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That's kinda narrow look on it and sounds more like slaves
In that case, you can have for example 5 girls that have sex only with you but there are also 2 girls who are having sex with you but also with somebody else (husband/bf) so 7 total, does that automatically mean you dont have harem ?

EDIT: Unless people view harem and connect it with a real life thing with some kinda prince/king/emperor with multiple wives, instead of fantasy fiction, with average people of the same level living in a society
i meant this kind of harem. You're right
 
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Those doors are open even without her becoming a porn star.
And in my personall opinion I think that if you turn FMC in NTS game/story it kinda removes the NTS part from it, as it becomes a job thing instead of being an adventure
But it's his thing, he has it planned out and nothing wrong with that


i meant this kind of harem. You're right
I would say it's more of an ego thing than fetish where person want to feel good being in power with multiple people being loyal only to him, where he doesn't have to be loayl to them in a 1 to 1 way they are
So they aren't on even ground
 
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that's so lame. Let her go all the way out & it"ll be more interesting. A lot bit of teasing ain't exciting

I did replay it & my observation is correct
Not sure what exactly is "lame" to you, but the progress on Vi+Eric's NTS path is clearly moving forward with every chapter - which if you replayed it should be clear to you. To me it sounds like you just want to see sex scenes without credible progression storywise and character development in general.

I'd argue your observation is completely off the track, but ay. Everyone's got their opinions.
 

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That's kinda narrow look on it and sounds more like slaves
In that case, you can have for example 5 girls that have sex only with you but there are also 2 girls who are having sex with you but also with somebody else (husband/bf) so 7 total, does that automatically mean you dont have harem ?
Nothing like slaves dude. Yes, its like having multiple loyal wife's. Id think harem needs at least 3 girls or guys being with whoever. Since really 2 of the girls would just be a throuple. Past that the other girls if they are fucking others would not be part of your harem and its just some sex. Harems involve love not slaves.
 
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Not sure what exactly is "lame" to you, but the progress on Vi+Eric's NTS path is clearly moving forward with every chapter - which if you replayed it should be clear to you. To me it sounds like you just want to see sex scenes without credible progression storywise and character development in general
She's been a teaseful slut from the very first update. She hasn't even blown someone else. That's not a credible progression
 
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Nothing like slaves dude. Yes, its like having multiple loyal wife's. Id think harem needs at least 3 girls or guys being with whoever. Since really 2 of the girls would just be a throuple. Past that the other girls if they are fucking others would not be part of your harem and its just some sex. Harems involve love not slaves.
Hi, well for the strict definition of the word harem: in the past in some , the or other of a man, Among Muslims, the group of all women who live under the dependence of a head of household.

So i dont know if the anime or porn genre definition change but for what I understand if you live with women who fuck with you, you have am Harem even if they dont love you and they live and have sex with you for other motives but I think the key thing in Harem is they have to live with you in the end all this genres and definitions tend to be a little ambiguous for example if in a NTR Story can be romance between the MC and FMC even after corruption etc...

In the end is good to have a flexible thinking some definitions and genres can have many meaning depending of the point of view and all have his validity.
 

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Hi, well for the strict definition of the word harem: in the past in some , the or other of a man, Among Muslims, the group of all women who live under the dependence of a head of household.

So i dont know if the anime or porn genre definition change but for what I understand if you live with women who fuck with you, you have am Harem even if they dont love you and they live and have sex with you for other motives but I think the key thing in Harem is they have to live with you in the end all this genres and definitions tend to be a little ambiguous for example if in a NTR Story can be romance between the MC and FMC even after corruption etc...

In the end is good to have a flexible thinking some definitions and genres can have many meaning depending of the point of view and all have his validity.
Ntr story can never be romance since shes cheated. Period. Nts can though.

Id concede it doesnt exactly need all the girls to love you in a harem but def not like slaves. And if they sleep around they arent part of the harem, maybe call them freelancers lol. And not im not looking at middle eastern harems where theyd be concidered property.
Point is the is a nts swinging game not a harem game
 
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She's been a teaseful slut from the very first update. She hasn't even blown someone else. That's not a credible progression
It's almost as if you're playing a different game or something. Vi's went further and further every time. Ch06 has her sucking the balls of a dude she met 5 minutes prior. Ch05 had her give a handjob to Eric's best friend. If you go back more you should be able to notice that it's getting more tame. Or vice versa, like I said, she's going further with every Chapter.

Teasing and sucking dick of strangers are two different things my dude. She's getting there as you can see. I don't know what you're even talking about to be honest.
 

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It's almost as if you're playing a different game or something. Vi's went further and further every time. Ch06 has her sucking the balls of a dude she met 5 minutes prior. Ch05 had her give a handjob to Eric's best friend. If you go back more you should be able to notice that it's getting more tame. Or vice versa, like I said, she's going further with every Chapter.

