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im going throw some chum in the water

but im not just trolling i think this is true

the dev is using a trial balloon

he wants to see if people like the blonde vi scene or not

if people like it he will say it was real

if people hate it he will say it was someone else
I don't think that was his intention at all. I think he plans on dropping another DLC like he did after the last episode showing what actually happened with Violet, Luke, and Bruce during the last part of the photo shoot. It's a pretty smart idea if you want to keep patreons from unsubscribing for the whole time between chapter updates.
 
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ilkit1234

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I don't think that was his intention at all. I think he plans on dropping another DLC like he did after the last episode showing what actually happened with Violet, Luke, and Bruce during the last part of the photo shoot. It's a pretty smart idea if you want to keep patreons from unsubscribing for the whole time between chapter updates.
That could be part of it. But he kept delaying for weeks. Probably a time management issue and rushing to put in some sort of an ending. Pretty much how it's gone with every release.
 

BillyRook

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I hope CircleGames ignores the NTS haters, the photoshoot was the hottest scene, with Eric looking up pictures of Vi being the second hottest. Most of the time I go into an update feeling like i know what scene I'm hoping for, but Vi's internal monologue and her whole scene while submitting to Bruce was so fucking hot and well written, it was the scene i didnt even know i wanted. Highlight of the chapter for sure.

I loved the dynamic between Vi and Bruce so i hope Vi's side of the blowjob scene will show Bruce being in charge and Vi obeying him and loving it, with Luke mostly just also following Bruce's commands. Its way hotter if the person she's truly submitting to psychologically is Bruce not Luke.

Not a fan of the look with the wig but im very glad Vi got some oral action and i bet the wig is just Vi wanting some semblance of deniability while she pushes her boundaries on camera. Her wig happening to be silver-white wouldve looked better and also been really fun because of the crossover with shadows of ambition, maybe wouldve given Luke a thrill because of the accidental similarity with Alice.

I hope that even though we didnt see any sign of it yet, Anya paid attention to the fact that Eric was jerking off to Blacked. It could give Anya some interesting ideas about what Eric likes and maybe push her in that direction. Also theres an opportunity for Eric to act as the corruptor instead of the person being corrupted, with Anya, if he admits his bbc curiosity to her eventually. It would present some variety compared to most other characters acting more like corruptors towards Eric and Vi.

The only scene i didnt like in this chapter was the final scene with Ari. It felt like the dev wanted to reassure the vanilla insecure harem crowd that Eric is still the cliche gigachad who always has the upper hand, but it kind of ended up diluting the impact of Eric seeing Vi's first NTS blowjob which imo should be more emphasized as a really hot milestone. Its funny seeing people pissed about the bj as if Vi isnt just doing what her and Eric already talked about, but then those same people not mentioning Eric just fucked Ari's pussy and ass.

My hope when Eric showed up at Ari's place was that Ari would verbally tease him in her usual NTS-corruptor fashion while giving him a handjob and checking out the updates from Vi.

We will see what the next content update brings but overall i loved the update, the quality is insanely good and the Ari scene is the only writing i disliked. Easily a 8/10 chapter at least, with the overall game being a 9 at least. The dev time was a bit long and my main concern now is whether were going to spend a lot of time with smaller updates and side stories or go to the next chapter more quickly than last time. Hopefully the next chapter, after the current one is finalized.
 

erorr

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This latest update was much better than the latest update of Shadows of Ambition for me and I don't know exactly why. Feels like Shadows of Ambition sort of lost the nuance of the netorase and is focused on too many other things. This game feels more succinct and with a more clear purpose. I dunno, anyone feel the same?
 

jwhu

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Does anyone know why URM is causing errors/crashing with this game the last few updates? Used to work fine before.
Edit- I tried deleting the URM file and now have a message permanently on screen on every render saying,
could not find file 0x52 -URM/image/textboxGradient.x52 as you can see in the attached image. Problem is i cannot open URM in game to remove the textbox as it just causes an error when try. Never has this issue with any other renpy game.
 
