chunkas

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guys please at least he is giving us the update not like icstor who is not giving fak even after year and still not working and still saying 90%
Boo-ha-ha. Oh, you're my little baby. Well, even. A Scammer of Net work is not just brazenly deceiving you, as an icstor, but it turns out that he is deceiving you a little bit, a little bit. Oh, you're my sweet. Well, wait a little longer, and this reliable of the most reliable Dev's will meet all your expectations. I hope that the next 5 years of expectations will meet all your hopes, baby?
 

Lordsblades

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May 29, 2018
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this will be my first post since registering an account, which is about 3 years. im not 20 25 years old and so on, to participate in the endless controversy on the pirate forum of porn games. just going into once again on postponed release date of "content" and seeing that it was postponed again, as well as a sea of hatred towards the "developer" of the content, i wanted to express my point of view which however is not unique.

First. from of all existing porn games and related genres at least 1% of people can be called "developers", 99% are just creators. they do not develop anything themselves, everything has been developed for them long ago. And they use these developments for their own purposes. Using engines, assets models animations sounds and so on etc etc. Example 1% of developers - for example, fow studio, complex work of artists and 3D artists, sound and audio directors, live voice actors and so on. Whatever their quality of videos and games and the attitude of people to their products. At the same time, it is unnecessary to search for the remaining 99.90% - they are everywhere. Including MNL. A ready-made unpretentious engine, models and faces of characters that have been repeatedly used in hundreds of other "projects", converted to fit that needs of the views of this "author" with help of mods. And such as MNL - the overwhelming majority. Naturally 18-25 year old guys are sitting behind the "creation" of such games, who for obvious reasons will not give up easy money. And money is really easy, sets of ready-made presets are translated into pictures, plots are simultaneously composed through a ton of text most of which are the thoughts of infantile people. the "game" is ready. and thousands more. anyone sitting on this forum can do exactly the same, the only question is how far you would have gone from same path that you hate in others.

Secondly. Patreon is such a platform that it will not ask "content creators" for prices, content release dates and so on. only within the cases of what may be asked "above" from the site itself. therefore, the only way to influence creators of porn games is punishment OR reward with money, that is. subscriptions and donations. People like everything, there is trust to creator? - reward with money. did not like? - punish. unsubscribe. dont donate, and so on. if people, despite the fact that they do not like it, continue to encourage the attitude towards themselves with money - such people can be "milked". logic is simple in both directions. until people start to punish the creators of such "games" and being really unhappy, nothing will change. Until the majority of people become dissatisfied, nothing will change. If content continues to appear on the mechanics of milking, postponement of release dates, and so on - then everyone is happy with everything, the minority of the dissatisfied will be ignored.

About Beggar. his games are pretty good by standards of most "porn games", but. looks like another person who is trite tired of his own "game", has a crisis of ideas and lost inspiration, but its hard to get tired of the endless flow of easy money, lol. It also looks like another game that will never be finished. what can I say - his previous game version 2.1 broke off out of the blue under the pretext of creating a revamp, and remained unfinished. pretext for revamp was a quick, better-quality rethinking of the original and transition to MNL2. as the result, a quick rethinking lasts more than two years, sets of pictures come out with great periodicity in comparison with the original and the beginning of revamp, a bunch of endless promises and conditions of which are invented out of thin air and change along the way. So yes. no matter how you cry at this forum, this will not change essence of the matter. people like Beggar, and ofc not only him will continue to milk their short-sighted subscribers, subscribers will continue to bring in money like dogs with open tongue and without asking questions wait for the next portion of pictures from the presets of faces, models and characters that have already been used a thousand times everywhere and everyone is happy. it turns out like this
 

YLuffy94

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Feb 19, 2018
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The way I see this whole delays and Bug business is simply that BoN is an amateur Game creator/Developer and not some Huge Game company and while there is delays and some slight bugs, that is normal since even the huge game studios making top tier games have this same issue and this issue keeps getting worse the more the fans try to rush the developers to release and update because they will throw out a crappy rushed version that hasn't been proof-read or Crawled through for bugs and game-breaking glitches. Yes we all want an update but Y'all are rushing the creator which will most likely result in what i said before Rushed and crappy gameplay filled with bugs. have some goddamn patience and respect the hours spent on creating this and all future updates.
 
