VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [Ch.6 Final] [CircleGames]

[MoonlitWhisper]

After reading tens of previous pages in this thread, because of getting used to it/being stupid/having nothing to do/whatever… we forgot two points

Point one:
If we want to look from a fair perspective, meaning a third-person point of view, you’re being unfair to VI
Back when Eric had sexual act with other girls like Maki behind VI’s back, why did no one say “Why did Eric cheat on VI?” Or mention other things he did that I don’t remember clearly but hid from VI?
That would have been the fair viewpoint

Point two:
A game that’s about communication has communication issues between the developer and the players
The developer said several times early in this game that he isn’t going to limit himself to the strict definitions of Netorase and Netorare. The moment I read that, I realized I shouldn’t get too attached to Eric because drama was coming
Some people’s mistake is that they ignored this, then asked “Why did it turn out like that?”
And the developer’s mistake is that he didn’t clearly write this on the first page of the game; you can only find it in the comments where he mentioned it a few times
Fix this so the thread can return to its brighter days. Right now the atmosphere is very toxic: some are swearing, some are depressed, some are accusing others, and so on

Based. even though I'm totally self-absorbed and just want whatever works out best for me, you know, for Eric

 

[deimos86]

That can be exclusive from a blonde Vi though. I'm not a big fan of devs changing hair colors for characters getting more slutty. I feel like it's a cop out or takes away from the excitement and eroticism. Like some kind of doppelganger. Oops ha sorry guys it's not really Sara ( made up generic name ) it's her evil naughty twin, Sonya!
Again that's just my opinion.

That's an interesting opinion, which leads me to a question: will Vi have a different name when she poses with a blonde wig? A different personality?

 

[TurboKinetics]

That's an interesting opinion, which leads me to a question: will Vi have a different name when she poses with a blonde wig? A different personality?

Might not even be that deep. Wigs and photoshoots really go hand in hand afterall.

 

[deimos86]

Right... but your disappointment doesn't really factor into whether or not something does or does not happen. Nor anyone else's disappointment. There will always be people disappointed, no matter what choice CG makes in regards to certain things, so ultimately it comes down to what he thinks best serves the narrative and project. All I know is that last I spoke to him about this exact thing it simply wasn't a priority at the moment, her current arc has to be finished off before anything further is explored in any case. I'm not saying X won't ever happen, I'm simply saying it isn't the current priority in her narrative.



Nothing has changed about Vi nor how much the focus is split, Anya has been in the game from chapter 1, and got at least as much screen time as Vi even in chapter 3 with her first PoV in that same chapter. Vi has also always been submissive to Eric at various times while pushing boundaries at others, again nothing has changed in that respect. I do find it interesting that half the complaints seem to be in regards to her doing too much without asking while the other half too little... perhaps that means CG hit the balance he was going for.

But saying she's not been submissive to Eric when they literally discussed buying her a leash in the past... I think a lot of complaints often stem from people simply forgetting stuff that's been discussed/happened previously. I understand it's been quite awhile now since the initial release, but often people selectively remember the stuff they most enjoyed/looked forward to and forget the things they cared about less. Literally everything that's happened up to this point was hinted at many chapters prior, that includes Eric/Ari, Maki/Rob, Eric/Anya... all that was foreshadowed.



I don't think there's any intent whatsoever for Vi to only get slutty in the wig. It's just a way of having at least some level of anonymity - and only a little - for what was essentially a first softcore porn shoot.

Right... but your disappointment doesn't really factor into whether or not something does or does not happen. Nor anyone else's disappointment. There will always be people disappointed, no matter what choice CG makes in regards to certain things, so ultimately it comes down to what he thinks best serves the narrative and project. All I know is that last I spoke to him about this exact thing it simply wasn't a priority at the moment, her current arc has to be finished off before anything further is explored in any case. I'm not saying X won't ever happen, I'm simply saying it isn't the current priority in her narrative.



