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Why thank you! I do indeed try to provide thoughtful feedback and create intelligent discourse as to inform the devs that they're doing a great job crafting their game while also providing other points of view. I find it much more satisfying and beneficial to the community at large compared to acting like a toxic chad who only cares about their next cum sesh. After all, if we were only interested in anthros in bikinis then we'd be over at Rule 34 instead of a discussion forum.
I agree, also people is asking for scenes to be optional, not removed.
 
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Chapter 8 is coming in half a year and is gonna be shorter than chapter 7. I`m keking at these H developers lmao. Chapter 7 wasn`t even 30 minutes of gameplay. Can`t even be mad anymore. Brother is straight milking his fan base. I`m writing off this game I`ll check with this in a few years if it even lasts that long.
 
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Chapter 8 is coming in half a year and is gonna be shorter than chapter 7. I`m keking at these H developers lmao. Chapter 7 wasn`t even 30 minutes of gameplay. Can`t even be mad anymore. Brother is straight milking his fan base. I`m writing off this game I`ll check with this in a few years if it even lasts that long.
Many of these new projects(see WaL, DemonDeals for example) started during the covid pandemy, focused more on planning and released guess what quickly and with more content. Now those times are over and it's just how normally patreon (sadly) works. The more support they get, the less they work on it, also Patreon gets its slice, their get theirs and so will go on till their supporters accept it. On this website and online you can literally count the few investing their new resources in their projects. I like the art, that's the only thing that keeps the interest alive about this game, but the last update was indeed underwhelming.
 

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I think a cool future update for this game would be the additions of other kingdoms.. queen bee would be awesome, maybe some aquatic peeps too
 

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I recently discovered this one, the art is great and i'm enjoying the story too. Orwell would be proud!
 
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Very good game and Art but I (we) can clearly see that the artist just milks theyre patrons even tho Im not one of them. Kinda disrespectful. One guy is giving you their money even if it is 1 dollar, theyre still showing support for you, so atleast you can not do them like this. The more support supposedly means more laziness? Otherwise if you have problems that we dont know (meaning personal problems, tech problems or health problems) we can understand if you dont work at the most 1 year total. The game is good and has alot of potencial so I wouldnt waste it if I were you, because it might fireback.
 
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it's common practice in most well put-together AVNs to be able to bypass them.
I actually don't remember many AVNs that let you skip sex content. You can avoid it but often some characters require you to engage with the other characters, or during the story there's forced content
 

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I actually don't remember many AVNs that let you skip sex content. You can avoid it but often some characters require you to engage with the other characters, or during the story there's forced content
"you can avoid it" = same thing. I don't mean a box that pops up like "do you want to skip this"? Most well designed VNs have paths you can avoid or choose alternates of for all or most side character & side kink content. If/when sex scenes are unavoidable in those games, they're mainly scenes with the main love interest, which makes sense as it may be critical to plot development (plus who'd play a game where you're not interested in the main LI).

This game itself even has kinks and scenes you can choose an alternative to in other portions of the game.
 

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"you can avoid it" = same thing. I don't mean a box that pops up like "do you want to skip this"? Most well designed VNs have paths you can avoid or choose alternates of for all or most side character & side kink content. If/when sex scenes are unavoidable in those games, they're mainly scenes with the main love interest, which makes sense as it may be critical to plot development (plus who'd play a game where you're not interested in the main LI).

This game itself even has kinks and scenes you can choose an alternative to in other portions of the game.
I didn't mean the pop up box, I meant the options to not engage in the content. I tried a fair few VNs, and no matter how I tried to avoid stuff, you usually still get railroaded into it
 

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I didn't mean the pop up box, I meant the options to not engage in the content. I tried a fair few VNs, and no matter how I tried to avoid stuff, you usually still get railroaded into it
I was specifying well-designed VNs. We may be playing very different VNs or have different ideas of what that is, though. I usually drag most VNs I find on here into the trash after 5 min due to design or writing issues. That also includes games with walls of text & little to no choices, so maybe there's some self-selecting going on (games with little to no choices in the beginning would also likely not have path options for sex scenes later in the game). Of games that seem good enough to play through for me, they almost always have these sorts of choices later once it gets to sex scenarios.
 

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I didn't mean the pop up box, I meant the options to not engage in the content. I tried a fair few VNs, and no matter how I tried to avoid stuff, you usually still get railroaded into it
Hint: the N in VN stands for 'novel'. Novels usually have quite a predetermined narrative structure, and no matter how many times and editions of 'War and Peace' one reads, they'll be reading a story they've absolutely no influence over. I know that V for Virtual is supposed to denote the 'choose your adventure' type of reading experience, but nah, that seldom happens. While most devs of games in these formats are convinced they're creative enough to be able to construct an engaging, truly multi-branching piece of literature... they're not - barely able to pull off two 'flavors' to their scenes, as in 'be nice/be a dick' or 'fuck pink/fuck stink'.
 

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Some semantics going on here maybe. I consider "games" with basically no choices to be more digital comics. And choose-your-own style games that don't actually allow you to "choose your own" to be... just sort of bad & not worth playing, usually. You at least need the illusion of choice. Which even this game actually pulls off well in various parts of it (just not here). If it didn't, I wouldn't be playing it up to this point.

Without personal agency, or at least the feeling of it, might as well just watch porn or put on a movie.
 
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I was specifying well-designed VNs. We may be playing very different VNs or have different ideas of what that is, though. I usually drag most VNs I find on here into the trash after 5 min due to design or writing issues. That also includes games with walls of text & little to no choices, so maybe there's some self-selecting going on (games with little to no choices in the beginning would also likely not have path options for sex scenes later in the game). Of games that seem good enough to play through for me, they almost always have these sorts of choices later once it gets to sex scenarios.
I wouldn't drag most into "trash", but I would into "Too similar to other VNs", which doesn't always mean that they are bad, so yeah, different ideas.

The only VNs I know that don't railroad into sex (or at least let you avoid it) are Once In A Lifetime, Eternum (probably at least...) Mystic Manor. Maybe House In The Rift but been a while since I played it so maybe I am misremembering
 

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Hint: the N in VN stands for 'novel'. Novels usually have quite a predetermined narrative structure, and no matter how many times and editions of 'War and Peace' one reads, they'll be reading a story they've absolutely no influence over. I know that V for Virtual is supposed to denote the 'choose your adventure' type of reading experience, but nah, that seldom happens. While most devs of games in these formats are convinced they're creative enough to be able to construct an engaging, truly multi-branching piece of literature... they're not - barely able to pull off two 'flavors' to their scenes, as in 'be nice/be a dick' or 'fuck pink/fuck stink'.
I think V stands for Visual? Anyways, that is my point and grievance, it's supposed to be a game yet you don't get much of a choice. The saving grace is that the choice is "do you wanna do the sex" and why most people would you play a porn game and not want to do the sex
 
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