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yourmomma

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I don't want to get embroiled in an argument over this stuff ever again, but I feel like a lot of lines of dialogue are being missed.


"But I shouldn't be scared!"
"The trust we have in each other..."
"...the love we have..."
"...isn't something that can be shaken so easily"


"I have no problem with it!"
"Fuck it! I love it!"
"I want it! I crave it!"
"The eyes...the attention..."
"With Eric's support...I feel like I can do anything!"


"Fuck! It's gonna happen..."
"My first shoot with an actual male model"
"And from what Bruce said..."
"...it looks like he's a big deal..."
"Eric...I wish you were here..."
"...seeing this...seeing me...telling me what to do..."
"I'm sorry, babe...things might get a little heated..."
(This last thought is the last we get from her)

Saying Eric is irrelevant to her thoughts is false. But her thoughts are conflicted, to contradict my own argument let's have some other thoughts of hers in the same scene.


"I'm sorry...I can't stop it..."
"My body...my true self..."
"All of me wants to be bad!"
"Bad for a man who isn't my boyfriend"
"For a man who's old enough to be my dad..."


"The tension between us today is...something else..."
"It's different from what I feel with Eric"
"Maybe because he's older and...well..."
"...not my boyfriend..."


"Because of my boyfriend?"
"No, dear Bruce...it's not because of him"
"I just love the tease!"
"And so does Eric..."
"He wants what I want...for me to let go..."
"But here...under the camera..."
"It feels different...more real!"
"Eric gives me permission...Bruce takes it..."
"And that's exactly what I want!"

Which obviously gives a slightly different impression, so people will have to find out next time more of Vi's thoughts. I think everyone should just chill out a bit and wait and see. Making guesses and discussing is obviously great. But making assumptions about all sorts of things - which are often very off base from what CG has openly discussed let alone what he has said privately in the past - isn't really very helpful.



Definitely is a love story, albeit not one that is remotely vanilla. It's not the primary focus, it is first and foremost a porn game which I think is a strength, as it has enough character drama (romance, family, friends etc) to make people interested in the characters without getting super bogged down.

Again, I don't want either group to get the wrong impression, because I see both sides of this argument being wrong about different aspects. It's super fun to guess where a story is going to go that you're interested in, or what scenes might make it in. But the game is not really meant to be a game with a negative vibe, even if it has some drama at times.
Dialogue alot of people are over looking. Thanks for that. I posted some quotes earlier and still people chose to ignore them. They only see what they want to see.

Yes, after I posted this I ran it through my brain noodle and could have worded that better, but irl happened and I haven't been able to get back until now. It would have been better worded as, " not the love story you want it to be. " or something to that affect. Erik and Vi definitely have a bond, but it's not the typical love story.
 

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For me, the dynamic between Vi and Bruce feels extremely strange — it seems like he has a kind of power over her that’s equal to or even greater than Eric’s. Vi simply does everything he wants, admires the way he talks to her, and even her inner thoughts reflect that. It’s as if he can control her however he wants — and the weirdest part is that she enjoys it, just like she does with Eric. Bruce ends up being as much of a catalyst as her actual boyfriend, which I find pretty disturbing. I think it’s wrong for someone to have that kind of power in a relationship. On top of that, all those thoughts that Symbiotic brings up during the filming seem to clash with who Vi really is. Because of all that, I consider this arc — mainly because of the power dynamic between Bruce and Vi — the weakest one in the story.
Who Vi really is according to the pedestal you guys have put her on. Vi isn't being very submissive. She was making a lot of suggestions to Bruce almost practically guiding the direction herself. If anything Bruce was just encouraging that side of her to come out. One big example, I've repeated many times, is how Ceical wanted to leave and not be involved in the porn shoot. It was Vi, not Bruce, who convinced him stay. That is not the behavior of a submissive woman.
She's also the one who orchestrated Ari's and Erik's sexapade. Vi exercises more control and persuasion than you guys are giving her credit for.
 
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Vi isn't being very submissive.
I get the impression that Vi wants to be on a leash, not holding one.

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B: Now look at the camera... bite your lip and... play with your tits for me!

V: What!? Play... Play with my tits?