Teasing and sucking dick of strangers are two different things my dude. She's getting there as you can see. I don't know what you're even talking about to be honest.
i think i've figured it out. It's a nts+swinging game. Since all the other girls might fuck other guys, they will always have more affection for MC. He"ll always be in control. It won't delve into nts+cuckolding & Ntr is not happening fs
 
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i think i've figured it out. It's a nts+swinging game. Since all the other girls might fuck other guys, they will always have more affection for MC. He"ll always be in control. It won't delve into nts+cuckolding & Ntr is not happening fs
SymbioticLife's posts have already explained it thoroughly. You did reply to his posts, but it doesn't look like you actually read them. I'm not going over it again.
 
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Ntr story can never be romance since shes cheated. Period. Nts can though.

Id concede it doesnt exactly need all the girls to love you in a harem but def not like slaves. And if they sleep around they arent part of the harem, maybe call them freelancers lol. And not im not looking at middle eastern harems where theyd be concidered property.
Point is the is a nts swinging game not a harem game
But what is your definition of romance ? if romance definition is: a feeling of love or a strong attraction towards another person, someone who cheat like Erick with Maki in the Beach dont mean that Erick dont love Violet right?

But i guest this comes with what is the definition of love and we have another loop hole hahaha, for me love is the action of make feel the other person appreciated, valued, made him a better person, be loyal, honest, do some amounts of self sacrifice (like cook for her, wash her clothes, do the dishes, help her when she needed etc... even when you dont like do things like that cuz they are annoying but are good for her and in the end for you) etc...

If that the case Erick dont love Violet? for me even if he do all I mention before except being not loyal and honest when he cheat to her behind her back in the beach with Maki before they start the swinging "NTS" agreement if a No but just cuz for me is key in love to be loyal and honest, but if other person dont have the exact same values then Yes Erick love her.

but that not mean for me that they dont can have romance if mean they have a strong attraction to each other something that you can clearly see haha.

Or maybe Strictly talking if the definition of NTR genre cant have romance just for a formality rule i guest i wrong?

hahaha thats why i think in the end all change with the point of view of each one maybe we all have a % of right and wrong in abstract situations like this.

PD: I cant wait to see the next chapters of this and https://f95zone.to/threads/aperture-ch-2-vonsatia.262238/ but i think we all have to wait maybe until end of February, meanwhile good thing this month comes the update of:
https://f95zone.to/threads/starmaker-story-v1-7-arvus-games.218071/
https://f95zone.to/threads/demon-deals-v0-07c-breadman-games.97458/
https://f95zone.to/threads/fmg-world-v0-1-9-evil-femboy.236246/
https://f95zone.to/threads/my-a-rank-witch-v0-5-skinny-rat-studio.258552/

and I dont remember but im waiting too for:
https://f95zone.to/threads/shadows-of-ambition-ch-6-1-abyssgames.231321/
https://f95zone.to/threads/moonripple-lake-v0-51-bcg.220933/
 
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But what is your definition of romance ? if romance definition is: a feeling of love or a strong attraction towards another person, someone who cheat like Erick with Maki in the Beach dont mean that Erick dont love Violet right?

But i guest this comes with what is the definition of love and we have another loop hole hahaha, for me love is the action of make feel the other person appreciated, valued, made him a better person, be loyal, honest, do some amounts of self sacrifice (like cook for her, wash her clothes, do the dishes, help her when she needed etc... even when you dont like do things like that cuz they are annoying but are good for her and in the end for you) etc...

If that the case Erick dont love Violet? for me even if he do all I mention before except being not loyal and honest when he cheat to her behind her back in the beach with Maki before they start the swinging "NTS" agreement if a No but just cuz for me is key in love to be loyal and honest, but if other person dont have the exact same values then Yes Erick love her.

but that not mean for me that they dont can have romance if mean they have a strong attraction to each other something that you can clearly see haha.

Or maybe Strictly talking if the definition of NTR genre cant have romance just for a formality rule i guest i wrong?

hahaha thats why i think in the end all change with the point of view of each one maybe we all have a % of right and wrong in abstract situations like this.

