kinda dug the way the Vi photoshoot scene was handled though; it takes a bit of that MC-centric lens away and gives Vi a bit more of her own agenda (besides just "hoo I wonder what Eric will think, I only want to do this because he wants me to").

I say it's selfish though because...I get it, I guess. I reckon "harem" as a genre is so popular because a lot of guys who play these games just by default insert themselves into the MC, and they all want a harem of sluts just hanging onto their dicks (or something). Basic fantasy fulfilment = happy brain chemicals. For me, it gets a bit tiring and boring to have everything be on MC's terms, and I love spontaneity, especially when somebody in a relationship makes their own choices, out of their own desires, even if it ends up being a "mistake" and it leads to fallout.


I kinda can't disagree about Anya, even though I really want to not care about that. Then again, I get it, we've had Anya secretly thirsting over MC since, what, the beginning? I think the scene being cut off because "oops it's in public hehe" was the developer sort of realizing it was maybe progressing too fast, but I dunno, sometimes people just let themselves go in the throes of passion. I personally think a quick (perhaps slightly regretful) BJ in a dressing room as a spur-of-the-moment thing would have been hotter, but I understand why it didn't happen (and why it shouldn't).

Also, I was thinking about the wig thing, as it might have been meant to hide Vi's identity (especially because she mentioned something earlier in the update about people recognizing her), if the BJ was photographed/filmed or whatever. Then again, the game could have played around this, because...it's Vi sending the photos. It would have been even hotter (in my opinion) if we actually got to see Vi sucking Luke's dick, with her normal hair, and then later on, Eric maybe finds out extra footage of Vi on one of the websites, and in that video, she's wearing the wig; showing that she didn't show Eric and Ari the actual footage that was shot, and the pictures that they got...were behind the scenes photos that she took herself, of her own accord, just to show them.

I dunno, there's a dozen different ways to do the photoshoot scene. I read something about a DLC that shows more of the photoshoot, and I low-key can't wait to see how it's done in there. I need to see more of that photoshoot either way, unless it ends up being "the girl in the wig isn't Vi". Everything else is gucci though.


She gave Sai a handjob, and they've been dancing around wanting to see Vi be more slutty for 6 fucking chapters. You guys are so weird and fragile with some mystical slow burn that should happen with Vi actually finally, what, using her mouth instead of her hands? It's weird you're even playing NTS games when any action the girl takes (oh, and let's not pretend it matters what Eric does, and how much consent and affirmation and confirmation he gets from Vi before doing anything with any girls, which is, uhh...none IIRC) should be preceded with, what, Vi getting on her knees and grovelling at Eric to please, Eric, dear future hubby, to let me briefly touch mine tongue upon this guy's dick? It's baffling to me that people seek out NTS games, and then have this kind of a reaction to, uh oh, something actually finally happening after 6 chapters of build-up.
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with this progress, i hope that the next updates will be more and more wild

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Eh... I think no new game update will pass without a wave of criticism and dissatisfaction.

I realize I'm probably just being selfish here, but I fully agree with the harem bit. Not every girl has to be drooling over MC, and I think it would be especially hot if there were characters (especially girls) who clearly dislike MC, who then used that dynamic to get Vi into "activities" without Eric being there, almost out of spite. That's why I kinda dug the way the Vi photoshoot scene was handled though; it takes a bit of that MC-centric lens away and gives Vi a bit more of her own agenda (besides just "hoo I wonder what Eric will think, I only want to do this because he wants me to").
It seems to me you're forgetting that the foundation of this game is NTS. The key difference is that NTS involves shared plans with Eric and for Eric, even when Vi takes the initiative. But what you described (actions "to spite him" and without his knowledge) is pure NTR, which goes against the spirit of the game.

We are following the story of a couple deeply attached to each other, not just "friends with benefits." Their entire dynamic is built on trust and mutual pleasure, not on hidden motives or a desire to hurt each other. That's precisely what distinguishes deep NTS from simple cheating.