Nothing has changed about Vi nor how much the focus is split, Anya has been in the game from chapter 1, and got at least as much screen time as Vi even in chapter 3 with her first PoV in that same chapter. Vi has also always been submissive to Eric at various times while pushing boundaries at others, again nothing has changed in that respect. I do find it interesting that half the complaints seem to be in regards to her doing too much without asking while the other half too little... perhaps that means CG hit the balance he was going for.

But saying she's not been submissive to Eric when they literally discussed buying her a leash in the past... I think a lot of complaints often stem from people simply forgetting stuff that's been discussed/happened previously. I understand it's been quite awhile now since the initial release, but often people selectively remember the stuff they most enjoyed/looked forward to and forget the things they cared about less. Literally everything that's happened up to this point was hinted at many chapters prior, that includes Eric/Ari, Maki/Rob, Eric/Anya... all that was foreshadowed.



I don't think there's any intent whatsoever for Vi to only get slutty in the wig. It's just a way of having at least some level of anonymity - and only a little - for what was essentially a first softcore porn shoot.

I hope that in the next update, blonde Vi appears more often and has more playtime, since the game's name refers to her, not Eric or other characters. Don't get me wrong, I love the game, it's one of the best games I've ever seen (if not the best), but I would prefer it to focus more on NTR than harem. I heard the next update will be in parts, I hope one of them focuses more on Vi.

 

[deimos86]

Might not even be that deep. Wigs and photoshoots really go hand in hand afterall.

Interesting, but would she wear that blonde wig outside of photo shoots? Using a different persona?

 

[dexterousgecko]

you're going to be waiting a while I think. 6 months just to show a recap of her side of things and maybe 'reclaim' her, another 6 months to show a slightly new scene.

She'll won't be fucking other guys outright for 2 years LOOL

 

[SymbioticLife]

I hope that in the next update, blonde Vi appears more often and has more playtime, since the game's name refers to her, not Eric or other characters. Don't get me wrong, I love the game, it's one of the best games I've ever seen (if not the best), but I would prefer it to focus more on NTR than harem. I heard the next update will be in parts, I hope one of them focuses more on Vi.

The title also directly refers to Eric, given he's the "my" there and while Vi is the main girl it's not just about events around her but how that effects Erics life and that catalyst for change. Most of the "harem" scene so far - those involving Maki and Ari - have also been directly related to NTS/NTR in some way, whether that be Maki utilizing Eric's cellphone to push things or Eric cucking Sai. Netori is a sub genre of NTR, and it will continue to play a role at some points, as will NTS and NTR. There is also stepcest aspects but whether or not some people don't like them won't really stop CG from doing them, he has the support to make the game he wants to make.

And I'm just telling you how it is, as I don't think he bothers to even come to this thread anymore. So I'm trying to communicate that nothings really going to change in that regard. He already confirmed the first part of chapter 7 is the reclaim, so it is with Vi but it's also with Eric.

Anyway I'm going to check out of the thread too for awhile, as I think I've sorted out the confusion over this stuff well enough. The game is and will remain multi genre, people looking for just non stop NTS/NTR action are going to be disappointing themselves even though NTS is 100% the main focus of the game and most other aspects will eventually play into that given time. Just as those who want pure harem have complained at various points as well... The fact that both sides have complained about different things at different times is more of a feature than a bug.

 

[Ricthequick]

I hope that in the next update, blonde Vi appears more often and has more playtime, since the game's name refers to her, not Eric or other characters. Don't get me wrong, I love the game, it's one of the best games I've ever seen (if not the best), but I would prefer it to focus more on NTR than harem. I heard the next update will be in parts, I hope one of them focuses more on Vi.

Where do you see the harem? Oh you mean the main male character (Eric) having sexual scenes with different girls?
Those same girls get action also from other folks, which makes that absolutely not an harem.

And as SymbioticLife already answered, this AVN is as much about Eric as it is about Vi (and the reactions she causes in Eric), if he wasn't the MC the title could have been "The new girlfriend" or "A new Girlfriend", but words do have meaning, you as reader are supposed to see this story (for the most part) through Eric's eyes.