PD: I cant wait to see the next chapters of this and https://f95zone.to/threads/aperture-ch-2-vonsatia.262238/ but i think we all have to wait maybe until end of February, meanwhile good thing this month comes the update of:
https://f95zone.to/threads/starmaker-story-v1-7-arvus-games.218071/
https://f95zone.to/threads/demon-deals-v0-07c-breadman-games.97458/
https://f95zone.to/threads/fmg-world-v0-1-9-evil-femboy.236246/
https://f95zone.to/threads/my-a-rank-witch-v0-5-skinny-rat-studio.258552/

and I dont remember but im waiting too for:
https://f95zone.to/threads/shadows-of-ambition-ch-6-1-abyssgames.231321/
https://f95zone.to/threads/moonripple-lake-v0-51-bcg.220933/
Jesus dude just write a novel lol its not that serious
 

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I don't think there's any intent whatsoever for Vi to only get slutty in the wig. It's just a way of having at least some level of anonymity - and only a little - for what was essentially a first softcore porn shoot.
Getting a feel for CG's style I do think the same. I was mostly speaking in a general sense.
 

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There needs to be more content with Rob. Even threesome with him and his brother with anya would be really hot. Or really any other girl is fine as well. The developer should focus more on them and their father.
 

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There needs to be more content with Rob. Even threesome with him and his brother with anya would be really hot. Or really any other girl is fine as well. The developer should focus more on them and their father.
Im unsure if youve been following the narrative, but for now at least Rob and his brother Jack are at odds and neither Anya nor Jack are nearly "corrupt" enough for such a thing right at this moment, and at least for Anya I'm not sure whether she ever would be or whether that's in the scope of her story.

For the other girls, I'm sure CG has all sorts of plans that - some of which I know of but obviously can't talk about - that you'll enjoy plenty. But the neighbours are just one aspect of this, it's been said before but I'll say it again, interracial is a major theme of the game but the game is not an "interracial game" in the way some are. There's a lot of other kinks going on including other types of NTS kinks (see Bruce, Cedrick, perhaps even Arnold). Jack himself is far from a tropey black character - at least personality wise, he is a tall basketball player after all.

But again, CG has tons of crazy ideas that people of all sorts of tastes will enjoy, it's just a matter of developing things so that they make sense. He likes the build up as much as the act itself, something he told me himself and is pretty clear in his attention to atmosphere/foreshadowing/teasing.

But that also means Rob and Jack aren't going to get together next chapter and suddenly spitroast any of the girls, because obviously there's been literally no build up to such a thing happening and for the moment it would be wildly out of character.
 

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But what is your definition of romance ? if romance definition is: a feeling of love or a strong attraction towards another person, someone who cheat like Erick with Maki in the Beach dont mean that Erick dont love Violet right?

But i guest this comes with what is the definition of love and we have another loop hole hahaha, for me love is the action of make feel the other person appreciated, valued, made him a better person, be loyal, honest, do some amounts of self sacrifice (like cook for her, wash her clothes, do the dishes, help her when she needed etc... even when you dont like do things like that cuz they are annoying but are good for her and in the end for you) etc...

If that the case Erick dont love Violet? for me even if he do all I mention before except being not loyal and honest when he cheat to her behind her back in the beach with Maki before they start the swinging "NTS" agreement if a No but just cuz for me is key in love to be loyal and honest, but if other person dont have the exact same values then Yes Erick love her.

but that not mean for me that they dont can have romance if mean they have a strong attraction to each other something that you can clearly see haha.

Or maybe Strictly talking if the definition of NTR genre cant have romance just for a formality rule i guest i wrong?

hahaha thats why i think in the end all change with the point of view of each one maybe we all have a % of right and wrong in abstract situations like this.

PD: I cant wait to see the next chapters of this and https://f95zone.to/threads/aperture-ch-2-vonsatia.262238/ but i think we all have to wait maybe until end of February, meanwhile good thing this month comes the update of:
https://f95zone.to/threads/starmaker-story-v1-7-arvus-games.218071/
https://f95zone.to/threads/demon-deals-v0-07c-breadman-games.97458/
https://f95zone.to/threads/fmg-world-v0-1-9-evil-femboy.236246/
https://f95zone.to/threads/my-a-rank-witch-v0-5-skinny-rat-studio.258552/

and I dont remember but im waiting too for:
https://f95zone.to/threads/shadows-of-ambition-ch-6-1-abyssgames.231321/
https://f95zone.to/threads/moonripple-lake-v0-51-bcg.220933/
First of all a suggestion, put at least a spoiler on those links to other AVNs, we are not suppsed to link and disccu them in here.

For what concerns Romance, the tag is pretty generic on F95, so could apply to almost everything, but if one wants to boil it down, romance is when both parties show love/affection to eachother, a true NTR story will never be a romantic one (might start as one thou).

If all you see is one of the 2 cheating behind the other's back... that's not romance.
If all you see is one having sex with someone else in front of the other... that's not romance.
The second could qualify for romance if that was an agreement the 2 had "I'd love to see you fuck bull XYZ!", but that needs to be displayed and, I'd argue, also scenes where actual love between the 2 (being them sex scenes or just loveydovey ones) happens.
 
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