As for complaints about the harem... It was stated earlier that the game will contain elements of various genres: harem, BBC, incest, etc. But this does not make the game about harem, incest, or BBC. These are all tools and colors used to reveal the main story the core NTS dynamic between Eric and Vi. All these elements serve a single purpose: to intensify the couple's already passionate relationship, meaning they do not contradict the main storyline. NTR, however, by its very nature, is aimed at destroying that relationship, and thus, completely contradicts it.

To expect the game to strictly adhere to a single genre is to ignore its original concept.

VI just sucks off the first guy he sees with a dick, just like that, without even discussing it with Eric. He just did something behind his back and that's it, and he doesn't even care, without even talking to him about this possibility. What kind of progression is this, going from 0 to 100 out of nowhere? This is much more NTR than NTS. Where's @SymbioticLife, who said this would always be NTS and never NTR? I know you said it could be more hardcore NTS, but for me and many others, what happened was pure NTR, and to have more hardcore NTS, there has to be evolution, not just happen out of nowhere with the first guy she sees, especially since they are still starting out and not at an advanced stage.
Perhaps you were a bit hasty in your conclusions, wmrxd. You are assuming that it's definitely Vi in the photo and that she did it behind Eric's back. But we don't yet know exactly what happened during the photoshoot. We aren't even sure it was her perhaps the author is just teasing the players, creating intrigue. It could have been a montage, a prank, or simply a misleading camera angle. To call this "pure NTR" now is to condemn the plot without having seen the scene to the end. It's better to wait for the next update to see the full picture before drawing conclusions.
 

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i don't care about ntr or nts

i find it funny that nt-lmnopqrs fans like to fight so much

is that the real kink? fighting with other nt fans?

i liked the art and liked the anya story. don't care about vi story but dont hate it either

again i just don't want this to become a noncon game. dev - if eric is going to be dom he needs to learn safewords
 

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Eh... I think no new game update will pass without a wave of criticism and dissatisfaction.


It seems to me you're forgetting that the foundation of this game is NTS. The key difference is that NTS involves shared plans with Eric and for Eric, even when Vi takes the initiative. But what you described (actions "to spite him" and without his knowledge) is pure NTR, which goes against the spirit of the game.

We are following the story of a couple deeply attached to each other, not just "friends with benefits." Their entire dynamic is built on trust and mutual pleasure, not on hidden motives or a desire to hurt each other. That's precisely what distinguishes deep NTS from simple cheating.

As for complaints about the harem... It was stated earlier that the game will contain elements of various genres: harem, BBC, incest, etc. But this does not make the game about harem, incest, or BBC. These are all tools and colors used to reveal the main story the core NTS dynamic between Eric and Vi. All these elements serve a single purpose: to intensify the couple's already passionate relationship, meaning they do not contradict the main storyline. NTR, however, by its very nature, is aimed at destroying that relationship, and thus, completely contradicts it.

To expect the game to strictly adhere to a single genre is to ignore its original concept.


Perhaps you were a bit hasty in your conclusions, wmrxd. You are assuming that it's definitely Vi in the photo and that she did it behind Eric's back. But we don't yet know exactly what happened during the photoshoot. We aren't even sure it was her perhaps the author is just teasing the players, creating intrigue. It could have been a montage, a prank, or simply a misleading camera angle. To call this "pure NTR" now is to condemn the plot without having seen the scene to the end. It's better to wait for the next update to see the full picture before drawing conclusions.
I agree with everything you said, so I think I really rushed, reading some other comments I realized that it could be something like that you said, but I had just played and wrote kind of hot-headed, so I think you're right, I don't think the DEV would do something like that, he's too good to make a scene like that out of nowhere, I think it was a provocation or something like that, like you said, and in the next update of the game we will be surprised and it will be something else and not her doing that, and my comment will only be valid if it is actually her, something that I don't think it will be.
 

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Was a great update to me, just a bit frustrated about the nts scene through a phone with some pictures. The photoshoot and Ari scenes were very hot tho. Hope we get to see Vi's pov during the bj, when she'll tell what happened to Eric in a future update.
 
