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There's a balance, yes maybe there should have been a clearer discussion between MC and Violet about where the line is and maybe he should have been there for that particular event (which is why CircleGames turned it down a bit in the Silver release) but also if you really want literally every new step in the NTS to be preceded by an obligatory "yes we both agree to this" dialogue that's gonna get boring fast.

It's not NTR because Violet going further has been discussed and approved by the MC at several points.
 

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I remember a discussion regarding stories in video games (normal ones I mean). A very progressive person was arging that we need a trigger warning just before a scene happens if it contains anything that could upset the player, like a suicide scene (even if there were already warnings on the game's jacket). The other one, who I happen to agree with, argued that it killed the impact of any scene with shocking content for everyone else, as you're basically spoiled before anything happens.
I see some parallels between that and the problem you guys are talking about, which is in short is the fact if the characters need to discuss every single thing just before it happens (even if they already reached an understanding prior to that), there won't be much surprise or excitement. Several nts games tend (or tended idk) to be overly safe so that it never feels ntr-ish in any way and at any point, to avoid upsetting a large part of their public. But I also think that collaterally, it has a negative impact on the story for the reason mentioned above. That being said, I understand it's also a matter of taste.
 
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There's a balance, yes maybe there should have been a clearer discussion between MC and Violet about where the line is and maybe he should have been there for that particular event (which is why CircleGames turned it down a bit in the Silver release) but also if you really want literally every new step in the NTS to be preceded by an obligatory "yes we both agree to this" dialogue that's gonna get boring fast.

It's not NTR because Violet going further has been discussed and approved by the MC at several points.
What's the balance? The contradiction between the dialogues and the development of events? If so, then I agree that dialogues about one event about another are a kind of theater of the absurd. And it all started with the "going to the club" addition (when the author sat down on two chairs).
For those who don't believe it, start the game from the beginning and feel how the plot develops up to this point and after (it starts with a milking machine with meaningless dialogues and events without events)

And the climax of the nonsense, for me, was the photo shoot, which had a really good opening and a dialogue between V and Bruce that fits the game and the plot. But then a RANDOM guy shows up and she gives him a blow job!!! What kind of stupidity is this???
And when subscribers expressed dissatisfaction, the author decided to change the scene and replaced the character from his second game with another RANDOM guy LOL. The only problem is that it's a RANDOM guy(author doesn't understand this).

If Vi had given Bruce a blow job, that would fit the plot. And she could have easily explained it like Bruce does so much for her, earns her money, and she's just taking pictures. And she gave him a blow-job as a "thank you." Bruce isn't a random character, but a character involved in the plot, but no, the author throws in an extra, unnecessary character.

So it's better to have it be boring but with a logical plot than absurd. Logically, if V is walking home after a photo shoot and sees two guys in an alley, it wouldn't be strange if she gave them blow jobs too. More sex scenes are fun (but no, that's just stupid). And besides, the game already has a brainless slut ready to take any guy's dick.
 

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What's the balance? The contradiction between the dialogues and the development of events?
Where? Please elaborate..
If so, then I agree that dialogues about one event about another are a kind of theater of the absurd. And it all started with the "going to the club" addition (when the author sat down on two chairs).
For those who don't believe it, start the game from the beginning and feel how the plot develops up to this point and after (it starts with a milking machine with meaningless dialogues and events without events)
Strongly disagree. Events just for events - very intresting take, I think almost all kind literature does it. Basic example, you go with friends to the club just for the sake of it, or to have fun. Fundamentally wrongsome thinking.

And the climax of the nonsense, for me, was the photo shoot, which had a really good opening and a dialogue between V and Bruce that fits the game and the plot. But then a RANDOM guy shows up and she gives him a blow job!!! What kind of stupidity is this???
And when subscribers expressed dissatisfaction, the author decided to change the scene and replaced the character from his second game with another RANDOM guy LOL. The only problem is that it's a RANDOM guy(author doesn't understand this).
He is not that random because he is a pornstar on a pornshoot studio. He randomly appiered out of nowhere - yes.(just for the sake of the plot) It is not yet a finished product, how do you know what meaning and what part this "rando" will have later on?

If Vi had given Bruce a blow job, that would fit the plot. And she could have easily explained it like Bruce does so much for her, earns her money, and she's just taking pictures. And she gave him a blow-job as a "thank you." Bruce isn't a random character, but a character involved in the plot, but no, the author throws in an extra, unnecessary character.
Kind of agree about BJ Bruce part,(he could've get some reward and he would've if not a rando) but I'm sure he will get some piece of Vi later on in the game.
So it's better to have it be boring but with a logical plot than absurd. Logically, if V is walking home after a photo shoot and sees two guys in an alley, it wouldn't be strange if she gave them blow jobs too. More sex scenes are fun (but no, that's just stupid). And besides, the game already has a brainless slut ready to take any guy's dick.
Boring - never, that's not about 100% accuracy textbook science, it is all about the fun and intrigue, both are present.