B: You heard me. Unless you think it's too much for you...

V: Absolutely not! I just didn't expect you to ask me that so boldly that's all. But, if that's what you want...

Fuck! I can't control anything anymore!
He's pulling the strings now and I...
I can't say no! I don't wanna say no!
No more holding back!
I know he's as horny as I am!
 

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Who Vi really is according to the pedestal you guys have put her on. Vi isn't being very submissive. She was making a lot of suggestions to Bruce almost practically guiding the direction herself. If anything Bruce was just encouraging that side of her to come out. One big example, I've repeated many times, is how Ceical wanted to leave and not be involved in the porn shoot. It was Vi, not Bruce, who convinced him stay. That is not the behavior of a submissive woman.
She's also the one who orchestrated Ari's and Erik's sexapade. Vi exercises more control and persuasion than you guys are giving her credit for.
Well, I don't think I even need to answer you, the guy above already answered you, but I think we have very different views and maybe even when we read something we interpret it differently because I read the whole scene and the thoughts she has and what Symbiotic posted and I understood something and you seem to have understood it differently, either you have a different interpretation than us, or you just want your point to be proven and don't care about anything.
 

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I get the impression that Vi wants to be on a leash, not holding one.

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B: Now look at the camera... bite your lip and... play with your tits for me!

V: What!? Play... Play with my tits?

B: You heard me. Unless you think it's too much for you...

V: Absolutely not! I just didn't expect you to ask me that so boldly that's all. But, if that's what you want...

Fuck! I can't control anything anymore!
He's pulling the strings now and I...
I can't say no! I don't wanna say no!
No more holding back!
I know he's as horny as I am!
I'm about to go to bed, so I'm not going open the game up,but if I remember correctly after that bit of dialogue she becomes more aggressive.

Well, I don't think I even need to answer you, the guy above already answered you, but I think we have very different views and maybe even when we read something we interpret it differently because I read the whole scene and the thoughts she has and what Symbiotic posted and I understood something and you seem to have understood it differently, either you have a different interpretation than us, or you just want your point to be proven and don't care about anything.
That's not true. If people make good points I agree with them. Maybe she's not as aggressive as I'm implying, but she's certainly also not as demure as you guys are implying. Vi has a naughty side to her that some people choose to ignore.
 

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if I remember correctly after that bit of dialogue she becomes more aggressive.
She tells Bruce it's not fair how turned on he's making her. Vi plays with her tits for him as instructed, for a set of full nude photos Eric still hasn't seen. Then I'm assuming she begins to suggest they fool around ("I was thinking...maybe we could...") before Bruce lets a famous male porn star walk onto Vi's "safe and professional" set. He suggests she rub Cedric's dick and balls all over her face for a set she can tell Eric about later ("Look at her! Are you really gonna say no to that? Have you become too famous now to work with us?"). Vi does what Bruce asks again but is slightly bolder about it.
 

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I'm about to go to bed, so I'm not going open the game up,but if I remember correctly after that bit of dialogue she becomes more aggressive.


That's not true. If people make good points I agree with them. Maybe she's not as aggressive as I'm implying, but she's certainly also not as demure as you guys are implying. Vi has a naughty side to her that some people choose to ignore.
Being submissive doesn't mean being completely passive in any circumstance, doesn't mean completely lacking any sort of aggressivity either.

Both Vi and Eric are submissives

Eric manifests it for the most part in his non-fetish life, he's more then fine to be led around by the nose, by pretty much everyone, even his younger sister, but he absolutely is not submissive when it comes down to sex/lewd stuff.

Vi absolutely loves being on a leash (and as such more submissive), but only while having sex/lewd stuff, that's what triggers her during the photoshoot, not Bruce as himself, but Bruce as the older guy who can tell her what to do, same as Eric does when they have sex, during the daily life thou, she's all but submissive, she's the one wearing the pants in the relationship.

A perfect couple, so long as Eric keeps being dominant during sex.
 