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Man, you have your opinion, I have mine, simple. For me and many others, what happened was too fast and without any planning, it was literally out of nowhere, without any conversation, which is the basis of every relationship that has NTS. That's why several people said it was much more NTR than NTS. There would be no problem with the scene happening if it had been planned between both of them, and not the way it happened. I don't have a problem with her being more open. My problem is that she, with the first guy she saw alone, sucked him out of nowhere, without mentioning that they are just starting this type of relationship and this would be her first experience. That's why I found it all so strange that this happened kind of out of nowhere. And when you talk about 6 chapters, you forget that only a few days passed in the game and the 6 chapters didn't focus only on the couple. But again, my problem isn't the scene, but how it was set up. If it had been something discussed between both of them, for me and many others, it would have been much better than for her to simply go from 0 to 100 out of nowhere and become a slut in the blink of an eye.
I have to agree here this felt Meh to me the communication just kind of died and she's doing whatever now she will become a porn star at this rate while it seemed to be where it was heading anyways her sucking a dick without him being involved was a major jump and goes into NTR not NTS. As for Eric he's not really any better since he messed with his sis a bit and then Ariana, however Ariana tricked him and told him Vi was coming so there is manipulation happening here, while Vi is just being a slut.

While Eric says he is gonna talk to Vi about this i hope it's handled well and she listens to him and its not just brushed away, unless this game is going to end with her just being a whore and her and Eric breaking up
 
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I have to agree here this felt Meh to me the communication just kind of died and she's doing whatever now she will become a porn star at this rate while it seemed to be where it was heading anyways her sucking a dick without him being involved was a major jump and goes into NTR not NTS. As for Eric he's not really any better since he messed with his sis a bit and then Ariana, however Ariana tricked him and told him Vi was coming so there is manipulation happening here, while Vi is just being a slut.

While Eric says he is gonna talk to Vi about this i hope it's handled well and she listens to him and its not just brushed away, unless this game is going to end with her just being a whore and her and Eric breaking up
True. This update made Eric look like or turning into a weak "cuck". He is supposed to be a power cuck! What is happening to my boooiiiii.
 

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I have to agree here this felt Meh to me the communication just kind of died and she's doing whatever now she will become a porn star at this rate while it seemed to be where it was heading anyways her sucking a dick without him being involved was a major jump and goes into NTR not NTS. As for Eric he's not really any better since he messed with his sis a bit and then Ariana, however Ariana tricked him and told him Vi was coming so there is manipulation happening here, while Vi is just being a slut.

While Eric says he is gonna talk to Vi about this i hope it's handled well and she listens to him and its not just brushed away, unless this game is going to end with her just being a whore and her and Eric breaking up
I think the final scene was meant to be a cliffhanger. As it stands now, it appears to be ntr. With the photos, of course, but also the way Vi essentially dedicated herself to the photographer over the MC, while in the studio.
It could still lead to several outcomes. I'll give Circlegames the benefit of the doubt at this point, he's good at this kind of thing. It could be as simple as a conversation about limits and what going too far is, or removing boundaries. Whatever happens, I believe it will be handled well.
 

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Are cliffhangers that may potentially anger and push supporters away a good strategy, though?

Personally, I'm not shocked if Vi sucked some cock without "asking permission". What I'd like is for the next episode to show that she did it with the intent of teasing the MC, not in complete disregard for him. Free use is the most boring kind of NTS, where the MC stumbles upon his girl fucking other guys and himself fucks every other girl without a thought for his gf. That's a "relationship in name only". To me, the only point of sharing is the dynamic within the couple. If this game is going to be focused on "girlfriend corruption" and not on how both partners tease each other to a rage and fuck hungrily afterwards, then it might as well go full NTR, for all I care - I'll be out, don't enjoy true cuckold MCs, but at least fans of NTR will have their fill. Nothing shocking here, but also no appeal whatsoever to me. I see no eroticism in "Free love", "free use" or polyamory. Also, seeing an attractive girl become an air-brained bimbo isn't my thing, cheating or no cheating.

So here's to hoping that the cliffhanger resolves in a good way for the couple. I like sharing as a dynamic within a monogamic relationship, with the kink being on playing with each other, and third parties' expectations.
 
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