Things just happened, except them or just move on. Globally what have it changed so much that you didn't like - nothing. Vi will be whored out even more,she will be corrupted even more, alsmost sure she will start to engage with strangers at some point, it's just a matter of time.
 
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What's the balance? The contradiction between the dialogues and the development of events? If so, then I agree that dialogues about one event about another are a kind of theater of the absurd. And it all started with the "going to the club" addition (when the author sat down on two chairs).
For those who don't believe it, start the game from the beginning and feel how the plot develops up to this point and after (it starts with a milking machine with meaningless dialogues and events without events)

And the climax of the nonsense, for me, was the photo shoot, which had a really good opening and a dialogue between V and Bruce that fits the game and the plot. But then a RANDOM guy shows up and she gives him a blow job!!! What kind of stupidity is this???
And when subscribers expressed dissatisfaction, the author decided to change the scene and replaced the character from his second game with another RANDOM guy LOL. The only problem is that it's a RANDOM guy(author doesn't understand this).

If Vi had given Bruce a blow job, that would fit the plot. And she could have easily explained it like Bruce does so much for her, earns her money, and she's just taking pictures. And she gave him a blow-job as a "thank you." Bruce isn't a random character, but a character involved in the plot, but no, the author throws in an extra, unnecessary character.

So it's better to have it be boring but with a logical plot than absurd. Logically, if V is walking home after a photo shoot and sees two guys in an alley, it wouldn't be strange if she gave them blow jobs too. More sex scenes are fun (but no, that's just stupid). And besides, the game already has a brainless slut ready to take any guy's dick.
Another example of someone not really paying attention to the story. The guy just wasn't any rando. Cedric, is introduced as a pretty famous porn star and that Violet recognizes him as she has watched his porn. So.......given the fact that she already wants to experiment with other guys, given the fact that Eric and her fantasize together about her being with other men, given the fact that the photo shoot with Bruce has her turned on and horny, given the fact that she is ready to go farther before Cedric makes his appearance....

I don't understand what's so hard to believe.

Imagine being practically naked, horny as hell, and the opportunity to play with your favorite porn star just happens.

In addition, Violets attraction/fascination with Bruce (a man as old as her father) is more about how she feels when he commands her during the poses. If you read the dialogue between them she likes Daddy Bruce telling her what to do and just take that to the next level....Daddy Bruce is telling her what to do with her favorite porn star....
 
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What's the balance? The contradiction between the dialogues and the development of events? If so, then I agree that dialogues about one event about another are a kind of theater of the absurd. And it all started with the "going to the club" addition (when the author sat down on two chairs).
For those who don't believe it, start the game from the beginning and feel how the plot develops up to this point and after (it starts with a milking machine with meaningless dialogues and events without events)

And the climax of the nonsense, for me, was the photo shoot, which had a really good opening and a dialogue between V and Bruce that fits the game and the plot. But then a RANDOM guy shows up and she gives him a blow job!!! What kind of stupidity is this???
And when subscribers expressed dissatisfaction, the author decided to change the scene and replaced the character from his second game with another RANDOM guy LOL. The only problem is that it's a RANDOM guy(author doesn't understand this).

If Vi had given Bruce a blow job, that would fit the plot. And she could have easily explained it like Bruce does so much for her, earns her money, and she's just taking pictures. And she gave him a blow-job as a "thank you." Bruce isn't a random character, but a character involved in the plot, but no, the author throws in an extra, unnecessary character.

So it's better to have it be boring but with a logical plot than absurd. Logically, if V is walking home after a photo shoot and sees two guys in an alley, it wouldn't be strange if she gave them blow jobs too. More sex scenes are fun (but no, that's just stupid). And besides, the game already has a brainless slut ready to take any guy's dick.
On top of the previous comments it's actually a good plot device in showing what Vi is capable of doing when she's turned on and unshackled. She's a fallible character.

Plus, read the story lol

There were already many hints to her character in this regard. From the first photoshoot, to the club scene, to the walk to the second photoshoot, up to the second photoshoot.
 

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Developer: thanks for including the kinetic novel tag

A good way to manage expectations and, in some cases, avoid player disappointment and dissatisfaction

Apparently not at all for me, but your tag showed me that up front. Thanks again and best of luck with your project.
 

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Where? Please elaborate..