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meifeng

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Jun 10, 2017
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The way I see this whole delays and Bug business is simply that BoN is an amateur Game creator/Developer and not some Huge Game company and while there is delays and some slight bugs, that is normal since even the huge game studios making top tier games have this same issue and this issue keeps getting worse the more the fans try to rush the developers to release and update because they will throw out a crappy rushed version that hasn't been proof-read or Crawled through for bugs and game-breaking glitches. Yes we all want an update but Y'all are rushing the creator which will most likely result in what i said before Rushed and crappy gameplay filled with bugs. have some goddamn patience and respect the hours spent on creating this and all future updates.
Yea like the last update which despite delaying it,having 3 months to work on it and to top it all off a lenghty vacation he managed to put out a half assed update full of bugs which some where crucial to the story meaning he dint bother to even play test the build.

The truth is beggar doesnt care about the game anymore the only thing that is driving him at this point is money, thats why he no longer bothers to play test his builds and fails to deliver on promised content.

I cant believe people are still making these pathetic excuses fooling themselfs to defend scammer of the nets scummy practices and his clear intentions of milking his delusional fans.

Mark my words screenshot this if you have to but I can promise you that when ever he puts out the new update its going to be filled with bugs and cut content despite his "delay" I can almost guarantee he wont even bother to play test the build.
 
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anonym0u5

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Jun 21, 2020
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Yes we all want an update but Y'all are rushing the creator which will most likely result in what i said before Rushed and crappy gameplay filled with bugs. have some goddamn patience and respect the hours spent on creating this and all future updates.
But he get to work on the game at his own pace...

Like does "no release schedule" meant anything to you?

He can spend as much time as he wanted on the build & get to announce the release date... WHENEVER he wanted.

Bugs is not an excuse here cuz he had all the time in the world to work on & play test the game since there are NO RELEASE SCHEDULES. He gets to annouce the date, NOT US.

If he release a build filled to the brim with bugs, what did he spend his time on? Honestly, family or personal issues sound more plausible than bugs.
 

ZoneIT

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Apr 17, 2020
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I really wish i could ask him.. why did he not end the last game in 1 or 2 updates, Lucy was the last girl that you needed to bang and then make MNL 2 whit a new code, new ideas, better future.
I know he is greedy and just wanted to have a 3-4 mounts paid vacation..but why revamp the game from an artistic standpoint. The only real changes that were done were the Dad wanting to bang Sarah, Step Mom not being a bich from the start, and making the game 20% less grind"Sarah mini-game".

From what I see I think beggar has real mental problems, He struggles to focus on tasks, he puts himself in uncomfortable situations "release dates whit no idea when is really ready ", Lies out of fear, Is very introverted even whit his fans that will bite a bullet for him, Takes 2 weeks breaks out of every release "sigs of metal exhaustion"
 

Inspired8

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Yea like the last update which despite delaying it,having 3 months to work on it and to top it all off a lenghty vacation he managed to put out a half assed update full of bugs which some where crucial to the story meaning he dint bother to even play test the build.

The truth is beggar doesnt care about the game anymore the only thing that is driving him at this point is money, thats why he no longer bothers to play test his builds and fails to deliver on promised content.

I cant believe people are still making these pathetic excuses fooling themselfs to defend scammer of the nets scummy practices and his clear intentions of milking his delusional fans.