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"Look at her! Are you really gonna say no to that? Have you become too famous now to work with us?". Vi does what Bruce asks again but is slightly bolder about it.
I don't why, you are missing the part after that, when she herself proceeds to encourage him even more. At that momet Bruce only suggests to join them, but Vi well... is Vi.

vi"Come on...Cedric was your name?"
vi"You heard the man"
vi"We could really use you..."
vi"I could really use you..."
vi"...don't pretend you don't want to"

Only after that he's fully onboard. We may interpet it as obidience but I incline more into Vi being a tease.(so some part of control remains)
 

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Fuck! I can't control anything anymore!
He's pulling the strings now and I...
I can't say no! I don't wanna say no!
No more holding back!
I know he's as horny as I am!
interesting ... so she was indeed super horny , this is why i like the game with choices , something like "Go for it" "Stop before it too late" , so personally IF i was on edge i'll Definitely go for it , moments after the relieve & my blood rush back to my brain instead of my D i'll go back and stop it (does it make sense ?).

tho what i see it disturbing (little bit?) is that she wasn't just pushing boundaries to relive her self , she was trying to connect not just Physically but also emotionally [i won't call it LOVE for sure , it something different , maybe she wish that was her Dad ? as we know , the real one treat her badly ("and i wish he have a role on stopping her from going full por*star , not into this path specially when MC is not part of it compared to Luke , & i hope you guys respect that :)")] .

so Next time Erik , Please f*ck her brains out before she meet someone else , now that we know what she is capable of when she's horny :sneaky: , coz a black guy will break her completely :LOL: /s
 

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Who Vi really is according to the pedestal you guys have put her on. Vi isn't being very submissive. She was making a lot of suggestions to Bruce almost practically guiding the direction herself. If anything Bruce was just encouraging that side of her to come out. One big example, I've repeated many times, is how Ceical wanted to leave and not be involved in the porn shoot. It was Vi, not Bruce, who convinced him stay. That is not the behavior of a submissive woman.
She's also the one who orchestrated Ari's and Erik's sexapade. Vi exercises more control and persuasion than you guys are giving her credit for.
This is the main problem of character creation. The author came up with and said what kind of character it is, BUT shows it different character .
I think this is the problem of the author himself and how he understands what kind of character he created for the character.
 

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I'd say that's bullshit. There is nothing wrong with the character developing, BUT when the author writes (Vi will follow a NTS route sharing, swing, exhibitionism) then he should follow this path or let him declare that everything has changed. :geek:
It's not bullshit, you're just mad the dev isn't writing characters to the way you think they should be written.
interesting ... so she was indeed super horny , this is why i like the game with choices , something like "Go for it" "Stop before it too late" , so personally IF i was on edge i'll Definitely go for it , moments after the relieve & my blood rush back to my brain instead of my D i'll go back and stop it (does it make sense ?).

tho what i see it disturbing (little bit?) is that she wasn't just pushing boundaries to relive her self , she was trying to connect not just Physically but also emotionally [i won't call it LOVE for sure , it something different , maybe she wish that was her Dad ? as we know , the real one treat her badly ("and i wish he have a role on stopping her from going full por*star , not into this path specially when MC is not part of it compared to
I don't why, you are missing the part after that, when she herself proceeds to encourage him even more. At that momet Bruce only suggests to join them, but Vi well... is Vi.

vi"Come on...Cedric was your name?"
vi"You heard the man"
vi"We could really use you..."
vi"I could really use you..."
vi"...don't pretend you don't want to"

Only after that he's fully onboard. We may interpet it as obidience but I incline more into Vi being a tease.(so some part of control remains)
My man, with the assist!
 

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BUT when the author writes (Vi will follow a NTS route sharing, swing, exhibitionism) then he should follow this path or let him declare that everything has changed
tbf everything till Ch5 was nts , Ch6 tho (most heated chapter imo) seems...more chaotic ?? leaning little bit towards conflict/betrayal btw main characters ?? (idk how to describe perfectly this last chapter tbh , hell even Dev himself had to make few changes :LOL:).

i love me some drama but how far this drama will go ? will Vi come to her sense when she is stable/not Horny ? or push even further and spread her legs for money/fame ? :unsure: :oops: , well , not matter what the outcome Erik will still likes it (last sentence was sarcasm sorry :p )
 
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