He is not that random because he is a pornstar on a pornshoot studio. He randomly appiered out of nowhere - yes.(just for the sake of the plot) It is not yet a finished product, how do you know what meaning and what part this "rando" will have later on?
The dialogue between Sai and V on the dance floor (obvious flirting and sexual attraction) remained just MEANINGLESS TALK because when the opportunity to realize this attraction was there, the author switched to milking mode. Now there's a great dialogue between Bruce and V, and once again the author ruins the moment with a RANDOM, useless character.

Is this your first game of this genre?
I'll let you in on a secret: 99% of random characters appear in the game once and disappear without a trace (a porn actress already appeared at V's photo shoot, but she was never seen again). Will there ever be another one in the future? No, the game will be abandoned before anything with background characters appears.

And don't justify the developer just because you like the project. I liked it too, at first, before the update with the clubbing. I'll point out what's wrong and explain why. But many people play these kinds of games simply by looking at the pictures, without really understanding the plot, and as a result, they end up getting a blowjob from a RANDOM, useless character.
Could/can we (I hope the author will change this ruined ending again) see the relationships between the characters already introduced into the game develop? Why add new, unnecessary garbage to the game if the existing characters are underdeveloped?
 
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Another example of someone not really paying attention to the story. The guy just wasn't any rando. Cedric, is introduced as a pretty famous porn star and that Violet recognizes him as she has watched his porn. So.......given the fact that she already wants to experiment with other guys, given the fact that Eric and her fantasize together about her being with other men, given the fact that the photo shoot with Bruce has her turned on and horny, given the fact that she is ready to go farther before Cedric makes his appearance....

I don't understand what's so hard to believe.

Imagine being practically naked, horny as hell, and the opportunity to play with your favorite porn star just happens.

In addition, Violets attraction/fascination with Bruce (a man as old as her father) is more about how she feels when he commands her during the poses. If you read the dialogue between them she likes Daddy Bruce telling her what to do and just take that to the next level....Daddy Bruce is telling her what to do with her favorite porn star....
Reread your post! It says it all: there was a great scene between VI and Bruce, but a RANDOM character appears (if you've seen Keanu Reeves on TV, that doesn't make you familiar). There was a really cool line about dominating VI, and I was curious how far that could go with a character who was ALREADY involved in the game.
But no, the author ruins everything with some supposedly famous porn actor.
Eric and VI discussed an open relationship, but there was a possibility with Sai, but they let it slide. Now with Bruce—no, either. But she's ready to give a blow job to a guy she's seeing for the first time. Doesn't that seem like a stupid plot twist?
 

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The dialogue between Sai and V on the dance floor (obvious flirting and sexual attraction) remained just MEANINGLESS TALK because when the opportunity to realize this attraction was there, the author switched to milking mode. Now there's a great dialogue between Bruce and V, and once again the author ruins the moment with a RANDOM, useless character.

Is this your first game of this genre?
I'll let you in on a secret: 99% of random characters appear in the game once and disappear without a trace (a porn actress already appeared at V's photo shoot, but she was never seen again). Will there ever be another one in the future? No, the game will be abandoned before anything with background characters appears.

And don't justify the developer just because you like the project. I liked it too, at first, before the update with the clubbing. I'll point out what's wrong and explain why. But many people play these kinds of games simply by looking at the pictures, without really understanding the plot, and as a result, they end up getting a blowjob from a RANDOM, useless character.
Could/can we (I hope the author will change this ruined ending again) see the relationships between the characters already introduced into the game develop? Why add new, unnecessary garbage to the game if the existing characters are underdeveloped?
I completely agree with the author - if Vi, for example, had given Sai a blowjob in the alley near the club, and Ericuck had seen it and, most importantly, hadn't objected, it would have been natural and would have fit into the picture.
But her photoshoot followed by a blowjob with a random passerby is completely unnatural for a slut who has just embarked on the path of debauchery and sodomy.
And let's not forget that this was a real photoshoot that will most likely make her 'famous' throughout the country, including her family and friends.
 
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The dialogue between Sai and V on the dance floor (obvious flirting and sexual attraction) remained just MEANINGLESS TALK because when the opportunity to realize this attraction was there, the author switched to milking mode. Now there's a great dialogue between Bruce and V, and once again the author ruins the moment with a RANDOM, useless character.
Don't you undertand that in that moment with Sai - 1. Everybody will lose their minds because cheating and even more hardcore cheating coused by Sai beeing a best friend of Erik. 2. They haven't spoke about going so far at that moment - more cheating. 3. Sai is a main cuck of the game, he got to see Vi and Ari suck Eriks cock and got a handy from Vi at the club.(that's quite a lot of action for a cuck Sai) Of course I thought that in the alley he will get some action, too bad, we'll see a lot more later.
Is this your first game of this genre?
I'll let you in on a secret: 99% of random characters appear in the game once and disappear without a trace (a porn actress already appeared at V's photo shoot, but she was never seen again). Will there ever be another one in the future? No, the game will be abandoned before anything with background characters appears.
I want to make a bet that Cendrick will appear later on in the game. Where did you get your marvelous conclusions about it beeing my 1st game of the genre?...