Mark my words screenshot this if you have to but I can promise you that when ever he puts out the new update its going to be filled with bugs and cut content despite his "delay" I can almost guarantee he wont even bother to play test the build.
It is going to be like you said in your post, last update had a game-breaking bug during an INTRO to the game, which was fixed by symphony of the night not by scammer of net himself. It's also true, that he doesn't give a shit about his supporters anymore, every time he spouts some grand nonsense, that everything is going to be better from now on etc. The same patterns keep occurring every single time. It's going to be 4th and last update this year, considering, it's his full time job, 3 years ago, he had released 3 updates in the span of 3 months (1 in August , another one in September , and 3rd one was at the end of November afterwards) and also the updates didn't have cut content, they had bugs obv, but the content itself was present, he also had been adding extra scenes for each update a week after or so. If someone wrote here 3 years ago, that in 2021 he's gonna release only 4 updates, that were delayed countless amount of times, each of them had their content cut in half if not worse, people would call that person a lunatic. He also doesn't have to play test every update himself, he can just milk even more money from his loyal fans, just so they pay extra 10-20 bucks to help him play test the build and find bugs, making his life even easier. But in reality scammer of net has no clue how to properly do business, especially, when his fans eat every single bullshit he spouts, every time. Next year he's gonna release 3 updates at best, if not 2. And soon he's going to become a budget version of icstor.
 
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Moterbr

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That android port does not work at some point early on it says loading image fail and than its looping any ideas on what to do
 

Inspired8

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Jul 5, 2018
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I really wish i could ask him.. why did he not end the last game in 1 or 2 updates, Lucy was the last girl that you needed to bang and then make MNL 2 whit a new code, new ideas, better future.
I know he is greedy and just wanted to have a 3-4 mounts paid vacation..but why revamp the game from an artistic standpoint. The only real changes that were done were the Dad wanting to bang Sarah, Step Mom not being a bich from the start, and making the game 20% less grind"Sarah mini-game".

From what I see I think beggar has real mental problems, He struggles to focus on tasks, he puts himself in uncomfortable situations "release dates whit no idea when is really ready ", Lies out of fear, Is very introverted even whit his fans that will bite a bullet for him, Takes 2 weeks breaks out of every release "sigs of metal exhaustion"
He just wanted to see, if he could milk his fans or not at that point, cuz before the revamp he was extremely consistent with releases (8-9 updates on average a year), also people wanted him to fix the bugs, not to remake the entire game, but he still decided to do that on his own accord, he also reduced the grind in the original game years ago as well, cuz most people didn't like that part. But we will never know for certain, what actually goes on inside his head.
 

dionlux

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Jul 20, 2017
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Hola gente, la nueva actualización salía hoy, bueno, eso es lo que leí, pero el mendigo retrasó la entrega, ¿alguien tiene conocimiento de cuánto tiempo llevará el pulido de la nueva actualización o tiene una fecha abierta?
 

owbitchbr

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Jan 9, 2020
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for real? if I had 900 patreons maybe I wouldn't work that much, hope it doesn't work half hour and fap to it' own game this can be dangerous
 
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I do not think the Patreon mode is reasonable. It has no requirements for creators to release an update within a period corresponding to their tiers. This year I have been subscribing a creator, which has accumulated to a huge amount. But they do not have any project management and only released 2 updates. The leader does not always have a good mood and gets angry when anyone asks for spoilers. Come on, are we not his customers? I feel like soon I may stop subscribing this creator, like I quitted subscribing BoN 2 years ago.
In addition, Patreon monthly subscription costs the same amount whenever you start it within a month. Thus, I would suggest a new plan: a one-time payment for each update, because we should know what we can have from our payments. Now I prefer purchasing the available Steam versions, at least it gives limited promises in an "industry" with no rules or laws.
 