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Ronjonsurf69

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I've been playing the old version for a long time before the reworks and even then, there was a feeling that this game was more cucoldry than pure NTS.
VI as a character began to push away with her behavior, her cuteness is lost in her desire to become everyone's slut. Eric is her boyfriend aseems to be characterized as strong, but this does not change the fact that he is a cuckold.
He wants to see her on porn websites and not just advertising underwear, which would be more or less acceptable,but he have desire to see her on the Blacket website. A white guy wants to see his girlfriend doing solo or maybe group sex with black guys.
Yeah, give Eric a chair.
This excites him, he talks about how others fuck her and how he punishes her after..,
Ahem, Ahem.
Take off this guy's rose-colored glasses, after she's been used as a porn star multiple times, her hole is unlikely to satisfy anyone with its tightness!
The dev of the game is playing unfairly with players. It features cute characters that turn into sluts in a matter of seconds!
Before this, Eric didn't want Vi to be like Ari,but Vi will be even worse!
Why hasn't the dev delayed the update and released it fully ready? Everyone's already been waiting for it for so long!
In fact, the content of this update is less than the content of two DLCs...
Why?
Eric offended Anya, the dev could continue her content from their trips to the cinema and there she could already suck him off, but Anya was offended by him and now she will go to Rob and do something with him...
VI did something bad and invites Eric to Ari...
This scene was so bad, to be honest, it was completely imbued with cuckoldry.
Vi undresses without her boyfriend's permission and takes pictures, she was already ready to give the photographer a blow job, but Luke showed up. And she immediately took his cock deep into her mouth and balls, but Eric doesn't feel anxious, he likes it...
If we draw a parallel between the two projects, Luke is more of a man than Eric. Luke is an "alpha", Eric is a "beta" cuckold.
Luke is present in NTS scenes with Alice, Eric masturbates to his girlfriend's on porn sites...
Why all these collaborations?
There would be two independent projects. Even if they only intersect slightly in passing without sex scenes.
It's just that all this creates such dissonance.
Eric fuck Alice when she decides to become a star of Oglyfans?
Will Vi be on Oglyphans?
Will she be there filming with Eric or will Luke take the lead and the protagonist will get the chair?
I'm not even talking about all the BBC characters and how the dev portrays them!
The update after such a long period was simply disappointing!
There's practically no Vi in the update, just a couple of selfies of her sucking Luke's dick. Well, there would at least be video files of this.
The dev will again be reworking the content he worked on for a long time, editing and adding scenes.
He doesn't have beta testers, does he delegate this work to the players?
This story is increasingly moving towards cuckoldry and it is very repulsive.
So, those of you who love NTS, please answer me: did you like how the dev is making progress whit Vi?
Do you like that Vi and Eric don't share, but have sex separately?
Do you like the cuckolding direction or would it be better if it was more like scenes in Shadows?
You're right, at the end of the day it's just a porn game though. I don't have feelings for this character or anything plus it's just ai art. It's not my favorite game at all, I just download it bust a nut and then delete it. Sure there are some hot scenes and pictures but the dialogue can be mostly skipped as it is very highschool drama oriented. Yeah you're right about it being more cuck like. Who knows maybe they are delaying the full update to get another month on patreon I guess. It's not my favorite story, but it's hot when they start dancing on stripper poles and whatever. Would be funny if they made the sister join a step siblings porn site, but honestly that sounds like the end of Eric's life. He'd lose like every body in the long run. He'd just lost himself to porn basically.
 

JarrenBlake

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I don't comment much on the updates here, but have looked at the reviews for the latest update and so forth. Off the top, not a fan of NTR and I see NTS in a completely different vein. So I typically skip these titles. However wanted to give some NTS ones another chance and landed on here one of a few cases. So far, its been ok. More themes of cheating, which is meh for me, than swinging or NTS which I enjoy. The scene with Sai, Erik, Ari, and Vi is my style for this genre type. All are together making choices. If VI had jump Sai, then and there, that would have been a ok. Erik doing behind the back stuff and now Vi at the photo shoot, all around bad update for my tastes. My two cents would be that the both of them explored the initial encounters with other people together step by step leading to full swing. After than they could do solo stuff without the other always present.

In my old age I am finding I probably am just a romance or a multi couple title type. So I preferred Erik and VI being a ride couple, but that erodes with VI seemingly submitting more and more to the photog. While Erik waffles between bullied and hyper aggression. Still, I am going to continue to give this title a shot, as I think Harems are trite and author's tie themselves into knots to make it make sense. Swinging and NTS make more sense to me, just hate cheating and NTR. Myself I am looking for a game where the focus is a couple that is solid, together, and mutually kinky. This update was opposite of that. So count me in the camp that VI pulled a fast one and was not the actual BJ girl but set it up with Ari to drive Erik into her friend's bed. Then they can all do a proper swing or NTS with Erik returning the "favor" by pairing her with one of the other male char. Pref Sai at this point, cause stranger stuff bores me, but that is just my two cents.
 

Avaron1974

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Oooh that's a really good guess tho. I have completely forgot about it if its true it might be a really smart move to piss off half of the guys here who don't want to see Vi pounded by other male characters.
The game is about netorase, it says it in the description.

She's going to fuck other people and he will enjoy it, that's the entire game.

Anyone not wanting her to fuck others is going to be shit out of luck.