And don't justify the developer just because you like the project. I liked it too, at first, before the update with the clubbing. I'll point out what's wrong and explain why. But many people play these kinds of games simply by looking at the pictures, without really understanding the plot, and as a result, they end up getting a blowjob from a RANDOM, useless character.
Could/can we (I hope the author will change this ruined ending again) see the relationships between the characters already introduced into the game develop? Why add new, unnecessary garbage to the game if the existing characters are underdeveloped?
You do you, I loved the game before and it became even better for me after Chapter 6. The plot is mostly consistent enough, it looks like a detective, but you uncover where and how spicy scenes will appear. Right know I just want to see what will happen next, excluding all the simultaneous fapping in between.
 

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On top of the previous comments it's actually a good plot device in showing what Vi is capable of doing when she's turned on and unshackled. She's a fallible character.

Plus, read the story lol

There were already many hints to her character in this regard. From the first photoshoot, to the club scene, to the walk to the second photoshoot, up to the second photoshoot.
Read the story and use your brain a little. I'll break it down for you, since you haven't noticed it yet:

- an event at a club on the dance floor, where Sai and VI flirt; the author makes it clear that there is sexual attraction between them.
- then there is a dialogue between Eric and Vee where they come to the conclusion that we'll call it an open relationship. - After this, there's a scene in an alley, and OH MY GOD nothing happens (put the first and second points together), and it's logical that Vi would give Say a blow job. But no, let's assume she didn't dare.
- but the next day, without any remorse or hesitation, she's ready to suck off a guy she's seeing for the first time in her life!!

If the photo shoot were just with V and Bruce, great, no questions asked, but sex with a random guy doesn't fit into the plot at all.
You will understand only if you read the story carefully. LOL
 

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I completely agree with the author - if Vi, for example, had given Sai a blowjob in the alley near the club, and Ericuck had seen it and, most importantly, hadn't objected, it would have been natural and would have fit into the picture.
But her photoshoot followed by a blowjob with a random passerby is completely unnatural for a slut who has just embarked on the path of debauchery and sodomy.
and let's not forget that this was a photoshoot that would potentially make her 'famous' throughout the country.
She was a slut from the very start, plz start reading more into dialogs and thoughts, and everything that have happened.
 

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Don't you undertand that in that moment with Sai - 1. Everybody will lose their minds because cheating and even more hardcore cheating coused by Sai beeing a best friend of Erik. 2. They haven't spoke about going so far at that moment - more cheating. 3. Sai is a main cuck of the game, he got to see Vi and Ari suck Eriks cock and got a handy from Vi at the club.(that's quite a lot of action for a cuck Sai) Of course I thought that in the alley he will get some action, too bad, we'll see a lot more later.


I want to make a bet that Cendrick will appear later on in the game. Where did you get your marvelous conclusions about it beeing my 1st game of the genre?...



You do you, I loved the game before and it became even better for me after Chapter 6. The plot is mostly consistent enough, it looks like a detective, but you uncover where and how spicy scenes will appear. Right know I just want to see what will happen next, excluding all the simultaneous fapping in between.
If you find the plot improved in the events after the club, and especially in Part 6, then I have nothing further to say.
Live in your own world.
 

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If you find the plot improved in the events after the club, and especially in Part 6, then I have nothing further to say.
Live in your own world.
You haven't said neither added anything that was already said and overspoken in this thread at all.
Unfortunatly lack of deeper undertanding makes you write those comments or broken heart from Vi beeing a slut. :cry:
You just unable to connect the dots where in alley Vi gave this pent up sexual energy to Eriks cock and on the shoot she did just that, but with a "total rando"...
 

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She was a slut from the very start, plz start reading more into dialogs and thoughts, and everything that have happened.
Dude, with all due respect, she starred in a professional porno. It's not a homemade video for herself and her partner. And that definitely doesn't really fit the definition of an open relationship.
 

PsyDoggo

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Dude, with all due respect, she starred in a professional porno. It's not a homemade video for herself and her partner. And that definitely doesn't really fit the definition of an open relationship.
Yeap and she already showed her tits to the whole club, beeing spanked, made a "blacked" shoot, "danced" with Sai behind Eriks back, she wants to become a pornstar so how do you achieve it?
Are you both seeking morale in this story here it is - Vi and Erik are 2 degenerates who became a couple for all the wrong reasons. That is not the classic/vanilla romance story, it's a story of corruption and where it can take young, sexy, openminded couple AND not they lived happy after with 100 kids.
 
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