VN Ren'Py My True Desire [v0.2.2] [DTZ Games]

[SymbioticLife]

I think the disappointment comes not from the art itself, but because so many AI games are an absolute mess when it comes to the plot, no direction, no vision, things either happen suddenly without any buildup, or the opposite happens and the game gets stuck on a loop. Games that try to chase many goals at once instead of being focused on what matters for the specific genre (and many of them are nts).

I want to make a scathing remark about peoples attention spans and perception of artistic mediums, but the only thing I will say is that most people have literally no clue what they actually want.

 

[Yyuki73]

oh，is so good

 

[DTZ Games]

Agreed, but then again some of those games somehow end up with 100+ likes and over 4 stars, which just shows both how utterly tasteless and artistically blind a lot of the people on this site are. Good work with your rendering and PS btw, you clearly pay attention to detail. The style itself is not for me but I respect the effort. Only those of use who work with advanced AI tools and photoshop actually know the effort that goes into a given image. You see an image sometimes and you're like "Ah yes, that's this prompt out the box", while other times you can actually see where controlnets or inpaint or photoshop were required. That attention to detail is what I respect in any given AI project. But for the laymen they see a hot image and they have no clue the effort that went in or how generic or easy to replicate the image is, or perhaps they think it's all equally easy.

It's hard to explain to somebody out of the loop that it's much harder to get somebody to knock on a door for example or get a really good kiss (in pony, at least) than it is to get somebody to slobber on a dick in a hundred different ways. Building out entirely custom scenes is a step beyond that, utilizing control nets/inpaint and/or photoshop methods both take considerable time and effort, but again people think you can just prompt for everything and magic happens. And stuff like attractive backgrounds are usually going to require shopping, execept in cases where the lora mix you use happens to make highly attractive, consistent backgrounds.

It’s exactly as you said. And because of this misinformation (thinking it’s just about clicking one button and magic happens) unfortunately, people are creating games with terrible art that doesn’t show much effort. These days, I spend around two hours editing and generating images just to get one that’s satisfactory (My output folder for MTD has 7700 items). By the way, I’ve always loved your artwork on Civitai!

 

[DTZ Games]

I think the disappointment comes not from the art itself, but because so many AI games are an absolute mess when it comes to the plot, no direction, no vision, things either happen suddenly without any buildup, or the opposite happens and the game gets stuck on a loop. Games that try to chase many goals at once instead of being focused on what matters for the specific genre (and many of them are nts).

Actually, it comes from both. I used to be an artist, and nowadays I work in Graphic Design. So in my case, writing, pacing, and narrative are way harder than the overall artwork (artwork is just time consuming). But that's no excuse not to dedicate yourself to producing an engaging and interesting game

Moreover, developers receive a lot of attention and feedback about their work and how it should be. So, of course, for some people (those who lack a clear goal), it’s very easy to lose their way

 

[Cityoftree]

so.. when is the next chapter update?

 

[DTZ Games]

so.. when is the next chapter update?

I'm not sure of the exact date yet, but I think it will be around 25 January (one and a half months after v0.1). After releasing version 0.1, I took some time to review the feedback before diving into v0.2. The year-end holidays might slow things down a bit, but I’ll be back in full force afterward

 

[Cityoftree]

I'm not sure of the exact date yet, but I think it will be around 25 January (one and a half months after v0.1). After releasing version 0.1, I took some time to review the feedback before diving into v0.2. The year-end holidays might slow things down a bit, but I’ll be back in full force afterward

Cool! I can't wait for the next chapter update.

 

[giorgyo777]

great game, you are a huge good guy, keep it up developer!!!
Cool script and character models, I am waiting for the update on the Android platform with great pleasure)))

 

[DTZ Games]

great game, you are a huge good guy, keep it up developer!!!
Cool script and character models, I am waiting for the update on the Android platform with great pleasure)))

Thank you so much! Chapter 02 will also have an Android version

 

[ItsNotUs]

It seems that these devs and similar identical "games"(projects) have a task from their government to instill love for sharing more precisely so that men feel comfortable becoming cuckolds!

Calling yourself artists using AI programs - well, you’re more likely to be programmers, but, ok let's put that aside.
In fact, I must admit that AI gives a wide range of possibilities for creating detailed pictures and interesting colorful scenes! But my question in such threads is one: why is it so difficult to make "normal choices" in the game that will affect the plot? What is the problem with creating multiple paths(NTS, NTR, VANILA)?
The first person who realizes this and does something like this will break the bank!

And so we have similar "games" where supposedly the MC has a strong character, but his girls decide everything for him!
- You like it when i tease you like that, of course, dear - that in the end it will lead to a photo of her broken ass with a huge dick of someone else's man, to which the "Strong MC" will say that: yes, I like it! xd

 

[NeZKyMaN]

The outline of the game looks very cool. I like the additional characters that are presented at the end of the demo version. For now, I can't help but wait for more content because the current one is obviously heavily truncated.