 

[deimos86]

Where do you see the harem? Oh you mean the main male character (Eric) having sexual scenes with different girls?
Those same girls get action also from other folks, which makes that absolutely not an harem.

And as SymbioticLife already answered, this AVN is as much about Eric as it is about Vi (and the reactions she causes in Eric), if he wasn't the MC the title could have been "The new girlfriend" or "A new Girlfriend", but words do have meaning, you as reader are supposed to see this story (for the most part) through Eric's eyes.

Eric has already had relationships (or at least been provoked) with Maki, Anya, Ari, his stepmother, and his neighbor; I think five already constitutes a harem. Maki and Ari are the only ones who have had relationships with other men, in the plural. Vi is starting to loosen up a bit; hopefully more so in the next update.

 

[deimos86]

The title also directly refers to Eric, given he's the "my" there and while Vi is the main girl it's not just about events around her but how that effects Erics life and that catalyst for change. Most of the "harem" scene so far - those involving Maki and Ari - have also been directly related to NTS/NTR in some way, whether that be Maki utilizing Eric's cellphone to push things or Eric cucking Sai. Netori is a sub genre of NTR, and it will continue to play a role at some points, as will NTS and NTR. There is also stepcest aspects but whether or not some people don't like them won't really stop CG from doing them, he has the support to make the game he wants to make.

And I'm just telling you how it is, as I don't think he bothers to even come to this thread anymore. So I'm trying to communicate that nothings really going to change in that regard. He already confirmed the first part of chapter 7 is the reclaim, so it is with Vi but it's also with Eric.

Anyway I'm going to check out of the thread too for awhile, as I think I've sorted out the confusion over this stuff well enough. The game is and will remain multi genre, people looking for just non stop NTS/NTR action are going to be disappointing themselves even though NTS is 100% the main focus of the game and most other aspects will eventually play into that given time. Just as those who want pure harem have complained at various points as well... The fact that both sides have complained about different things at different times is more of a feature than a bug.

Well, I hope there are more NTR elements, or exhibitionism, in the next update. I'm not criticizing the game, I love playing it, but in the beginning it marketed itself as an NTR game, that's what I was trying to say.

 

[MaxMarsh0012]

He already confirmed the first part of chapter 7 is the reclaim, so it is with Vi but it's also with Eric.

what does this mean? Who's reclaiming Vi? She hasn't even cheated on Mc

 

[MaxMarsh0012]

Netori is a sub genre of NTR, and it will continue to play a role at some points, as will NTS and NTR

yeah sure but netori usually comes after the ntr story arc progression. In a lot of ntr games, it's the revenge path & bad guy path in harem/romance games

people looking for just non stop NTS/NTR action are going to be disappointing themselves even though NTS is 100% the main focus of the game and most other aspects will eventually play into that given time. Just as those who want pure harem have complained at various points as well... The fact that both sides have complained about different things at different times is more of a feature than a bug.

I think ntr/nts fans shouldn't have high hopes from this game. Yeah it started off with strong nts vibes, but maybe not a lot of them aren't subbed to dev & he chose a different direction which worked for him

 

[TurboKinetics]

yeah sure but netori usually comes after the ntr story arc progression. In a lot of ntr games, it's the revenge path & bad guy path in harem/romance games

I think ntr/nts fans shouldn't have high hopes from this game. Yeah it started off with strong nts vibes, but maybe not a lot of them aren't subbed to dev & he chose a different direction which worked for him

Its still has nts vibes to those paying enough attention.

 

[fuffek]

It's not really NTR if shes not having sex with others with the intent of MC not knowing about it
It can be NTRish with them having agreement for her having free roam but she tells him or show pic/vid afterward (intended for him) so it's still within NTS boundaries but it has that NTRish feeling to it
It's not really Netori if its not going with her leaving MC for other guy or refusing to have sex with MC and hanging around with him for the sake of other guy (even tho she didnt break up with MC)
And from my understanding you have a harem if MC is having sex with many different girls on regular basis

 

[palmtrees89]

what does this mean? Who's reclaiming Vi? She hasn't even cheated on Mc

Maybe you'd have a better understanding on their relationship dynamic if you hadn't, according to yourself, skipped most of the content between Ch02 all the way through to Ch06, but reclaim here is basically a thing between Vi and Eric where he's "punishing" her for being naughty. In this case, she's been really naughty with the adult performer during her photoshoot in Ch06. That's where the reclaim is coming from.