From intimate encounters with Violet to encounters with other captivating characters, the game offers a variety of sensual experiences that cater to a diverse range of tastes in the NTS/NTR world.

For now his game is a Kinetic Novel ( nothing will be avoidable )
Vi will follow a NTS route ( sharing, swing, exhibitionism )
Good luck with not seeing her fuck other men.

I R Amused.
 
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reidanota

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Does anyone know why URM is causing errors/crashing with this game the last few updates? Used to work fine before.
Edit- I tried deleting the URM file and now have a message permanently on screen on every render saying,
could not find file 0x52 -URM/image/textboxGradient.x52 as you can see in the attached image. Problem is i cannot open URM in game to remove the textbox as it just causes an error when try. Never has this issue with any other renpy game.
Grab Unren, follow the instructions there to place the bat file in the game's "game" directory and run it. The only archive there will be URM so the batch will unpack it. For some reason, while running along this game, URM fails to access its assets in the archive.

BTW this is a KN, so URM won't do much here - I still like and use features such as the progress meter.
 
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jwhu

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Grab Unren, follow the instructions there to place the bat file in the game's "game" directory and run it. The only archive there will be URM so the batch will unpack it. For some reason, while running along this game, URM fails to access its assets in the archive.

BTW this is a KN, so URM won't do much here - I still like and use features such as the progress meter.
This fixed my game, thanks! I know its KN, I was mainly using it for name changing, textbox options etc
 

Arras1

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We all complain on slow pace of game but , to my mind , it had been better for nts way if VI just show boobs photoshoot with a permition of Eric. Its too slow , we all hate the developer again, but it continues the story better. And now all hardcore scenes with Erik Luke Vi and Ari look like "shut up haters. You want sex - take it".
about Anya - i dont like this character, so scene isnt interesting for me. And also its the same as Vi scene at the 1 or 2 second chapter ,but worse. There was fine teasing with nts elenents like in all such type games. Why we need the same in ch 6 with DRAMA I dont understand , really.
 

reidanota

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In my old age I am finding I probably am just a romance or a multi couple title type. So I preferred Erik and VI being a ride couple, but that erodes with VI seemingly submitting more and more to the photog. While Erik waffles between bullied and hyper aggression.
I agree with you on these couple of issues. One is Eric going behind Vi's back, if it's not done out of mutual teasing/daring. It could be a dynamic between them, that they pushed each other to be more daring, but if Eric doesn't even tell Vi about what he's doing, then it's simply cheating, or free pass if Vi told him she doesn't care. The second aspect is where you refer that Vi might be submitting to the photographer. While that's not necessarily outside of NTS scope, submissiveness towards characters perceived as rivals, be it from the MC or the FMC, has a definitively cuckish vibe. If the rival, beyong being built up as a plausible threat, actually suceeds, we enter a sort of fetish that I don't have and can't really appreciate.

A theme not exclusive to MNGF, the main characters are placed in turbulent waters, with plenty of strong willed characters around them trying to corrupt them or nudge them in some direction. While that definitely works creating initial tension, to me it works best if the main characters slowly learn to navigate it (getting to know the other characters, expect their antics, riposte) even if greater challenges keep coming. I dislike it when there's not just suggestion of risk, but a constant feeling that either the MC and FMC will be pulled away. Would definitely consider a "bad ending" scenario if a dominant male other than the MC ended up seducing and leading the FMC to do things to his benefit. I'd find it much more appealing if Vi were always dominant in her relations with other guys, and acted towards her benefit and her main reward were Eric's reaction, not the "bull"'s performance. This isn't to say she couldn't play along with a dominant male just to tease Eric, but I'd hate to see her just succumb to their advances.

If it matters, I like games that progress towards the satisfaction of the main character(s) - their kinks, their desires, their victory over obstacles or adversaries. I don't like to experience extreme jealousy, defeat or helplessness. While valid, that's not the entertainment I'm out for. This is much more important to me than text book definitions of NTR and NTS. If there's cheating, but it somehow works to strengthen the couple in a kinky way, and ultimately increases their satisfaction, that's cool, whereas consent given because the character fears they won't be able to keep their partner if they don't give in, feels defeatish. Psychologically, I think hard NTR and cuckoldry are much more tied togetehr than cuckoldry and stag, regardless of definitions.
 
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im going throw some chum in the water

but im not just trolling i think this is true

the dev is using a trial balloon

he wants to see if people like the blonde vi scene or not

if people like it he will say it was real

if people hate it he will say it was someone else
If this is true, it will ruin the whole concept of Vi and her career on porn sites.
Why does she need an ideological rival?
She likes that people admire her, she likes that people have already found her on social networks and are writing messages to her, some even offer her services for money.
 
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