 

[DTZ Games]

The outline of the game looks very cool. I like the additional characters that are presented at the end of the demo version. For now, I can't help but wait for more content because the current one is obviously heavily truncated.

Thank you so much! And yes, Chapter 01 was meant to be an "introduction". As mentioned at the start of the game, the first chapters will take things slow to introduce the characters and establish the game's dynamics. I hope to please the majority!

 

[DTZ Games]

It seems that these devs and similar identical "games"(projects) have a task from their government to instill love for sharing more precisely so that men feel comfortable becoming cuckolds!

Calling yourself artists using AI programs - well, you’re more likely to be programmers, but, ok let's put that aside.
In fact, I must admit that AI gives a wide range of possibilities for creating detailed pictures and interesting colorful scenes! But my question in such threads is one: why is it so difficult to make "normal choices" in the game that will affect the plot? What is the problem with creating multiple paths(NTS, NTR, VANILA)?
The first person who realizes this and does something like this will break the bank!

And so we have similar "games" where supposedly the MC has a strong character, but his girls decide everything for him!
- You like it when i tease you like that, of course, dear - that in the end it will lead to a photo of her broken ass with a huge dick of someone else's man, to which the "Strong MC" will say that: yes, I like it! xd

"Calling yourself artists using AI programs" is, in my opinion, a pretty tedious and complicated discussion. Are 3D artists who use presets considered programmers or artists? After all, they didn't create anything from scratch... Either way, the ultimate goal is to satisfy the player, so there's no reason to stress over it!

And the reason for not creating a game with multiple paths is simple: if I did that, the game would take MUCH longer to release. My goal is to launch an update every 1 or 2 months, not every 5 or 6

 

[ItsNotUs]

"Calling yourself artists using AI programs" is, in my opinion, a pretty tedious and complicated discussion. Are 3D artists who use presets considered programmers or artists? After all, they didn't create anything from scratch... Either way, the ultimate goal is to satisfy the player, so there's no reason to stress over it!

And the reason for not creating a game with multiple paths is simple: if I did that, the game would take MUCH longer to release. My goal is to launch an update every 1 or 2 months, not every 5 or 6

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Everyone says that nonlinearity will add development time! So let's remember almost recently, even the same 3D artists released their games every two to three months with a non-linear plot! What is the problem with AI?

Do you want to argue about what is fashionable to consider an artist and who is not? The one who uses 3D programs or AI that does almost everything for you? Seriously?
Or let's ask the original authors from whom they stole borrowed the style and now "AI artists" can use it, calling it art and their own style!
Can you recreate the model from the spoiler on 3d program?

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[DTZ Games]

Everyone says that nonlinearity will add development time! So let's remember almost recently, even the same 3D artists released their games every two to three months with a non-linear plot! What is the problem with AI?

Do you want to argue about what is fashionable to consider an artist and who is not? The one who uses 3D programs or AI that does almost everything for you? Seriously?
Or let's ask the original authors from whom they stole borrowed the style and now "AI artists" can use it, calling it art and their own style!
Can you recreate the model from the spoiler on 3d program?

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Chill, bro. You didn’t get it. I’m talking about 3D artists who use PRESETS (Koikatsu, UE5, VAM). I was going to write a whole argument, but like I said, it’s boring and won’t change anything, so never mind

Instead, let me say this: I just saw that you create 3D images, congratulations! You have complete freedom to create your own game with multiple choices and updates every two months! I’ll be the first to support you

 

[ItsNotUs]

Chill, bro. You didn’t get it. I’m talking about 3D artists who use PRESETS (Koikatsu, UE5, VAM). I was going to write a whole argument, but like I said, it’s boring and won’t change anything, so never mind

Instead, let me say this: I just saw that you create 3D images, congratulations! You have complete freedom to create your own game with multiple choices and updates every two months! I’ll be the first to support you

I still don’t understand, you have unlimitless tool in your hands to create a unique story, why do you all only have NTS on your mind?

 

[NTR Sommelier]

I still don’t understand, you have unlimitless tool in your hands to create a unique story, why do you all only have NTS on your mind?

Because he wants to. And actually, devs trying to please everyone instead of focusing on what they truly want to create is the primary reason so many projects are going downhill.

 

[DTZ Games]

I still don’t understand, you have unlimitless tool in your hands to create a unique story, why do you all only have NTS on your mind?

I'm just creating a game that I'd like to play.

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There are several games that use AI in other genres. You just have to search!

And please don't be so bitter about life, bro. It's the end of the year, let's enjoy it

 

[quandin]

I feel like a load of nts fans weren't able to draw or commission expensive artists to make their own game so now that they have an opportunity with AI they took it, and the result is as you see

 

[DTZ Games]

I feel like a load of nts fans weren't able to draw or commission expensive artists to make their own game so now that they have an opportunity with AI they took it, and the result is as you see

Actually, it's not just NTS fans! Just like 3DCG, AI is a tool, and people are starting to use it more often. There's a great video called "The story of Rule 34 (YT)" that explains what I mean