chunkas

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Chunkas says:
For those players in the MNL who do not remember or for some reason were not interested in the events related to the release of updates of the original game, a small return to the past. In early 2019, BoN decided to abandon the continuation of the original MNL game. Instead of bringing the original to some reasonable end with the necessary correction of a bunch of accumulated errors and a smooth transition to MNL 2, the dev makes an ambiguous decision and restarts the game in the spring of 2019. Currently, we expect the next update of the revamp MNL at the end of November. I remind you that at that time the MNL was at the peak of its development (it may have passed this peak) and had a large number of patrons. Practically, dev, perhaps without expecting it himself, shot myself in the foot with this illogical decision - launching a revamp. Many fans of this game were just expecting MNL 2, in which a gang confrontation was expected. Some fans explained this strange decision of BoN by the so-called "burnout", dev himself was tired of his game. Others said that the developer could not logically reduce the plot ends to something more logical and natural, since the original game was very much branched. Still others claimed that the game had accumulated a critical number of bugs. The fourth wrote that dev at the peak of the development of the game, decided to "milk" the patrons, that is, in simple words, embarked on the path of the so-called "milking". Etc. Attention: question! And what opinion do you PERSONALLY incline to, what is the reason for such destructive behavior of BoN? Maybe it was caused by the combination of all these factors? Perhaps you have your own ORIGINAL opinion on this? Do not hesitate to speak out. Any even the most fantastic assumptions are accepted. Thanks for attention.
 

Inspired8

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Chunkas says:
For those players in the MNL who do not remember or for some reason were not interested in the events related to the release of updates of the original game, a small return to the past. In early 2019, BoN decided to abandon the continuation of the original MNL game. Instead of bringing the original to some reasonable end with the necessary correction of a bunch of accumulated errors and a smooth transition to MNL 2, the dev makes an ambiguous decision and restarts the game in the spring of 2019. Currently, we expect the next update of the revamp MNL at the end of November. I remind you that at that time the MNL was at the peak of its development (it may have passed this peak) and had a large number of patrons. Practically, dev, perhaps without expecting it himself, shot myself in the foot with this illogical decision - launching a revamp. Many fans of this game were just expecting MNL 2, in which a gang confrontation was expected. Some fans explained this strange decision of BoN by the so-called "burnout", dev himself was tired of his game. Others said that the developer could not logically reduce the plot ends to something more logical and natural, since the original game was very much branched. Still others claimed that the game had accumulated a critical number of bugs. The fourth wrote that dev at the peak of the development of the game, decided to "milk" the patrons, that is, in simple words, embarked on the path of the so-called "milking". Etc. Attention: question! And what opinion do you PERSONALLY incline to, what is the reason for such destructive behavior of BoN? Maybe it was caused by the combination of all these factors? Perhaps you have your own ORIGINAL opinion on this? Do not hesitate to speak out. Any even the most fantastic assumptions are accepted. Thanks for attention.
But it was his patrons who wanted him to fix bugs, he said it would take him couple of months, people still decided to commit to it. But it was his decision to completely revamp the game and start from scratch, he wanted to see if he can get away with blatant milking of people, that made his dream come true, and in the end he pretty much got away with it, the backlash amounted to nothing basically, he lost quite the number of supporters, but it wasn't detrimental to his livelihood. And here we're 5 years later, since he started making this project, that's STILL not finished, his attitude and work ethic only got worse in the last 2-2.5 years, soon he's gonna either abandon the game completely or starts releasing new medium-sized updates every 5-6 months at best. It would be ironic if the new update is going to have a small amount of content, considering it took him 3 months to make. As long as he keeps getting away with his bullshit and milking, nothing will change, it would only get worse in the future. I would be surprised if he doesn't decide to remake the game from scratch again and actually finishes it next year or so. Also 3 years ago he had the ability to hire someone, so he could've made his life a lot easier. I'm pretty sure he can still do it, he can even charge extra those, who want to play test the new builds for bugs etc. At least 10-20 of his supporters would even pay 40-50 bucks a month for that IMO. But scammer of net is not very smart, when it comes to the business side of things, he can draw very well, his coding skills became average with time, but other than that, he never thought of capitalizing on possibilities he had. But still have to give it to him, his grand speeches are always greatly received by his loyal fans, so I guess he learnt how to milk and manipulate them properly
 
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