I think ntr/nts fans shouldn't have high hopes from this game. Yeah it started off with strong nts vibes, but maybe not a lot of them aren't subbed to dev & he chose a different direction which worked for him

I'm basically just repeating what I said above, but... How do you form a properly informed opinion on what is and isn't if you skipped most of the game?

 

[TurboKinetics]

what does this mean? Who's reclaiming Vi? She hasn't even cheated on Mc

Reclaiming doesnt have anything to do with cheating. Its an NTS stag thing

 

[TurboKinetics]

It's not really NTR if shes not having sex with others with the intent of MC not knowing about it
It can be NTRish with them having agreement for her having free roam but she tells him or show pic/vid afterward (intended for him) so it's still within NTS boundaries but it has that NTRish feeling to it
It's not really Netori if its not going with her leaving MC for other guy or refusing to have sex with MC and hanging around with him for the sake of other guy (even tho she didnt break up with MC)
And from my understanding you have a harem if MC is having sex with many different girls on regular basis

Its only harem if the girls are only yours and belong to nobody else. Maybe anya possibly will fit that but everyone else is in a relationship(maybe he fools around with mom later i dunno). And given eric told vi she didnt have to ask permission for everything it completely fits nts. There is no ntr here.

 

[fuffek]

Its only harem if the girls are only yours and belong to nobody else. Maybe anya possibly will fit that but everyone else is in a relationship(maybe he fools around with mom later i dunno). And given eric told vi she didnt have to ask permission for everything it completely fits nts. There is no ntr here.

That's kinda narrow look on it and sounds more like slaves
In that case, you can have for example 5 girls that have sex only with you but there are also 2 girls who are having sex with you but also with somebody else (husband/bf) so 7 total, does that automatically mean you dont have harem ?

EDIT: Unless people view harem and connect it with a real life thing with some kinda prince/king/emperor with multiple wives, instead of fantasy fiction, with average people of the same level living in a society

 

[Phantom Renegade]

Hi, if the Dev make Violet a porn actress, that open the door to soo many kind of sex scenes, Gangbang, Bukkake, Armpit sex, footjobs etc... Maybe Erick end becoming a porn actor too at leas in this story the MC have the advantage of having a huge dick,

I think that what separate a Cuck pathetic MC and a MC that even if a girl cheat on you at least is not because your tiny dick haha and you can play an MC that can have his dignity and have a good fuck with any girl he want.

This story can have being soo different if the MC have a tiny dick, for sure the alley scene was inverted haha and Erick is the one seeing how his friend have a blowjob from his girlfriend and his friend.

something that will "break" my heart is if someone else fuck Erick "mother" hahaha and Erick discover a scene like that will feel NTR for sure (his family is in danger with the three BBC they have for neighbor, Maki alredy have a taste haha and Anya almost being catch too if not for his love for Erick), for the one that expect to find some NTR experience in the game, but for now from what i can see from the Dev
I hardly imagine a Hard NTR scene like that in this game, but maybe he surprise us all hahaha thats for me the funny part of this project, the unknow of the future hahaha.

 

[MaxMarsh0012]

but reclaim here is basically a thing between Vi and Eric where he's "punishing" her for being naughty. In this case, she's been really naughty with the adult performer during her photoshoot in Ch06. That's where the reclaim is coming from.

that's so lame. Let her go all the way out & it"ll be more interesting. A lot bit of teasing ain't exciting

I'm basically just repeating what I said above, but... How do you form a properly informed opinion on what is and isn't if you skipped most of the game?

I did replay it & my observation is correct